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#7675868 - 11/24/07 08:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I need some.
I currently work at a bar. It's fun but I can't be doing shit like this when I'm 40. I would like some kind of career. It's not like I need the money....it would just be too embarrasing to be working such a low-level job when I'm older.
I just finished an associate's degree from a technical school. The school was pretty much a scam and I have no interest in pursuing what I went to this school for anyway.
I have enough credits from this technical school and my first foray into the university world (many eons ago) to start in probably the third year of a bachelor's degree program. If I hustled I could get a degree in about 2 years methinks. I was thinking of just getting a general science degree. Basically, I would know math, biology, and chemistry but I wouldn't actually know how to do anything. However, I know a lot of people who got "general" degrees like Liberal Arts, basic science, etc.. and they work as cashiers and shit. I don't want to blow $30,000 on going back to school if it means that I won't be able to get a job.
The thing is....I really don't want to learn anything nor can I think of anything that I want to do. I would totally have to force myself to open my books and learn. I also dread working a lot. I see what happens to people who have careers. All they do is work, get stressed out, gain weight, and it's totally like their lives are over.
I really don't fucking know what to do.
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one thing that will help you out when you do figure out what you want to do, is save money. so many things these days rely on money and having a nice amount on hand will help.
try different things until you find something you like. i tried fast food, retail, landscaping, until i found warehousing. i even thought about going to college for computer programming.
take it one day at a time and never stop looking for a better job, better insurance, and a better girlfriend.
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Whats wrong with being a 40 year old bartender? If this housing market gets much worse I might quit construction and become a bartender! After all, I've got nearly 2 good decades of practice sitting on the other side of the bar.
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It doesn't pay millions of dollars, but have you ever thought of working for a non-profit that you respect? Believing in your workplace can, at the very least, give your daily toils a backbone and a reason.
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Re: Life advice [Re: LayYouIn]
#7675923 - 11/24/07 08:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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The sad thing is I'm so damn spoiled. I get a monthly allowance from a trust fund that allows me to live like I'm "lower middle class" and I don't have to do anything. I also have a certain inherited amount in an account that I can draw upon for whatever I want. If I go to school all of my schooling would be paid for probably and I also would get even more money every month from the trust fund (they'd pay my car insurance, etc..etc..). I'd basically have a free ride.
But, for the life of me I can't motivate myself to do anything. I look at my mom and how she works 60 hours a week and I am aghast. Is that what a career entails...working yourself to death?
I guess I want prestige but I don't want to have to do any work. I want to be able to say, "Yeah, I'm a blah blah" and have that garner respect. But, I don't feel like dragging myself out of bed and actually doing any of the work that would be associated with it.
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ToTheSummit said: Whats wrong with being a 40 year old bartender?
I dunno. It's ok to do a job like that for a while but I couldn't do it for 30 years. I would feel like a loser. My parents were and are so damn successful and here I am a fucking nobody.
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Ah, a trust fund.
That's your problem.
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Re: Life advice [Re: lukeboots]
#7675944 - 11/24/07 08:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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jonnywax said: It doesn't pay millions of dollars, but have you ever thought of working for a non-profit that you respect? Believing in your workplace can, at the very least, give your daily toils a backbone and a reason.
I really don't desire to make a charitable difference in this world. All I see in my fellow humans is selfishness and graft. Expect for my family and friends...I tend to dislike people.
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just start trying new things until you find something you like.
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The one good thing about working at a bar is that you meet alot of new people. Network some and maybe you'll meet someone that has a connection. Just try and get your name out there. Getting a good job right out of college is tough and I know plenty of people that aren't doing what they went to school for because they have to pay the bills and they can't afford to just sit around and look for one.
Being young we still don't know exactly what we want to do, but the one thing I can say is just go where your heart tells you (As cliche as that sounds) The real world sucks but it is what you make it in the long run. Just weigh out your options. Just because you're working in a bar doesn't mean you're going to be there when you're 40...things change but you have to keep an eye out for an opportunity.
If going back to school is what you want just make sure while you're there you're scouting for jobs so you don't have to get the cashier job when you're done. At the same time you do have a degree and do you really want to take out more money? I can tell that you don't want to be the 'typical' American who life becomes repetitive and you're stuck in a job you don't like for 20+ years.
I guess what you really have to do is decide what will be best for you...right now. If you're happy at the bar than stay but if you're tired leave. Don't worry to much about where you're going to be when you're 40 because that'll just have you worrying everyday. Everything will be cool dude
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I don't agree, but alright. I hear ya.
I know a few kids/people with trust funds. They all seem to have the same problem as you. A free ride isn't living. I don't know what to tell you, except that I'm not a fan of your lifestyle. Constantly doing things that don't please you, and complaining at the same time.. it's a waste and you know what you're doing. Find a cure. Something in the world has to matter to you.
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Come be my roommate when I head off to grad school. That doesn't help you with your job problem, but at least we could have some fun.
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RandalFlagg said: The sad thing is I'm so damn spoiled. I get a monthly allowance from a trust fund that allows me to live like I'm "lower middle class" and I don't have to do anything. I also have a certain inherited amount in an account that I can draw upon for whatever I want. If I go to school all of my schooling would be paid for probably and I also would get even more money every month from the trust fund (they'd pay my car insurance, etc..etc..). I'd basically have a free ride.
Free college? Fucking go. Don't make me come over there and smack you upside your trust fund head!
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Re: Life advice [Re: lukeboots]
#7675969 - 11/24/07 08:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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something Ive learned a long time ago when it comes to working in the real world- enjoy your job/ have Fun with it, if your not happy then find something else that will better suit you. Whether its being a bartender, doctor, digging ditches, whatever etc....
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No matter what you do, just try to relax and have some fun. Will working a career make you happy? Who cares about expectations. Just have a good time.
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RandalFlagg said: The sad thing is I'm so damn spoiled. I get a monthly allowance from a trust fund that allows me to live like I'm "lower middle class" and I don't have to do anything. I also have a certain inherited amount in an account that I can draw upon for whatever I want. If I go to school all of my schooling would be paid for probably and I also would get even more money every month from the trust fund (they'd pay my car insurance, etc..etc..). I'd basically have a free ride.
But, for the life of me I can't motivate myself to do anything. I look at my mom and how she works 60 hours a week and I am aghast. Is that what a career entails...working yourself to death?
I guess I want prestige but I don't want to have to do any work. I want to be able to say, "Yeah, I'm a blah blah" and have that garner respect. But, I don't feel like dragging myself out of bed and actually doing any of the work that would be associated with it.
Heh well you need some kind of work ethic unfortunately. I mean yeah it'll be awesome to get this amazing job with an amazing title and making amazing money but you wouldn't enjoy it nearly as much if you didn't work for it a little.
You're lucky that you have access to money and the fact that you want to do something even though you really don't have to is great but you have to find something you really want to do (Something that you actually would WANT to get out of bed in the morning to do) and just go for it. What do you have to lose?
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Re: Life advice [Re: lukeboots]
#7675979 - 11/24/07 08:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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jonnywax said: I don't know what to tell you, except that I'm not a fan of your lifestyle. Constantly doing things that don't please you, and complaining at the same time.. it's a waste and you know what you're doing. Find a cure. Something in the world has to matter to you.
True. I haven't had to work in years and this has made me mentally lazy. I can barely even focus when reading a paragraph anymore. I'm not an idiot, but I'm definately not in top "intellectual shape" at the moment.
I dunno man...it's like nothing is good enough for me. I can't imagine starting at the bottom somewhere and sitting in a cubicle or some shit. I want prestige, renown, and wealth and I don't want to have to work to get it.
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Re: Life advice [Re: cube428]
#7675980 - 11/24/07 08:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Go to Canada, or Russia, and mine asbestos. Now that's a career.
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whatever happened to the out-doorsy career path you were considering?
you know what you should do, since you have all that disposable income? extreme sports. go traveling the world surfing or skydiving or basejumping. or at least the traveling part. maybe you need to get out and see the world a bit to help set you on your path.
also, if you do decide to do those extreme sports, make sure you write me into your will... simply because.
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jonnywax said: I don't know what to tell you, except that I'm not a fan of your lifestyle. Constantly doing things that don't please you, and complaining at the same time.. it's a waste and you know what you're doing. Find a cure. Something in the world has to matter to you.
True. I haven't had to work in years and this has made me mentally lazy. I can barely even focus when reading a paragraph anymore. I'm not an idiot, but I'm definately not in top "intellectual shape" at the moment.
I dunno man...it's like nothing is good enough for me. I can't imagine starting at the bottom somewhere and sitting in a cubicle or some shit. I want prestige, renown, and wealth and I don't want to have to work to get it.
Are you even hearing/reading yourself? Prestige, renown: these are things that are given to people because they are hard workers. What you're telling us makes no sense. You want to be viewed as a hard worker, but you hate the idea of doing any work? It doesn't sound like you know what you want at all. No one, and I mean no one, gets respect for being unproductive.
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" you have to find something you really want to do (Something that you actually would WANT to get out of bed in the morning to do) and just go for it. What do you have to lose? "
Amen 2 that! my thoughts exactly
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Re: Life advice [Re: Redstorm]
#7675995 - 11/24/07 08:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: Come be my roommate when I head off to grad school. That doesn't help you with your job problem, but at least we could have some fun.
We would just probably drink 24/7 and I drink too much as it is. 
Well, if you get accepted to University of Pittsburgh or CMU you would definately have a place to stay. In fact, I'm probably going to get out of this cramped little old duplex I'm in and buy a nice house out in the suburbs in the next year or so.
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Re: Life advice [Re: adrug]
#7675996 - 11/24/07 08:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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adrug said: Free college? Fucking go. Don't make me come over there and smack you upside your trust fund head!
Yeah. Wish I'd had some opportunities like that 20 years ago. Luckily I found a career I enjoy that pays well w/o any schooling. But as I said before, I'm screwed if my industry takes a complete shit. Of course, so are a lot of us!
But I am kinda glad I was never handed anything. It would've made it a lot harder to get motivated and go find my own niche in the world. Necessity is a great motivator. In a way I sympathize with your plight Randall...
...in a way. Now go out and do something you crybaby!
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Re: Life advice [Re: lukeboots]
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jonnywax said: No one, and I mean no one, gets respect for being unproductive.
very true. even cocky asshole has-beens were at one time productive individuals.
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Re: Life advice [Re: MOTH]
#7676003 - 11/24/07 08:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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MOTH said: No matter what you do, just try to relax and have some fun. Will working a career make you happy? Who cares about expectations. Just have a good time.
You see, I'm torn. It is cool to have a blow-off job where you don't have to try but at the same time I feel unfulfilled. But, I am mortified at having to bust my ass at a real job like my mom has had to do. She has worked herself to the bone and her health is failing because of it. I don't want to work that hard. It's not worth it.
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Re: Life advice [Re: adrug]
#7676012 - 11/24/07 08:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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adrug said: Free college? Fucking go. Don't make me come over there and smack you upside your trust fund head!
The only reason I want to go back is to fuck nubile girls and say that I have a piece of paper. I don't actually want to learn anything. And because I don't actually want to learn anything I'm afraid that I'll just drop out...again. I have dropped out of university three times now.
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Maybe you should take a little bit of your money and spend some time in a place where you won't be pampered for awhile. No offense, but you're coming off as kind of a spoiled lazy brat. No women I know go for that.
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what makes you happy ranndal?
If i had money just given to me and i didnt have to do anything. Id be having fun man. Id be traveling the world playing music and hunting mushrooms in in every different country they grow.
Id be making beer, growing pot and putting money into MAPS, or NORML, etc.
Id do stuff that would make me happy. Go on a trip man, spend a couple months in europe maybe take a close friend and just figure out what you want then come back and do it.

and of coure make investments soyou dont run out of cash.
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tiny_rabid_birds said: whatever happened to the out-doorsy career path you were considering?
I applied for a gazillion national park jobs. I applied for everything from being a ranger dude to fighting wildfires in the national forests (which would have been badass). They never got back to me for any of them.
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tiny_rabid_birds said: you know what you should do, since you have all that disposable income? extreme sports. go traveling the world surfing or skydiving or basejumping. or at least the traveling part. maybe you need to get out and see the world a bit to help set you on your path.
The thing is...I'm not wealthy. I only get enough every month to live modestly and occassionally buy a few toys. I could live like a rockstar for a few years but I would quickly deplete my assets if I did so.
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Re: Life advice [Re: adrug]
#7676033 - 11/24/07 08:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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haha, "no offense"
Randall, offense intended: Nobody that I know, male or female, likes a spoiled brat.
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Re: Life advice [Re: adrug]
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adrug said: No offense, but you're coming off as kind of a spoiled lazy brat. No women I know go for that.
Fat women do! 
I know that I'm spoiled and I know that I'm lazy. You'll get no arguments there. I need a kick in the ass. Some type of life-energizing realization or action that injects adrenaline and purpose into me.
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tiny_rabid_birds said: whatever happened to the out-doorsy career path you were considering?
I applied for a gazillion national park jobs. I applied for everything from being a ranger dude to fighting wildfires in the national forests (which would have been badass). They never got back to me for any of them.
Did you follow up on any of them? Call, ask what they're looking for, requirements, if they'd be hiring in the coming months, let them hear your voice?
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Re: Life advice [Re: lukeboots]
#7676046 - 11/24/07 08:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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back-pack through europe DOOOOOOO IT!!!
just stay at hostels and shit.
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Re: Life advice [Re: cube428]
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cube428 said: " you have to find something you really want to do (Something that you actually would WANT to get out of bed in the morning to do)
And I haven't found it. I get bored and discouraged too easily. Every job I've ever seen was incredibly stressful or incredibly repetitive and mind-numbing.
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Let's go to India The Darjeeling Unlimited style. For some reason, India always seemed like a coming of age place.
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RandalFlagg said: I need a kick in the ass. Some type of life-energizing realization or action that injects adrenaline and purpose into me.
Have your parents read this thread. Then they'll cut off the funds and that'll force you into action!
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MOTH said: No matter what you do, just try to relax and have some fun. Will working a career make you happy? Who cares about expectations. Just have a good time.
You see, I'm torn. It is cool to have a blow-off job where you don't have to try but at the same time I feel unfulfilled. But, I am mortified at having to bust my ass at a real job like my mom has had to do. She has worked herself to the bone and her health is failing because of it. I don't want to work that hard. It's not worth it.
Yeah, but seems like your circumstances are different then hers are: you have a trust fund. So I doubt you'll be working half as hard if you manage your money properly. I don't know man; all I know is that I am aimless myself, but I've decided to just accept it and have the best time and the most fun that I possibly can, being around people and expanding my mind my own way. And you know, this way of life is not forever...that's just for now; because I don't know what else to do so I will do what feels best at the moment. Using myself as an example...
Anyway, Randall...just giving my own feedback based on personal experiences. But I would recommend you relax a bit. You're wound up so tight about your status and position in life, and how much you may or may not have to work to get by and live the life you want. Seems like you will feel unfulfilled no matter which course you take. Your mind is just going, and going...Relax and have fun. The most important thing is that you can accept and enjoy life and have a good time, no matter what you are doing. So if you can't figure out what to do right now, don't sweat it; just relax and have fun. Don't force anything on yourself, including your own expectations of how to be. Just do whatever.
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Re: Life advice [Re: lukeboots]
#7676060 - 11/24/07 08:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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jonnywax said: Randall, offense intended: Nobody that I know, male or female, likes a spoiled brat.
Maybe I need to get offended a little.
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You do not need a kick in the ass any more than anyone else that ever lived. You are your only problem. No one is going to hand you a challenge. You are not a mythological hero, and at this stage, if you were, you would fail at the quest given to you. You have the ability to succeed, but no one and no power is going to force it out of you except yourself.
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jonnywax said: Randall, offense intended: Nobody that I know, male or female, likes a spoiled brat.
Maybe I need to go to europe for a few.
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Hey, I was just thinking...did they accidently perform a lobotomy while they were working on the nose?
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ToTheSummit said: Necessity is a great motivator. In a way I sympathize with your plight Randall...
...in a way. Now go out and do something you crybaby!
Man, I wish I could think of something to do. I really do.
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Re: Life advice [Re: sui]
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suimush said: what makes you happy ranndal?
I seriously can't think of anything that would give me fulfillment and such.
I'm sorry for whining and shit. I probably look like a total douchebag.
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" And I haven't found it. I get bored and discouraged too easily. Every job I've ever seen was incredibly stressful or incredibly repetitive and mind-numbing. "
well then I guess Id have to consider myself pretty Damn Lucky then, I went to college for 3yrs trying to get a degree in GIS for surveying and GPS, never graduated because i pretty much fucked off my classes and did drugs......... went back to live with the parents and found a job as a rodman, The lowest position i could be in with little money, but its with good people that I love and I get to be outside all day Long, get stoned given the right time / place, and find all sorts of cool mushrooms come and work with us, lol
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Re: Life advice [Re: Redstorm]
#7676117 - 11/24/07 09:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: Let's go to India The Darjeeling Unlimited style. For some reason, India always seemed like a coming of age place.
I've tried the whole "traveling to find yourself thing". It was definately fun and I'm down to do it anytime but it didn't work to give me any ideas on what to do.
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Re: Life advice [Re: cube428]
#7676122 - 11/24/07 09:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Seems ro me lke you've never had to do anything in your life before because you always knew you had a trust fund to fall back on.
When I was in college, there were plenty of things that I had to do in order to get a degree. Sometimes when you are forced to do things, it forces you to consider paths in life you may not otherwise have chosn.
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RandalFlagg
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Re: Life advice [Re: MOTH]
#7676127 - 11/24/07 09:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Big hugs, M. 
I'll stop whining now. I'm just going to drink a bunch of beer and pass out.
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adrug said: No offense, but you're coming off as kind of a spoiled lazy brat. No women I know go for that.
Fat women do! 
I know that I'm spoiled and I know that I'm lazy. You'll get no arguments there. I need a kick in the ass. Some type of life-energizing realization or action that injects adrenaline and purpose into me.
really, you hate everything you do........
every new job, every new career, youll hate bartending soon enough and then quit, because you dont really need a job atm.
find somthing to do with your life before your cash stash runs out or youre going to be reallllly fucked
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Re: Life advice [Re: Redstorm]
#7676149 - 11/24/07 09:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: Let's go to India The Darjeeling Unlimited style. For some reason, India always seemed like a coming of age place.
that would be so fucking badass. especially if events went down all wes anderson style. i really enjoyed that movie.
on a related note, someone upload that song jason schwartzman's character put on every time a woman entered the room. it's stuck in my head and i want to listen to it.
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Re: Life advice [Re: ZippoZ]
#7676297 - 11/24/07 10:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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" find somthing to do with your life before your cash stash runs out or youre going to be reallllly fucked "
words of wisdom right there bro
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BoneMan
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RandalFlagg said:I want prestige, renown, and wealth and I don't want to have to work to get it.
Wow. Now I understand why people hate trust fund kids so much. You're going to have to find some way to motivate yourself. I think you need to find a hobby, find some passion for something. For instance my hobby is music, and I've grown to love it so much that I can't imagine myself in any career field that doesn't involve music.
If you don't want to put in any hard work you're not going to become good at anything. Whatever it is that is going to gain you renown and prestige, you're going to have to be severely committed to it. Whatever your path is, if you want that much out of it, its going to have to own you. But if you're fine with staying lazy you can probably buy your way through a semi-comfortable, boring and unsatisfactory life with the funds that have been allotted to you.
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Re: Life advice [Re: BoneMan]
#7676454 - 11/24/07 11:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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OK I went and read through the entire thread. I posted my first reply after reading through only the first two pages. Now I see that I've only repeated what others have been saying over and over.
Anyway Randall, from your posts over the last few years I thought you were an OK guy. Now I think you're an OK guy at imminent risk of becoming a douche. An unfulfilled life is one of the worst fates a human being can suffer, what with our outstanding inherent potential. I have been in a similar state of dormancy and fear of exertion that you are in. But its bullshit, you will feel like a million bucks once you start to put some hard work in. You'll feel like you really deserve the beer and the bong after a good hard day of work. And the high will only be the icing on the cake of the buzz you get from being a contributing member of society. I'm not shitting you.
Your fear of work may seem logical but its actually irrational and backwards.
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Re: Life advice [Re: BoneMan]
#7676468 - 11/24/07 11:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i totally agree Bone- very good points u have there
he admits that he needs to change his ways in life........ that he needs this and that...... BUT he doesnt want to fucking do them, Any of them. Im at a loss for words other than GOOD LUCK
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RandalFlagg said: I am mortified at having to bust my ass at a real job like my mom has had to do. She has worked herself to the bone and her health is failing because of it. I don't want to work that hard. It's not worth it.
It's not worth it? you're god damned right! All she did was work to provide for you so you can be a lazy bastard.
Why don't you just provide the funds to someone more worthy and willing to make something of themselves. You can fund a movie and then call yourself the "Executive Producer" ohhhhh ahhhhh.
Good luck on your quest, Randal Hilton.
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Irradiated_Feces said:Randal Hilton.
OHHHHHH no he ditn't!!
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Re: Life advice [Re: BoneMan]
#7676521 - 11/25/07 12:19 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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" You'll feel like you really deserve the beer and the bong after a good hard day of work. And the high will only be the icing on the cake of the buzz you get from being a contributing member of society. I'm not shitting you.
Your fear of work may seem logical but its actually irrational and backwards. "
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Irradiated_Feces said: It's not worth it? you're god damned right! All she did was work to provide for you so you can be a lazy bastard.
My money did not come from her effort; it came from my father's life insurance policy when he died. Any money that I have borrowed from my mother I have paid back.
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Irradiated_Feces said: Good luck on your quest, Randal Hilton.
I think I might have a badly produced night-vision sex video floating around somewhere.
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Re: Life advice [Re: BoneMan]
#7676528 - 11/25/07 12:24 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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You guys are totally right. I have it better than most people and I need to man up and stop complaining.
However, I have a serious problem when it comes to deciding WHAT to do. Should I pursue spirituality? Should I pursue a career? Should I pursue altruism? Should I pursue materialism? I truly have not found anything that I can consistently follow or that I can get any fulfillment out of. I am truly lost and I wish I wasn't.
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go back to school
your first week go to as many different classes as you can (20+)
if you can't find something you like you fail life
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RandalFlagg said: I need some.
I currently work at a bar. It's fun but I can't be doing shit like this when I'm 40. I would like some kind of career. It's not like I need the money....it would just be too embarrasing to be working such a low-level job when I'm older.
I just finished an associate's degree from a technical school. The school was pretty much a scam and I have no interest in pursuing what I went to this school for anyway.
I have enough credits from this technical school and my first foray into the university world (many eons ago) to start in probably the third year of a bachelor's degree program. If I hustled I could get a degree in about 2 years methinks. I was thinking of just getting a general science degree. Basically, I would know math, biology, and chemistry but I wouldn't actually know how to do anything. However, I know a lot of people who got "general" degrees like Liberal Arts, basic science, etc.. and they work as cashiers and shit. I don't want to blow $30,000 on going back to school if it means that I won't be able to get a job.
The thing is....I really don't want to learn anything nor can I think of anything that I want to do. I would totally have to force myself to open my books and learn. I also dread working a lot. I see what happens to people who have careers. All they do is work, get stressed out, gain weight, and it's totally like their lives are over.
I really don't fucking know what to do.
start looking for work in the non profit sector - helping someone / people out as a job is a good way to feel better about life and work in general - most non profits pay so-so, but they dont care so much about your degrees (unless youa re going to be a counselor) but if you find a place and help out - you can do a lot fo good work, and your body/mid will feel cleansed. I recently did this, and it changed my life. However - It may have an unexpected effect - It made me realize I wasn't cut out for work - at all -a nd I have decided to join the ranks of underemployed writers - but thats what I got out of it.
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Randal, I understand what you're saying. You're not looking for money... you're looking for an enjoyable way to make money? With bonus points for being able to impress people with the job title? You could always look into emergency medical tech, or firefighter type jobs. Although those are not jobs to be taken lightly. You kind of have to be all or nothing. LOT of accountability. It's not like working at the store, where you could do an insufficient job and it wouldn't really matter that much. I can't lie. I've always wanted to be able to say "yeah, I'm that guy who rushes to the scene to save your dumbass every time something goes wrong"
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RandalFlagg
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Thanks for the advice everybody. 
I realize it must be tempting to reach through the screen and throttle me. Everybody makes their own way through the world and I just need to find my way.
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RandalFlagg said: I realize it must be tempting to reach through the screen and throttle me.
I wish someone would reach through the screen and throttle me.
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Should I pursue spirituality?
Ewwww
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Should I pursue altruism?
Even more ewwww.
I say go back to school.
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Re: Life advice [Re: Redstorm]
#7677996 - 11/25/07 01:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well....you could always be my sugar daddy....I'm almost certain that job is open......
But seriously, I'm not going to lie to you, working sucks, going to school sucks, doing both at the same time, is killing my life, but I don't have much choice.
I'd like to say if I was in your position I'd still be doing everything that I'm doing, but thats crap, we both know that I wouldn't be, BUT I would be doing something. I think if I had my choice I'd be traveling and maybe writing, or trying to save the world...Randal I don't necessarily like people, but I do feel bad for many of them. I'd definatly work for a charitable cause and thats most likely what I'll be doing next year, despite my degrees. Or if I could I'd look into eco-tourism. I think thats one of the biggest things that I've gotten out of going to school...the realization that there are things I care about and would like to do.
I'm not telling you to go to school, but doing something, anything will make you feel better, and in all honesty, I don't believe you when you say you want the prestige and fame. You don't want that, your a solitary person and you value your privicy too much. Help people, make a difference, even a small one and you will have that fame that you really desire. You'll be important.
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Re: Life advice [Re: Gillette]
#7678001 - 11/25/07 01:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Life advice [Re: Cheezit]
#7678163 - 11/25/07 02:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey man, some people just don't find satisfaction in anything and live unfulfilled lives. You may be one of them.
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:shakes randalflagg:
work is tough, school is tough. if you don't wanna do anything with your life cool, enjoy it. but if you want what you say you want go out there and fucking work for it like everyone else.
find some balance where you can work or study enough to get yourself to where you wanna be, but also have the good times in life. that to me is success
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Re: Life advice [Re: evolprim]
#7678422 - 11/25/07 03:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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or even better get a job or study something you love. then youll never have to work
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Re: Life advice [Re: evolprim]
#7679585 - 11/25/07 07:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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maybe an apprenticeship might be more of a thing you'D be interested in? you'd be making money as you go along, ya leaarn a new skill.
as for what...i dunno man, i'm heading to college next year, and i have more of a problem deciding on what subject i'll focus on. like what do you do in your spare time? see if there'S something at least half related that you could do.
if you just spend all your spare time smoking weed (not judging if you do, i've been there aswell) just take a little recovery period. i usually need like 2 weeks, and once the urges for smoking spliffs are gone, you start thinking clearer and you slowly start to come out of the stage of "oh god wtf have i been doing with myself?!"
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RandalFlagg
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All of the local unions are looking for apprentices actually. But, the union basically owns you for 3-5 years (which I don't like) and I haven't found any field that I would be interested in. If I got bored of electrician shit as quickly as I did then I'd probably get just as bored with iron-working, brick-laying, etc..
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I'm really bored at my job. I'm only doing it to survive and am always looking for something new. I am sticking with it for now becaue I want total independance and that requires me to work a 7-4 schedule. Luckily I listen to mp3 music on my headphones for most of my day and the work is pretty easy.
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