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Pan Elven
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Incomplete jars...need advice.
#7674211 - 11/24/07 11:25 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi this is my first grow and it seems to be going wrong, I need some more help.
My jars have taken around 9 weeks to get to this stage. This has been due to my not understanding that the foil was to be taken off the lids and they slowed right down. I corrected this and they started growing again then stopped. The jars were flipped but this made no difference.
I now have jars that are almost complete but have stopped right before the end. One has started pinning, and another has a lot of blue staining on it.
What do I do now, with these incomplete jars ?
Any suggestions ?
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Pan Elven
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Re: Incomplete jars...need advice. [Re: Pan Elven]
#7674222 - 11/24/07 11:28 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have some pics, but i cant seem to find how to attach them. I have uploaded to shroomery.
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BlargIAmDead
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Re: Incomplete jars...need advice. [Re: Pan Elven]
#7674459 - 11/24/07 12:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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You can crumble and case incomplete jars.
First: To input pictures into a post go up to the little icon above the text box fourth from the left. The one that looks like a little mountain and sun. Then input the URL of the images you uploaded.
Second: If you really want to, birth the jars and separate the non colonized parts with a sterilized knife or crumble them off with sterile gloves. Then crush up the cakes into about marble sized pieces and put into a tub with a casing layer on top. You may want to lay down wax paper, black plastic bag, or saran wrap in the container. A casing layer of 50% vermiculite and 50% peat seems to be good. I've also heard 60/40. What this does is make a non-nutritious blocker layer for contams so they can't get to your sweet sweet cake .
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Pan Elven
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Re: Incomplete jars...need advice. [Re: Pan Elven]
#7674481 - 11/24/07 12:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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OK no amount of trying seems to be able to uploadf my pics.
Basically my jars are complete accept for a 1 inch circle of vermiculite at the centre of the bottom of the jars.
What do I do ?
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BlargIAmDead
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Re: Incomplete jars...need advice. [Re: Pan Elven]
#7674539 - 11/24/07 01:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow. Hmm and you've tipped them over. Well you can birth and then take a sterilized spoon and try to dig that portion out. It could be that it's colonized underneath but not on the surface. Or like I said, you can crumble and case. People estimate it gives you about the same amount of mushrooms. Just a little more work. And nobody can tell you for SURE, this is the thing to do. Think about what you're comfortable doing, what you have the supplies to do or can get the supplies to do, and what feels right. If you feel you should birth them then go ahead. If you want to try to fight off the contams by maybe casing that portion with a layer of vermiculite, rock on. If I tell you "You NEED to birth those cakes and then fruit them as is" and they all fail, then you probably wouldn't be very pleased with me . So do some reading and then forge ahead.
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Re: Incomplete jars...need advice. [Re: BlargIAmDead]
#7674603 - 11/24/07 01:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Birth your jars, and immediately wash them under the faucet. Remove with your fingers any material that will easily flake off, which will be the uncolonized parts. After rinsing, dunk and roll, then place into fruiting conditions. RR
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Re: Incomplete jars...need advice. [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7674614 - 11/24/07 01:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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They will be fine to birth, as RR says, this has happened a couple of times where the substrate was a little too compact. Mine still fruited fine after removing the uncolinised bits.
The blueing is probably them drying out due to being in the jar soo long, dunking them to rehydrate should fix this.
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