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    #7677930 - 11/25/07 01:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know if these are OTC so I apologize cause those are against the rules I believe?

Anyways I'm currently prescribed to Zoloft (although I can't say I'm taking it) for my anxiety disorder. I'm looking for links of reasons for why I should NOT take it. I personally hate Zoloft but I don't have good reasons for it. I heard it causes nuerotoxicity?


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Re: SSRIs [Re: Serdal]
    #7677946 - 11/25/07 01:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think all SSRIs have mild neurotoxicity, or something like that. Someone a while back posted a bunch of links about the dangers of SSRIs I"ll find that real quick.


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Re: SSRIs [Re: Serdal]
    #7677970 - 11/25/07 01:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

How can you hate something if you have no good reason to hate it? :confused:


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Re: SSRIs [Re: beneath]
    #7678009 - 11/25/07 01:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

First of all, I feel you, I have taken zoloft for panic disorder. I was in such bad shape that I just took what the doctor gave me without even thinking about it. Ended up taking it for a year and then weaning off due to it negatively effecting my life. A lot of people are different, it depends on your brain chemistry. You could very well take it, have it help you totally then be able to come off of it no problem. This was not my case, I had problems from the start.

http://psychologytoday.com/articles/pto-20070403-000003.html
That will be the first problem you encounter. Totally changes your brain chemistry. Kills your sex drive and desire to chase around ladies.

This does not only apply to relationships but every aspect of your life. Messing around with the neurotransmitters that effect pleasure is no good.

If you have been taking regularly them you will become Dependant.
http://bipolar.about.com/cs/antidep/a/0207_ssridisc1.htm

Zoloft with its long half life is the worst of the bunch. You will experience about a month of SSRI discontinuation syndrome while it gets out of your system. If you took 50mg like I did expect your hands to shake so bad you cant lift up a glass at dinner without looking like you are on crack, constant dizziness, headaches, feeling down.

I have don't a lot of research on SSRI's PM me if you need to know anything else. I have just about every aspect covered. I can offer you some safer alternatives that have come out on the market recently.


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Re: SSRIs [Re: cosmoline]
    #7678084 - 11/25/07 02:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Kills your sex drive and desire to chase around ladies.




:thumbup: Damn right. I think these pharmaceutical companies are all in bed together (no pun intended).

"Lets give this guy an anti-depressant he really doesn't need, then give him some Viagra to counteract limp dick. Maybe some amphetamines to give him back that lost energy. Maybe some...blah, blah, blah."

It's sad really, and expensive.


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Re: SSRIs [Re: Premedman1]
    #7678094 - 11/25/07 02:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Premedman1 said:
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Kills your sex drive and desire to chase around ladies.




:thumbup: Damn right. I think these pharmaceutical companies are all in bed together (no pun intended).

"Lets give this guy an anti-depressant he really doesn't need, then give him some Viagra to counteract limp dick. Maybe some amphetamines to give him back that lost energy. Maybe some...blah, blah, blah."

It's sad really, and expensive.




You know whats up.


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Re: SSRIs [Re: cosmoline]
    #7678339 - 11/25/07 02:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think medication can be useful in recovery from anxiety, depression or both. But should not be used as the sole form of therapy.

However, the common method of treating an emotional disorder is to prescribe a medication, and turn the patient loose to "see if that helps." It turns out, that the medication only dulls the effects of anxiety, but DOES NOT eliminate it. It can be useful in conjunction to anxiety/depression programs, but should never take the place of therapy or other programs focused on cognitive-behavioral therapy.

Any emotional disorder is NOT caused by chemical imbalances in the brain. This is a misconception that conventional medicine does not recognize--and even some psychiatrists! It is the end result of emotional baggage, cognitive dissonance, beliefs, inaccurate models of reality, expectations, negative self-talk, negative self-concepts, unresolved issues at work, home, from childhood etc. That is why medication will never resolve anxiety.

I used to have general anxiety, panic disorder, and lots of obsessive quirks. I've never taken SSRIs or any medication for my recovery. I recovered by learning about psychology, the nature of personal reality, relationships with others, and a very powerful cognitive-behavioral based program.

If you'd like, I can PM you some of the material I have used to help me get over my anxiety.


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Re: SSRIs [Re: Grylls]
    #7678461 - 11/25/07 03:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Any emotional disorder is NOT caused by chemical imbalances in the brain. This is a misconception that conventional medicine does not recognize--and even some psychiatrists! It is the end result of emotional baggage, cognitive dissonance, beliefs, inaccurate models of reality, expectations, negative self-talk, negative self-concepts, unresolved issues at work, home, from childhood etc.  That is why medication will never resolve anxiety.



Nailed it.:thumbup:


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Re: SSRIs [Re: cosmoline]
    #7678916 - 11/25/07 04:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I haven't been on the medication for a few months and I haven't had any anxiety whatsoever. But everyone else thinks I'm still on it, I want to "get off" the meds or at least stop getting prescribed to them. I like the occasional benzo (for med purposes) but my doc took me off of those.

Thanks for the links, I don't have time to read them at the moment but I'll look at them later.


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