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#7673891 - 11/24/07 08:48 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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So I'm getting a new laptop, 2.0ghz core 2 duo, 512mb Nvidia 8600GT in SLI, 2GB ram. But it comes with Vista.
I've heard a lot of bad things about Vista.. mostly that is hogs a lot more resources then XP. Anyone here have any experience with Vista vs XP and can comment? Specifically for high end gaming like UT3, Quake Wars, WoW, etc. Would I be better off installing XP?
I don't mind doing a lot of tweaks if I can get good performance out of Vista.. although I'd prefer to avoid as many headaches as possible and XP has been reliable for me for many years. but what would be better?
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Shroomism]
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i'd have to go with xp for the gaming... im not sure but i think vista isnt even compatible with some older games out.
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Shroomism]
#7673969 - 11/24/07 09:28 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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My new laptop has Vista, and I'd much rather it have XP. There really aren't that many features that make vista any better imo, and I'm used to using xp. Familiarity is the main reason I'd rather have xp though.
Edit: And yeah, vista is kinda laggy sometimes but I don't know if it would be any different with XP as I havn't installed it on here yet, but I can play Guild Wars with decent graphics settings without any lag.
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Shroomism]
#7673975 - 11/24/07 09:30 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Got Vista on the laptop, it's bloody awful.
Go for XP. Especially for those games.
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I like Vista, but yeah - it really needs fast computer with lots of memory to handle it properly.
If all you want is to play video games, then XP will do nicely, with lots of memory too. I think 2 GB is sufficient for this. Some games have issues with Vista, so for you, XP is the way to go.
Make sure you have the original installation disks for everything that was installed on your laptop before you start erasing stuff or formatting drives.
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Shroomism]
#7675900 - 11/24/07 08:09 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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you computer will run vista without a hassle. i installed vista ultimate on my pc (1.66 core 2 duo and 2gigs ram) and it ran perfectly. i actually liked vista very much, it looked pretty and had a lot of features that i liked (especially the search feature, it's awesome on vista). but i hated the UAC bitching constantly so i disabled it and everything was cool.
i wouldn't know much about how games will be affected but i would think that with your rig vista or xp wouldn't make much of a difference, but then again i'm not really a gamer. i never installed any games on vista.
right now i'm dual booting XP MCE and Kubuntu gutsy, but i'm thinking of wiping out my hard driva and dual booting vista ultimate and some kind of linux distro.
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: maggotz]
#7675927 - 11/24/07 08:15 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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i havnt had any problems at all with vista and am very happy with it, however if you like games, go for xp, especially with SP3 coming out soon, taking many elements from vista.
definitely go for xp if you have any doubts.
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: nobhdy]
#7676178 - 11/24/07 09:28 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Question about installing XP and deleting Vista if I choose to go that route.. I've read a few things about people having major problems getting XP to install on a machine with vista especially in regards to it recognizing SATA hard drives. What steps should I take in advance to prepare for such problems to make installation of XP as pain free as possible?
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Shroomism]
#7676848 - 11/25/07 03:32 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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> What steps should I take in advance
Make certain that you have drivers for all your hardware. Nothing sucks worse than needing an ethernet driver to get online, but needing to get online to download the ethernet driver.
The biggest problem I have seen is Microsoft strong arming hardware manufacturers into not releasing XP drivers for their new hardware; especially on laptops. Often, you simply cannot find XP compatible drivers for computers that carry the vista ready logo.
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Seuss]
#7677065 - 11/25/07 07:24 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Indeed.. that's what I was reading about.. stupid microsoft  Most people seem to be able to get XP installed with all the proper drivers but not without much difficulties.
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Shroomism]
#7677124 - 11/25/07 08:02 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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i had no problems doing it.
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: maggotz]
#7677219 - 11/25/07 09:08 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well that's a relief.. hopefully it's the same case for me.
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Shroomism]
#7677234 - 11/25/07 09:14 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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i installed xp on a friends vista laptop, and i could find working drivers for everything other than the onboard wireless. My buddy didn't care as his gas line mapping device was only compatible with xp...so we just got a wireless pcmcia card and installed that, and it was good as new...i haven't checked if they have come out with a xp driver for the onboard yet....
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: supra]
#7677243 - 11/25/07 09:18 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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What you need is Mac OSX Leopard. It takes a big steaming shit on any of the windows OS.
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: maggotz]
#7677565 - 11/25/07 11:16 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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If your gonna be playing new videogames, go with vista your videocard is a directx 10 card.
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Shroomism]
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Vista is friggin horrible man. My dad has it on his system with a quad core extreme edition and 4GB of RAM. It runs slower than my laptop with a single 1.8GHz core and 1GB. I highly recommend replacing it with XP. If your laptop has SATA drives you'll need to provide the drivers for the SATA controller during setup. If your laptop has a floppy drive, no problem. Press F5 when prompted and load them off a disk. Otherwise you'll need to make a custom install CD with the drivers already included. That's pretty easy using nLite. As far as I know the only worthwhile DX10 card for laptops is the brand new GeForce 8700M and unless you have one of those you won't be missing anything by going with XP. Even if you do have one, DX10 support isn't a good enough reason to run Vista IMHO. I think the only games that require DX10 are Halo 2 and Shadowrun, and both of those are easily cracked to run on XP and DX9.
Also XP SP3 is coming out in 2008 and it should breathe new life into the OS. I think XP should be good well into the next decade, after which Ubuntu will be ready to take over.
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Ythan]
#7678234 - 11/25/07 02:32 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ythan said: Vista is friggin horrible man.
Sadly, this is true ... I have Vista 64-bit because it has security that XP doesn't have. I still need to maintain XP for things which just won't work under Vista. Give it another year before Microsoft figures out what they are doing ...
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Ythan]
#7679198 - 11/25/07 06:14 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, I have no need for DX10.. the games I play don't even use it anyway. I did already download nlite, just a little confused as to how to make a custom install CD with it. Gonna have to do some more reading. Like should I put the drivers on a separate disc or somehow include them on the windows install disc with nlite? Is there a way I can download all the right drivers before my laptop even gets here? This is the system I got btw -http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834114399
Nevermind I'm dumb.. found the drivers. Toshiba has like 5 drivers listed for XP for that model
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Shroomism]
#7679239 - 11/25/07 06:27 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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vista is honestly just shit
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: vampirism]
#7679264 - 11/25/07 06:36 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah that's pretty much established.. now I'm just hunting down drivers for XP and trying to figure out how this nlite shit works.
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Shroomism]
#7679853 - 11/25/07 08:51 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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well, it seems like your laptop is gonna be pimpin, particularly the 512mb nvidia 8600gt (is that discrete memory or shared?) - i can tell you flat up that virtually all on board graphics card are absolute trash in Vista (particularly w/ WoW) but that seems really hot man and I'd say it's worth a shot trying out Vista. Are you asking because you have the opportunity to downgrade now to XP and save money, or do you have your own copy of XP that you can put on should Vista not fit the bill? vista will use up more of your resources but it seems like you're gonna have plenty of resources to play around w/... i'd try out Vista, am running it myself on a quad core and it runs absolutely flawless w/ wow and oblivion w/ myriads of other programs running, though those are the only games i play.
either way, gratz on the laptop, /jealous kek
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Seuss]
#7679898 - 11/25/07 09:05 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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> What steps should I take in advance
Make certain that you have drivers for all your hardware. Nothing sucks worse than needing an ethernet driver to get online, but needing to get online to download the ethernet driver.
The biggest problem I have seen is Microsoft strong arming hardware manufacturers into not releasing XP drivers for their new hardware; especially on laptops. Often, you simply cannot find XP compatible drivers for computers that carry the vista ready logo.
truly! have dealt w/ that one in the past on more than one occasion w/ onboard ethernet and graphics drivers particularly. go to the laptop's website and type in the model #, if they don't offer xp drivers at least write down the names of all the drivers/look in your control panel/system/device manager and write em down and try searching for the drivers on google or places like nvidia, my last several boards sound have been realtek for example and i know they have a website.... burn all of that to a cd. g'luck man.
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It's DUAL (2x) NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT in SLi.
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512MB GDDR3 discrete graphics memory, plus up to 255MB dynamically allocated shared graphics memory using NVIDIA TurboCache technology.
So 767mb of potential memory. Yeah it will be pimpin.
I have an XP disc that I can use.. but I am seriously dreading using Vista based on all the bad shit I've heard about it. Like, I know it will RUN my games.. but I am always after the top performance, especially since I like to run everything on the highest video settings and often use fraps to record shit while playing.. that cuts down frame rates by a lot. I will give Vista a try.. since it comes pre-installed.. but if Vista is hogging resources then it's getting the boot with the quickness.
But I am having a hell of a time finding the right XP drivers though.. especially the SATA drivers. I'm like going in endless loops and clusterfucks looking for this shit.. ugh. This is confusing as fuck. I'm hoping someone on this laptop forum will just send me all the right drivers.
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Shroomism]
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yeah, for a laptop that is down right sick. heh, ya know, whatever the thinker thinks the prover proves, ya might not like vista... i tend to dislike pre-installed OSes, tend to have lots of extra BS software loaded bogging em down, so i'd clean out all the junk you never intend to use, looking at the active processes in the task manager would help. but, can't deny the appeal of the clean install you'd get out of your xp disc.
have never used fraps but have been amused by the notion of frapsing some naked arenas and sending lol@yous to the realm forums, heh.
hmmm, i really can't imagine that XP won't detect your hard drive... can you list its specifics? maybe i can poke around a little for you.
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Ythan]
#7680517 - 11/26/07 03:28 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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> I think the only games that require DX10 are Halo 2 and Shadowrun, and both of those are easily cracked to run on XP and DX9.
Halo 2 is produced by Microsoft, and Shadowrun is produced by... Microsoft (FASA Interactive was purchased by Microsoft in 1999). Funny how the only games that require DX10 are owned by Microsoft and can be hacked to use DX9. This shows that Microsoft is actively using their other markets to try and force consumers in their monopoly to purchase newer products.
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I don't have the laptop yet so I don't know all the exact specifics like the mobo and chipset and all that jazz. This is the model though - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834114399
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Ythan]
#7680919 - 11/26/07 08:48 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I never had to install drivers for my SATA drives, neither under linux or windows 2000 (xp is pretty much the same, just looks nicer).
Ditch Vista, unless you like being fucked over.
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Ythan]
#7680924 - 11/26/07 08:49 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you're not running linux, a good way of finding out what hardware your system has is AIDA32
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Shroomism]
#7681392 - 11/26/07 11:11 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have a gateway...the xp drivers simply aren't available through gateway support website. After searching around, I found everything, but I cannot get/find the audio driver for XP. 
Fuckers
eh. I'm dual booted right now, Ubuntu/Vista. Audio only works in Vista.
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Boom]
#7681781 - 11/26/07 01:03 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Boom said: I have a gateway...the xp drivers simply aren't available through gateway support website. After searching around, I found everything, but I cannot get/find the audio driver for XP. 
Fuckers
eh. I'm dual booted right now, Ubuntu/Vista. Audio only works in Vista.
Which sound card does your comp have, and do you need drivers for Windows or Linux?
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Ok, this is about to drive me insane.
I've gone through about 10 wasted CDs by making various slipstream installl discs and none of them have worked. I've spent a ton of time downloading the proper XP drivers.. and only on the last disc I made was I able to get past the "Setup did not find any hard disk drives installed in your computer" message. Well great.. awesome.. I got past that finally with the right drivers. But then got plastered with a new one:
"Setup could not read the CD you inserted, or the CD is not a valid Windows CD".
Fuck. So I'm down to my last disc. And I'm not sure what the hell I'm doing wrong. I pulled all the files directly off a Windows XP SP2 disc, included most? of the security fixes, and just used nlite to slip in all the drivers I need. But damn this is frustrating.
I hate Vista BTW. It's all Eye Candy bullshit. It's a MAJOR resource hog. Shit is slow as hell booting up and shutting down. Sometimes programs stall and take forever to load, which is inexcusable on a brand new machine with these specs. What a piece of shit OS.
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Shroomism]
#7695187 - 11/29/07 03:05 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok so I just downloaded XP pro corporate SP2 by Etho... supposedly with all the patches integrated and whatnot. Slipstreaming all my drivers in it now... down to my last disc... hopefully this works
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Shroomism]
#7695620 - 11/29/07 04:51 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: wilshire]
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He bought a gaming rig
Linux is not a good choice for that
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Boom]
#7696713 - 11/29/07 08:31 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Woot.. got XP running smooth 
Now just need a video driver.. laptopvideo2go.com is down
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Boom]
#7697799 - 11/30/07 07:26 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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whoops! should have read.
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: wilshire]
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Vista sucks.
I work in IT, and deal with it everyday.
Trying to downgrade toshiba laptops is a PITA. They don't support xp drivers on newer models.
and Vista is a Memory hoggie!
(anybody heard of Microsoft Surface?)
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Ythan]
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Damn if only! But who has that much money to spend on that?
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andyistic said: Damn if only! But who has that much money to spend on that?

I'm about to have another try installing XP back on my laptop. I don't "hate" vista, but it doesn't feel like the machine it should be
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Boom]
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Boom said: I'm about to have another try installing XP back on my laptop. I don't "hate" vista, but it doesn't feel like the machine it should be
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So it's taken me about a week and a half... 4 or 5 complete reinstalls.. a bunch of blue screens of death..and about 100 drivers later.. and I finally have XP running, updated, and all tweaked out. I have to say... the performance I'm getting out of XP compared to Vista is about three times better, literally.
Vista can go suck it. Maybe in 2 years when they have it running somewhat decently I'll think about switching, but for me now XP is the shit.
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Ythan]
#7712816 - 12/03/07 08:46 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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"it's a big-ass table."
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: maggotz]
#7713354 - 12/03/07 10:39 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have Vista Ultimate 64bit right now, works fine... Before that I had Win XP Pro 64bit.
I have 2 gigs of ram, 250 gig hd, intel 2 duo 2.4 gighertz, evga 8800 gts 640mb. Gonna get 6 more gigs of ram, 3 250 gig hds for raid, and another 8800 gta 640mb. Rock out with 1.28 gigs of vid memory. Chyea bitches.
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downforpot said: I have Vista Ultimate 64bit right now, works fine... Before that I had Win XP Pro 64bit.
I have 2 gigs of ram, 250 gig hd, intel 2 duo 2.4 gighertz, evga 8800 gts 640mb. Gonna get 6 more gigs of ram, 3 250 gig hds for raid, and another 8800 gta 640mb. Rock out with 1.28 gigs of vid memory. Chyea bitches.
Do you have an SLI motherboard? My motherboard is for Crossfire, but I'm not a big fan of ATI.
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Shroomism]
#7713912 - 12/04/07 03:13 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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So it's taken me about a week and a half... 4 or 5 complete reinstalls.. a bunch of blue screens of death..and about 100 drivers later.. and I finally have XP running, updated, and all tweaked out.
On the plus side, you learned a lot about your system from the experience. When XP breaks (which is always does), you will be much better positioned to figure out what is wrong and fix it.
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I have to say... the performance I'm getting out of XP compared to Vista is about three times better, literally.
Yep... and Linux is faster yet, though there is less software available. Vista has to check your hardware some 30+ times a second to ensure that you aren't doing anything bad, as defined by the recording industry.
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Seuss]
#7714120 - 12/04/07 06:58 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Vista has to check your hardware some 30+ times a second to ensure that you aren't doing anything bad, as defined by the recording industry.
i didn't know that. good thing i no longer have it installed. 
hey man, what linux version are you using? i want to try another linux distro to be my definitive one. i've only tried ubuntu and kubuntu but i was thinking of trying linux mint and maybe pc linux os. what do you think about those?
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: maggotz]
#7714268 - 12/04/07 08:12 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yea the new Ubuntu version is honestly kind of buggy. Ive been less then impressed by it. Im thinking of installing a different distro and waiting until the ubuntu 8 comes out in a year or so. So we are in the same boat, and this is what Im thinking
Suse sounds reasonable as it uses the fedora .rpm package system which is nice, also its KDE looks really good especially with version 4
Gentoo, I was thinking it might be time to finally try out Gentoo as I think I have enough linux experience to deal with it, but Im not sure if I want to bother
Besides those two I was considering Fedora, which Ive used plenty, seemed like a reasonable distribution. I guess those are really the only 3 that Ive been considering.
By the way has anyone here tried out the Window manager Enlightenment? Im running it on my ubuntu at the moment, its quite strange and a bit hard to use at first. Im not sure I dig it, but its certainly a difference from Gnome and KDE. I run the latest e17-cvs files so it can be a bit buggy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlightenment_%28window_manager%29
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: TheCow]
#7714291 - 12/04/07 08:22 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah, i installed ubuntu gutsy, after having fesity for a couple of months, and it wasn't what i expected. configuring it wasn't as smooth as it had been with feisty. so i installed, kubuntu gutsy and it went smooth.
but i'm new to the linux world so i need stuff for newbies.
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: maggotz]
#7714641 - 12/04/07 10:14 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I use pclinuxos at the moment and im liking it, more so than ubuntu actually...
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downforpot said: I have Vista Ultimate 64bit right now, works fine... Before that I had Win XP Pro 64bit.
I have 2 gigs of ram, 250 gig hd, intel 2 duo 2.4 gighertz, evga 8800 gts 640mb. Gonna get 6 more gigs of ram, 3 250 gig hds for raid, and another 8800 gta 640mb. Rock out with 1.28 gigs of vid memory. Chyea bitches.
Do you have an SLI motherboard? My motherboard is for Crossfire, but I'm not a big fan of ATI.
Of course, I wouldn't be able to get another vid card if it wasn't.
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I just upgraded from Ubuntu's Gutsy to Hardy and decided to try out KDE recently. So far KDE seems to be more elegant and advanced than Gnome, but it's taking some time to get use to it.
Fortunately, we're allowed to use either-or within the Unix environment - and switch anytime we want! Without losing access to either our preferred programs or our documents. That's the beauty of Unix/Linux IMO.
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Re: Vista vs XP [Re: Hoggy]
#9006597 - 09/30/08 03:27 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, I run stock KDE 3.5 and I prefer it to Gnome.
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I'm also using kde, ive used gnome, xfce, and kde, out of them, I like kde for most applications, and xfce for my old laptop, but it doesn't work anymore...ive also tried fluxbox and thought it was pretty cool, if your a minimal type person, its great...its also funny to see people come up to your comp and have no idea how to use it, since it is just a blank screen...lol
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