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Ingredient amounts?
    #7673920 - 11/24/07 09:01 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Im using the pf tek method. i have pint jars with the sandy verm. each jar has 3/4 cup verm, 1/4 cup brf and 1/4 cup water. Is this the right amount of cakeage?


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Re: Ingredient amounts? [Re: mad genius]
    #7673932 - 11/24/07 09:15 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Its explained in the teks, for half pints so you would use double for each pint.

General the ammounts is 2 parts verm to 1 part brf and 1 part water.

Go look up the various pf teks, they all work fine.


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Re: Ingredient amounts? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7675301 - 11/24/07 05:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

man i got like 3 different answers from teks and vids. can anyone help? After 5 days i see very small signs of mycelium, almost unnoticeable and am wondering if i used enough water.


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Re: Ingredient amounts? [Re: mad genius]
    #7675313 - 11/24/07 05:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

expecting amazing growth after 5 days isn't going to happen, just wait and it will come. what ratio did you use?


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Re: Ingredient amounts? [Re: Chaos Creations]
    #7675324 - 11/24/07 05:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If it looks some what humid in jar but not wet any whee (like tiny puddles of water in a corner) then your good. Any ways you already got it in here no use turning back now XD use it as a lurning experience.


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Re: Ingredient amounts? [Re: Chaos Creations]
    #7675330 - 11/24/07 05:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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expecting amazing growth after 5 days isn't going to happen, just wait and it will come. what ratio did you use?





Check the top of the thread.


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Re: Ingredient amounts? [Re: mad genius]
    #7675527 - 11/24/07 06:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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mad genius said:
3/4 cup verm, 1/4 cup brf and 1/4 cup water. Is this the right amount of cakeage?




That's the recipe I use for 1/2pints, But I use homemade BRF so I add a little more water.


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Re: Ingredient amounts? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7676883 - 11/25/07 04:13 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

3/4 , 1/4, 1/4, is not 2:1:1 which is the "max fruiting formula" on the pf Tek, the extra verm might have made the cakes a bit dry


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Re: Ingredient amounts? [Re: Nibin]
    #7676886 - 11/25/07 04:16 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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3/4 , 1/4, 1/4, is not 2:1:1 which is the "max fruiting formula" on the pf Tek, the extra verm might have made the cakes a bit dry




ive never found field capacity verm to dry a cake before too much brf on the other hand will !


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Re: Ingredient amounts? [Re: grandesign]
    #7677136 - 11/25/07 08:10 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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3/4 , 1/4, 1/4, is not 2:1:1 which is the "max fruiting formula" on the pf Tek, the extra verm might have made the cakes a bit dry




ive never found field capacity verm to dry a cake before too much brf on the other hand will !




Does that mean im ok? I see some mycelium growth, its just taking its sweet ass time. Its been 6 days and all i see is small spots on some of my jars. BTW I got these measurements from the Mushroom Growing Made Easy from High Times, are they wrong?


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Re: Ingredient amounts? [Re: mad genius]
    #7677145 - 11/25/07 08:16 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Ingredient amounts? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7677268 - 11/25/07 09:29 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Having your cakes look a bit dry doesnt mean they willd ry out, i remember someone end up with several cakes that looked dry, along with several others that looked a tad wet.

AT first the wet cakes seemed to start of fast, but the dry cakes ended up colinsiing first.

Verm acts like a sponge, so the less verm you have the less moisture content.

1 cup verm to 1/2 brf and 1/2 water per 1/2 pint should give plenty of moisture for colinisation, u will be dunking to rehydrate anyway.

I find that its best to add a little less water than recomended, rather than add it all and find its a little too much. The verm i have seems to result in a slightly sticky mixture so i use a little less.

Watch the videos, they should you everything in great detail. You will find threw doing several sets what works best for you.

The pf tek is really simple, theres not much to go wrong.


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PF TEK - writeup by EvilMushroom666
Lets Grow Mushrooms - RogerRabbit & RoadKills website with sample videos plus the full PF TEK video series. Alot of great information - BUY THE DVD
Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong
Franks Simple Coir/Verm Tek
Franks Proper Pasturisation Tek
Franks Spawning To Bulk - Monotub
Professor Pinheads RTV Injection Port Tek
Foo Mans No Soak WBS Prep Tek


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Re: Ingredient amounts? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7677470 - 11/25/07 10:40 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Oh believe me ive seen those videos about 10 times each, but when i did the actual mixing i was going by the Mushroom Growing Made Easy instructions and in the video it said 3/4 Verm, 1/4 BRF and 1/4 Water. I guess time will tell.


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Re: Ingredient amounts? [Re: mad genius]
    #7677483 - 11/25/07 10:43 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

There's lots of mistakes in that video, including that recipe. Use verm at twice the amount of the brf and water, not three times which would make the mix too dry.
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Re: Ingredient amounts? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7677491 - 11/25/07 10:46 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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veda_sticks said: i remember someone end up with several cakes that looked dry, along with several others that looked a tad wet.

AT first the wet cakes seemed to start of fast, but the dry cakes ended up colinsiing first 




I remember it well my first grow i always make them dryer now now im using lc i make them with a little extra brf, as the lc will colonise faster i add a little extra nutrients, im just experimenting at the moment though  :thumbup:


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Re: Ingredient amounts? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7677492 - 11/25/07 10:47 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Is there a way to moisten them up? And if so, how much longer should i wait before i do so. The growth is extremely slow and almost unnoticeable after 6 days.


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Re: Ingredient amounts? [Re: mad genius]
    #7677506 - 11/25/07 10:52 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i would let them be at the moment, if you start adding water you risk exposing your grow to contamination your best off being patient , in the mean time why dont you occupy your mind making a lc, or another grow following the tek closely ?


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Re: Ingredient amounts? [Re: grandesign]
    #7678511 - 11/25/07 03:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

well we have solid growth. nice little chunks of mycelium poppin up. maybe the poor jars will be ok.


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