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Offlinezappaisgod
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Re: When To Fight Back? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7687478 - 11/27/07 06:17 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

There are a million stories in the naked city. Some of them are sad ones.

If you have no problem with charging smokers extra, what about fatties? Drunks? Dopers? What level of scrutiny should they be subject to? Do you not understand the civil liberty horror show this opens up?


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OfflineBrAiN
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Re: When To Fight Back? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7687505 - 11/27/07 06:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

True.

Anyway to prove that someone takes on a voluntary bad habit should be used to adjust someone's rates... although it's hard to prove that someone ate 50 mccy d's hamburgers last week.

Sounds implausible? Sure... but I don't think America will ever get on board with Universal Health care so since we're in the hypothetical area I might as well just rant about my pipe dream of a health care system.

Or maybe instead of penalizing people who smoke,drink, eat buckets of spam... we reward the ones who don't meet certain goals.. maybe give them a few extra bucks to cover any deductibles that show up. That way it's still fair and you don't have to deal with the pussy ass ACLU getting up in arms.

Technically that last bit is the exact same as charging people more who don't have bad habits.. but the way I said it in the last paragraph makes it sounds more "marketable".


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Re: When To Fight Back? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7689502 - 11/28/07 08:38 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i was thinkin about this last night and isn't it ironic that when we first started this conversation about health care. z god up there kept making refrences to the poor. its crazy because most of the poor people are covered by medicaid or social security. so actually the workin men are paying the inflated prices on health insurance. im not saying we should have free health care. even in socialized medicine you have to pay higher taxes. i just think these hospitals and HMO are cheating us and the only way this going to stop is for our goverment to regulate it.


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Re: When To Fight Back? [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #7689529 - 11/28/07 08:51 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I suppose, but to a minimal effort. I think once you get the gov't in there making more decisions, it will just get more beaurocratic.

Although for situations where someone feels their company is being shafted out of a procedure they're entitled to... people don't have a lot of money to be paying lawyers to fight these battles that will take months for an operation that is urgently needed. I'm all for having government positions that focus on things like this and any kind of corruption, I feel the gov't just needs to stay out as much as possible.

I think the gov't capable of just about as much corruption through bribery as health insurance companies... but maybe some sort of advocacy group for exceptionsal situations like the one I mentioned before would help.


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Re: When To Fight Back? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7689637 - 11/28/07 09:26 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

the political figures are being paid off thats why its a sore subject.

just another scenario for ya

say you actually are sick what normally happens to you? you can't work... right? so therefore you can't pay ur health insurance cost. so then you normally get on medicaid if there is no money coming into the household. so who pays that? WE DO N OUR TAXES. so who do you think pays for all those dopers, drugies, alcoholics, when they don't work. tax payers.. WE also PAY FOR THE CHILDREN TOO.and we pay for them to have new babies also. so if im paying all that and paying for my own health insurance. im paying double and so are you. plus the doctors and the hospitals screw me because they can profit off of me and not on the gov't.


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