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Ever found thes cactu?
    #7676353 - 11/24/07 10:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Ever found thes cactu? [Re: sui]
    #7676488 - 11/25/07 12:00 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Question mark?


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    #7676633 - 11/25/07 01:35 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

wait for it...


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Re: Ever found thes cactu? [Re: PinheadX]
    #7676838 - 11/25/07 03:23 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Cactu photographing Psilocybe caerulescens (= P. caerulescens var. mazatecorum)







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Re: Ever found thes cactu? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7677160 - 11/25/07 08:27 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

hello suimush
psilocybe caerulescens was first describe and found in Mexico in the state of Oaxaca is was first found in Mississippi i guess i don´t remember  well , and  since then many more varieties are describe from this specie some how i can  understand Gaston Guzman about making all this variations and all the other taxonomist, because all share a common ancestor, so far PS carulescens var. mazatecorum is more easy found in the state of Oaxaca in the town of maria Sabina it have that  name because mazateco Indians use it there, so here in jalisco state, in 88´s in zapopan was found psilocybe caerulescens by guzman  , but it said no more about the variety ,  and until now there has not been  register of this specie in the state of jalisco that i know . well i have been in Oaxaca and have found  what  look like psilocybe caerulescens var. mazatecorum by the hand of a mazateca shaman , and i try and pick  by myself  pin and many fruit body's of psilocybe caerulescen var. nigripides in another  location of Oaxaca state this time close to the beach . to bad that i was a perdoker  by those days , and i found the best  thing of earth i did´t even  knew  , well we had a guide  he new and teach me  some thing i was able to see why they say the caerulescens var. nigris or nigripides is the most big , those are  olive green even when pin soon they become totally black  but not by bruising but for  the color they have and are huge and very very caespitosic or in cluster almost all the time this specie only grow in a specific area of Oaxaca at 3000 meter above sea level sometimes .
so far this specie that Alan so kind show in  his picture are in study by Gaston Guzman  hope  workman can give us some feedback soon .
and may be very familiar with PS, caerulescens var.caerulescens .
i´m finding  more location of what i think are ps villarealie  but  new samples send to guzman only said he did not see any resemblance  to ps. villarealie unfortunaly he did not said more , but what else could it be only a cerulescens come in mind to me , and is had been found here  in 88 , so maybe is the return of the caerulescens , who knows. but this other find are more likely in the coordispora section.
it will be  i guess in the cultivation of all the samples and observation in the microscope that we can learn more  and more,and adn studies so far i fell stock, i wanna  know more but i have  my limitations , this make me angry , but i fell great when i see back my perdoker days , now life since so different, but still so unknown. ..-...´- :tongue::grin:


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Re: Ever found thes cactu? [Re: cactu]
    #7678289 - 11/25/07 02:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

ffucking awesome.

dude you rock cactu.


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i´m finding more location of what i think are ps villarealie but new samples send to guzman only said he did not see any resemblance to ps. villarealie unfortunaly he did not said more , but what else could it be only a cerulescens come in mind to me , and is had been found here in 88 , so maybe is the return of the caerulescens , who knows.





so the villirealie might be a var. of carulescens?


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Re: Ever found thes cactu? [Re: sui]
    #7678480 - 11/25/07 03:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

What awesome pictures.


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Re: Ever found thes cactu? [Re: sui]
    #7679095 - 11/25/07 05:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

psilocybe villarealli is not a variety of caerulescens , however if you read a description of some var of caerulescens this easy can fit if you try to id PS. villarealli. for example .
so many macroscopical characteristic, in many mushrooms are some how similar, but more in the caerulescen groups, and PS. villarealli and laurae, and weilii.
here is the discussion Guzman gives in the description of PS villarealae.

Discussion: This fungus belongs to the Section Cordisporae Guzmán (Guzmán, 1983), by the form of the spores and the caerulescent character of basidioma. is safe that presume neurotropic properties, because all the species of this section have them. By the off-white color of basidioma in the adult phase and the slenderness of the same one, resemble to P. caerulescens var. albida R. Heim (Heim ET al., 1965-1966), fungus that was considered like synonymous of P. caerulescens Murrill to var. caerulescens by Guzmán (1983), its ample variability in the color. P. villarrealiae is distinguished of the species of Murrill, by the absence of pleurocistidios in this last one. P. wrightii Guzmán, that is only known the Province of Tucumán, Argentina, is another related species, but difference by the form of its pleurocistidios, which have globoso apex, without filamentous prolongation and with neck of 3-4 µm of thickness (Guzmán, 1983). Compárese with P. laurae with which he is compatible. The name of the species is dedicated like tribute, to Professor Luz Maria Villarreal de Puga, insigne masterful of the University of Guadalajara and by the supports that always have granted to the author in their investigations.
here is the drawing of structures of ps villarealae


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