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 Connecting to pets (the loneliness of being owned) 
#767759 - 07/22/02 01:18 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have a pet dog. I used to really love that dog. Her name is Corrie. Don't ask me, I didn't name her. I used to use her as a pillow when I watched the TV. I used her to swallow food, when I didn't eat my greens. Lately she seems to feel disconnected from me. I try to speak but she doesn't understand a word I say. She seems to wag her tail, but only when she wants to act impressed. She has dreams. She yips in the night. She moves her legs. I call her, but she only appears to please. There is a sadness to her smile now. No more excitement. No more chasing the ball for the pure excitement, wonder or exhiliration.
I don't know how to make it better again.
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Re: Connecting to pets (the loneliness of being owned) [Re: Revelation]
#767782 - 07/22/02 01:23 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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How old is Corrie? Maybe she's just going thru menopause or something.
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Re: Connecting to pets (the loneliness of being owned) [Re: Revelation]
#767809 - 07/22/02 01:32 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Humm. how old is your dog?
As for my dog, iam just starting to feel connected with her, she's a 7 year old german shepherd alpha female. Sorry to hear about your dog being more unconnected with you, i used to think my dog was depressed sometimes, maybe she was, i don't know how i would find out. Also you might wanna take her to a vet if you havn't for sometime and ask them if you can find out if she has arthritis or something like that.
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Re: Connecting to pets (the loneliness of being owned) [Re: Revelation]
#767810 - 07/22/02 01:32 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hmm... I have a pet dog myself, who I love very much. When I was younger, she used to sleep in the same bed with me. We used to play together all the time... Either going outside and running around our big yard, or wrestling with each other on the living room floor.
Now, we are both older. I got too big for her to sleep in the same bed with me, and too "busy" to play with her all the time. Then I went away to college for a year. Our relationship definitely changed a lot.
One day I looked at her lying on the floor like she always did, and I was filled with a deep sadness. She seemed lonely and depressed. The look in her eyes just seemed to say "I am old and alone." I decided I wanted to change that.
I got in a really playful mood. I felt like a little kid again! It almost reminded me of an ego-loss experience I have had on mushrooms before where I truly felt what it was like to be a child again. Anyway... I got down on all fours and started playing with her like I used to.
I growled at her and head-butted her, all playfully of course. And she responded! She too, seemed like a puppy again. I picked up one of her old toys (one of those little stuffed chihuahua's from Taco Bell that says "yo quiero taco bell") and we played tug of war for a long time. Then we went outside and ran around together.
Ever since then, she has been paying more attention to me; and I have been doing the same with her. It sounds silly because she is just a dog, but our relationship was really rekindled. I realized a big part for the relationship dwindling in the first place was that as I got older, I stopped paying attention to her like I used to when I was a little kid.
So I guess the only thing I can suggest to you is to try to play with her and give her as much love as you can. Pay more attention to her. Talk to her in ways that a dog can understand. Hopefully it will work for you like it worked for me! Dogs really are man's best friend... I know that's what mine is to me! 
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Re: Connecting to pets (the loneliness of being owned) [Re: Cougheeman]
#767818 - 07/22/02 01:34 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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My dog is a German Shepherd too!
Well, not full-bred, but that is what she mainly looks like.
Her name is Rocket.
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Re: Connecting to pets (the loneliness of being owned) [Re: RebelSteve33]
#767822 - 07/22/02 01:35 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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lol steve that sounds almost kinda like my experiences with my dog, she seemed depressed so i wanted to change that, just started playing alot with her, petting her and she loves massages 
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Re: Connecting to pets (the loneliness of being owned) [Re: Cougheeman]
#767825 - 07/22/02 01:37 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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lol this is funny, i just posted taht and another thing in common... yea she's a pretty big dog, alot of people are afraid of her, but she's all bark.
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Re: Connecting to pets (the loneliness of being owned) [Re: Cougheeman]
#767829 - 07/22/02 01:38 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Haha! My dog loves "tummy rubs" and getting scratched on her butt right near her tail. I love my dog... I'm going to go play with her right now! Haha
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Re: Connecting to pets (the loneliness of being owned) [Re: Cougheeman]
#767836 - 07/22/02 01:42 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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LOL, I think we might have the same dog or something!
Everyone is afraid of my dog when they first see her... But really she is a chicken. She will bark ferociously when someone knocks on the door, but as soon as we open the door she is running away with fright! Haha...
And she hates thunder too... She always goes and hides under my dad's bed whenever a storm comes. She's such a little wimp... Haha.
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Re: Connecting to pets (the loneliness of being owned) [Re: Revelation]
#767848 - 07/22/02 01:48 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Your dog sounds cool Steve. Good thing you brightened up it's life before it's over. Maybe you should play with your dog too Revelation..
I have 4 cats myself..
My cats don't seem to mind being owned except I kind of wonder how they feel when they are wating around for their canned food. They probably want some hot food they just killed themselves.. They have fun outside though..
One of my cats is crippled and can't use her back legs(Some fuck crippled her a while back)... This cat I am specially connected to as she slept next to me for a long time and I am the one who she first became nice too (hissed at everyone)..
She came sat on my stomache the first time I tripped (mushrooms) and another time when I hit ego death she crawled down the stairs dragging her crippled lower body and tail behind her, to come see me again.
The cat likes to make eye contact with me and when I do I sense that we are communicating somehow.
I sense her sadness at some fuck crippling her but she still purrs more then any of my other cats, and is quite happy to sit around taking bong hits with us. The smell of herb attracts her even...
Cats seem to me like creatures of pure ecstasy, being pet to them is probably like a back massage whilst rolling to us....
So what they do not control much of their fate? They live a stoned life just hanging around and such... Dogs too, but somehow more social creatures.. Enough drunken ramblinggg..
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Re: Connecting to pets (the loneliness of being owned) [Re: Revelation]
#767855 - 07/22/02 01:49 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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You may want to go to a vet for a check up. Last winter my cat started acting weird and hiding in the back of closets and behind the toilet. We took her in and they found a tumor the size of my fist in her abdomen. Not to scare you but if your dog is acting funny it might be sick.
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Re: Connecting to pets (the loneliness of being owned) [Re: RebelSteve33]
#767862 - 07/22/02 01:52 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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lol i feel like iam stealing this thread or soemthing, but same here, she is like really afraid of thunder, fireworks, loud sounds, big cats. She's pretty much a wimp, she just likes to scare people off. Ohhh forgot... the vet she hates... whenever i say that word, she like comes right next to me and brushes against me. She's a full bred, parents from germany, name is sonya. 95-100 lb dog btw, she's pretty slim for her weight, but taht's ideal weight since she is so big.
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Edited by Cougheeman (07/22/02 01:53 PM)
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Re: Connecting to pets (the loneliness of being owned) [Re: WildLASER]
#767891 - 07/22/02 02:02 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's really cool about your connection with that one cat... That sucks that someone crippled her though 
My mom lives out in the middle of the woods, and one day this wild cat started hangin' around her house. After a few months of leaving food out for it, the cat (which had been named Bob already b/c they thought it was a bobcat the first time they saw it) eventually came close enough to let people pet him.
He finally got completely used to humans, and now he is the BEST cat I have ever met... He comes when you call his name, and whenever someone goes outside he/she always have to pet him. He has special spots that he likes scratched on his head and chin, and he purrs really loud when someone pets him there.
If you go for a walk in the woods, he usually follows you everywhere you go. He still hunts all his own food in the wild, but he is really sociable with humans too. Sometimes when I spend time with him I feel that "connection" that you spoke of with your cat... When I look in his eyes, he just seems like such a wise, worldly creature. He is really cool.
Okay sorry for filling up this thread with all my pet stories
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Re: Connecting to pets (the loneliness of being owned) [Re: RebelSteve33]
#767987 - 07/22/02 02:34 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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One cat I had, whose name was Guiness, used to troll the street for food. He would get about 6 meals a day. He died in my father's arms. He said he could feel the life draining out of him.
My family has owned 4 dogs. This is the story of all 4.
Jodie. Golden Labrador. Before my time. Did..I can''t rememember but I think she was put down when she got a sore limb..would bark at my older sister. Once launched herself at my sister's face. Vet said she would be better off dead. My father witnessed the lethal injection. Was broken hearted. He loved that dog.
Lady. Border Collie. Grew up with her. Used to bark at our heels when she awoke. A sheep dog at heart. Frighteningly intelligent. She took ill. We took her to the vet to get her teeth cleaned. They operated. They found that she had ovarian cancer. They found that she had hemophilia. She had a puddle of blood in her stomach that would never heal. When they operated, she would never heal. She died on the operating table.
When I got home from school my mother told me. Was the saddest day of my life. I cried all that day. I couldn't understand why she had been taken from us. She was such a beautiful and intelligent creature.
I think she was 12 years old. Not a bad life, for all concerned. If she had ever recieved a "bad cut" she would have died long before.
Next dog: Sam. A violent dog. Used to chase children. Knew nothing but aggression. Was put down. The vet said "Never buy a Collie without consulting me". Apparently they are naturally aggresive, due to their herding nature.
Was put down in the end. At her death, the vet said he was a bad dog.
Got another dog, adopted from a rescued dog group. has a tuft of hair in the back of her head. Probably from where she was hit on the head. Was found walking the streets. She is the most affectionate dog i've ever known. When I was a child, i'd never felt this love from anyone. She is lying behind me in her bed. I used to play with her. Used to feel her energy. No longer. Now she is a pet to me. She wags her tail when I call her name. I don't know why. I loved that dog. I think she may be about 12. Strangers have passed us in the street and said "You can see the good nature shining out of her". And you can. My gran has said "She does everything but speak".
And now she is overweight and weary. She doesn't even recognize me anymore. What has become of her?
I know she will go sometime soon, and I won't know how to take it. It makes me feel bad.
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Re: Connecting to pets (the loneliness of being owned) [Re: Revelation]
#768014 - 07/22/02 02:44 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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When I look into her eyes, she looks away.
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Re: Connecting to pets (the loneliness of being owned) [Re: Revelation]
#768066 - 07/22/02 03:02 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Aww... It sounds like your dog is just getting old, Revelation.
It must be a horrible thing to lose a dog that you've loved... I haven't experienced it yet, and I don't know how I will react when Rocket finally leaves me
You have gone through it once before, though, so at least you know what to expect in a way. I don't know if that will lessen the pain at all though.
All I can say is that it's a natural thing... You should be happy that your dog lived a long life and brought happiness to many people's lives by the love that she exuded.
Perhaps she knows that her time is coming near, and that is why she doesn't react to you the same way that she used to. I've heard of that happening before. You should just try to make her time left here really nice and peaceful. Lay with her and pet her and love her.
I'm sure she knows you love her... She is just getting old. Just be happy for the good life you gave her, and the good life she gave you and others in return
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Re: Connecting to pets (the loneliness of being owned) [Re: Revelation]
#768149 - 07/22/02 03:29 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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"When I look into her eyes, she looks away."
I think almost all dogs do this if iam not mistaken. They don't like direct eye to eye contact. I heard it is what wolves do to see who is more dominant, they stare at each other until one looks away... Correct me if iam wrong..
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Re: Connecting to pets (the loneliness of being owned) [Re: Revelation]
#768304 - 07/22/02 04:18 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Old age... my dog now had 'dreams' (I guess) and kicks and makes grunting noises during sleep. She only lays around and doesnt come as quickly or as often when called. Doesnt get her toy to play anymore on her own.
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Re: Connecting to pets (the loneliness of being owned) [Re: TeKHeAD009]
#768338 - 07/22/02 04:28 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's a sad thing. She's not dead yet, and i'm already thinkng abou how I will feel WHEN she dies..it gets me down, but that's life.
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Re: Connecting to pets (the loneliness of being owned) [Re: Revelation]
#768351 - 07/22/02 04:35 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah... I remember one time when I was younger; I was trying to fall asleep but instead I started thinking about my dog dying for some reason... I couldn't stop thinking about it, and after a while I actually started sobbing... And I mean really SOBBING. It was horrible...
My advice:
Don't think about it too much
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Re: Connecting to pets (the loneliness of being owned) [Re: Revelation]
#768394 - 07/22/02 04:49 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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A dog needs to be around other dogs to be happy, just as humans need to be around other humans to be happy.
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Re: Connecting to pets (the loneliness of being owned) [Re: pattern]
#768412 - 07/22/02 04:56 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think this may be true.
My new cat likes to like Corrie. She purrs around her..rubs against her. But runs when Corrie runs like a maniac towards her . Hey man, slow down. Cats are predictable in a way, sensual, dogs seem to aim to please.
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