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Noob fruiting chamber questions
    #7677277 - 11/25/07 09:33 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

So, I'm going with the "poor man's pod" fruiting chamber system.
I've got a 65 qt rubbermaid filled about 4 inches with perlite, which is filled about 3 inches with water. under the perlite, i've got 2 bubble wands hooked up to an air pump. I couldnt' see cc per min or liters per hour listed on any of the pumps at the pet store, but assumed that a 3500 was probably a reference to cc per minute.
I hooked it up last night, and can only get the humidity up to about 81%.

It seems there are some air leaks in the lid, so I've applied some weather stripping to prevent leakage, but I don't think that it is doing the trick. This rubbermaid had a kinda elaborate locking latch on each side of the lid, and I think that there are just too many leakage points around it.

Does anyone have any advice?
Is this the wrong size of airpump?
Is perlite not the best for this(maybe geolite or lava rock would be better?
Is my water level too high in the perlite?
Which model of rubbermaid is the preferred kind?
what's the best way to seal the airleaks in the lid(it seems that all of the storage containers will have some airleaks. I bought this one thinking it would be the tightest fitting.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I've used the search engine, and reviewed the faq. Unfortunately, my internet access is quite limited, so I haven't had alot of time to do searches...


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Re: Noob fruiting chamber questions [Re: nicechrisman]
    #7677385 - 11/25/07 10:16 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Hi there,

I'm not a pro but I need to build my fruiting chamber this week so I collected a lot of information on this. For the air pump that is hard to tell, as it's made for aquarium, the only thing writed on the box is the size of the aquarium it can feed. I think the best thing to do is to get a bigger pump so you are sure thatr you don't go below the minimal air exchange rate.
For the perlite i'm pretty sure it's okay to use in that kind of setting, I think geolite is great because it's not messy and you can reuse it over and over.
I saw someone on this board sealing is robbermaid with a one inch layer of foam stuck all over the edge, so when you put the lid on this foam is compressed and make a seal.
An easy and simple way to do it, but less convenient, is just to tape the leaks with a good duct tape so it stick well.

Hope this help

btw what are you fruiting?


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Re: Noob fruiting chamber questions [Re: Bob Gratton]
    #7677515 - 11/25/07 10:55 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

With a bubble stone or wand you want it submerged in water.

As for perlite, giving it a good soaking then letting the excess drained off is what you want. You dont want any standing water in your fruiting chamber (with the exception of a cup of water for the bubblestone).

Small air leaks shouldnt cause a drop in humidity.

Have you got holes in your fruiting chamber?? Air flow around the perlite is important to allow moisture to be wicked into the air.

What kind of humidity gauge do you have and is it calibrated.

Perlite should be able give you atleast 90% rh, and the bubllestones should help push it a further few %.


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Re: Noob fruiting chamber questions [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7677595 - 11/25/07 11:29 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

A lot like the lit sitting loose, no need for weather stripping. FAE is your friend.


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Re: Noob fruiting chamber questions [Re: Civ]
    #7677647 - 11/25/07 11:57 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't suggest using the bubbler under perlite.. perlite is messy when wet like that and is probably so thick that its putting alot of pressure on your pump to push air through. Use your layer of perlite and put the bubbler in a cup of distilled water which will increase your rH in addition to the perlite and just manually mist every now and then.



This seems to do the trick for me with the air stone in the water and keeping the perlite moist.

As for sealing the top, maybe some weather stripping or some of the stripping taken from an old fridge or something?


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Re: Noob fruiting chamber questions [Re: Her0]
    #7677884 - 11/25/07 01:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I ciould have sworn or wrote put the stone in a cup of water


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Re: Noob fruiting chamber questions [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7677962 - 11/25/07 01:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I do have my airstones under water, which is under the perlite. Doesn't seem to be too sloppy, and air seems to be bubbling through.


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Re: Noob fruiting chamber questions [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7677963 - 11/25/07 01:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

if you cant find hydroton use lavarock. four inches of lavarock and 2" or so of water in your pmp.

he's using bubblewands so those have to be in water.


you want leaks in your pmp because that is what makes it automated. that way you dont have to fan the pump gives you your fae. alot of pmp teks ive read they just leave there lids loose to provide the fae.

i have 2 pmp's and i love them. i have two 1 1/2" holes in the lid of my pmp and i leave my lid loose. i have 4" of hydroton in one and 4" of lavarock in the other with 3" of water in both and they both hold rh at 96-97%.
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Re: Noob fruiting chamber questions [Re: blood4blood]
    #7677971 - 11/25/07 01:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

you can get away with using perlite and water in your pmp like you have and it will work fine. but, its just a little bit more of a hassle because i like to change my water and clean my pmp every 2 weeks and that would be a huge problem with messing with perlite.


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Re: Noob fruiting chamber questions [Re: blood4blood]
    #7678632 - 11/25/07 03:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Well, if what you are saying is true, I think my setup should work just fine. I'll have to check it when I get home tonite. Also, it's a cheapo humidity guage that I have.

My bubble wands are under the water, under the perlite.


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Re: Noob fruiting chamber questions [Re: nicechrisman]
    #7681027 - 11/26/07 09:23 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

So, I took the weather stripping off, and made sure the perlite wasn't sitting too heavy on the wands. My room is about 60 deg. and I had enough humidity that there was condensation on the walls, but my guage still says only 82% or so. Can this be? Or is this a bad guage? I guess I should have paid more attention in science class, but I was too busy experimenting with psychedelics(Ironic, no?).

btw my chamber is not heated.


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