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Re: Creative thinking. [Re: budmanman]
    #7677689 - 11/25/07 12:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah and those parts may well be made of smaller particles. What's your point?


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Creative thinking. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7677693 - 11/25/07 12:17 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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fireworks_god said:
Well, to be truthful, we are the sun, but it is simply a question of where you wish to draw an arbitrary line. :wink:

What happens with the energy that flows through your computer's processor? Aspects of reality interact and energy is transferred. Energy interacting with energy. What happens to light that is filtered through the blinds hanging over a window?

"Our" energy is released. :shrug:



well that's what i was saying i was really directing the end of that post toward icelander


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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
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Re: Creative thinking. [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7677719 - 11/25/07 12:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It's released but does not disappear.


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Re: Creative thinking. [Re: Icelander]
    #7677727 - 11/25/07 12:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

we very well could be one of those smaller particles.


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Re: Creative thinking. [Re: budmanman]
    #7677881 - 11/25/07 01:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

How do you figure that?


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Re: Creative thinking. [Re: Icelander]
    #7677916 - 11/25/07 01:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i hope there is a heaven just to spite you all!


(i'm agnostic still)


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Re: Creative thinking. [Re: igwna]
    #7678406 - 11/25/07 02:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i say if there is a "heaven" it's an alternate dimension that your physical body cannot visit.


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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
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Re: Creative thinking. [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7678454 - 11/25/07 03:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I say that only your body can visit it.:doggystyle:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Creative thinking. [Re: Icelander]
    #7678554 - 11/25/07 03:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

energy
The physical capacity for doing work. Nearly all our energy derives from the sun, and technical progress has reflected more and more sophisticated uses of energy, from wind and water, through fossil fuels, to nuclear power.

that is ENERGY. now if you have another definition of energy i would like to hear it. but as far as i can tell, that energy has nothing to do with YOU. i believe that every person is a bunch of neurons connected together in their brain. when you die these neuron firings are done. so any trace of YOU is gone.


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Re: Creative thinking. [Re: evolprim]
    #7678907 - 11/25/07 04:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

so what would you call personality? that just says that we are all just humans with energy, no souls, no nothing? Im not even religious but jesus christ.


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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
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Re: Creative thinking. [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7680289 - 11/26/07 12:11 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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ts727 said:
so what would you call personality?




Personality.


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Re: Creative thinking. [Re: evolprim]
    #7680293 - 11/26/07 12:18 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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i believe that every person is a bunch of neurons connected together in their brain. when you die these neuron firings are done. so any trace of YOU is gone.




I'd suggest to you that the existence of a person isn't bound simply by this physical body. The idea that all trace of a person is gone when they physically die belies the influence their existence has exerted on existence as a whole. We are facilitators of the course of reality. We are cause and effect.

Identity is what you make of it.


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Re: Creative thinking. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7680304 - 11/26/07 12:28 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

if you have kids you never die.

pass your dna on and you will live forever!


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Re: Creative thinking. [Re: igwna]
    #7680315 - 11/26/07 12:33 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Well, if that is what you associate identity with, then I think it is fair to state that only half of you will live forever, and, with each successive generation, progressively less of you will live forever. :smirk:

As the legend goes, Jesus Christ never had children (he was a homosexual), and he's lived for thousands of years now... :hehehe:


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Re: Creative thinking. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7680348 - 11/26/07 12:59 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yeah but the chances of me ever becoming a legend is slim


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Re: Creative thinking. [Re: igwna]
    #7680572 - 11/26/07 04:31 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, but that's probably just due to bad genetics. :smirk:


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:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:


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Re: Creative thinking. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7680587 - 11/26/07 04:37 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

hehe i suppose.

you wanna do something legendary? i'll surely back you. i don't have to be THE legend, part of it is just fine. :cool:


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Re: Creative thinking. [Re: igwna]
    #7680606 - 11/26/07 04:52 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

New England, eh? Are you registered to vote Republican in the primaries? Vote for Ron Paul and your support role in something legendary will be assured. :yesnod:


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Re: Creative thinking. [Re: Droz]
    #7680714 - 11/26/07 06:47 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Droz said:
If you all realize that we are simply being creative in our thoughts and writtings.

Reincarnation, god, heaven, hell. etc. etc. etc.

You do have to realize that these thoughts are mere inventions of the mind. We created reincarnation and god and heaven and hell.

I call these things creative thought. Takes a bit of imagination to believe in such things.

I don't know only if i could explain in more detail.

Add to this please.

Peace,
Droz




We must realize that though our capacity to create is unlimited, we can choose to "create" illusions instead. This is how we can give false belief that sex is like heaven. How could something so temporary and something bound by time be anything at all like heaven?

Anything that decays or is destroyed or withered away by time or space CAN NOT be what heaven is. For heaven to have any meaning it must be eternal.

True creative thinking then, is thinking with the eternal. Anything other then that must be illusion by the definition that it is not true. And how can anything that is not forever lasting be true at all?


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Re: Creative thinking. [Re: budmanman]
    #7680738 - 11/26/07 07:01 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

sorry


Edited by sleepy (11/26/07 07:28 AM)


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