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strangladesh
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Mushrooms for other industries
#7672351 - 11/23/07 08:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok i love growing mushrooms, but to make enough money to support my family growing edibles just doesn't seem feasible. Are there any other mushrooms out the that have substances or chemicals in them that are in high demand and fetch a high price. Like growing mushrooms for pharmaceutical companies or manufacturing industries..
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Re: Mushrooms for other industries [Re: strangladesh]
#7672382 - 11/23/07 08:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nope, mushrooms are not a commodity. We're still waiting for our George Washington Carver.
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Re: Mushrooms for other industries [Re: YidakiMan]
#7673286 - 11/24/07 01:51 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Doesn't ergot produce something used in a headache medicine??
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Cordyceps brings a few thousand dollars a pound. RR
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Re: Mushrooms for other industries [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7675012 - 11/24/07 03:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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why arnt more companies growing them?
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Re: Mushrooms for other industries [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7675043 - 11/24/07 03:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: Cordyceps brings a few thousand dollars a pound. RR
I need to start growing cordyceps
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Re: Mushrooms for other industries [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7675939 - 11/24/07 08:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: Cordyceps brings a few thousand dollars a pound. RR
If anyone been watch that new series on the discovery channel called blue planet you would have seen these in the jungle episode. They show many beautiful mushroom shots on that episode. I didnt think they were edible however. They said that when an ant colony finds one infected with the parasite, they carry it off to die. This way the colony is not in danger.

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Ive seen this, very cool time lapsed video...But how do you mass produce these?
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Re: Mushrooms for other industries [Re: strangladesh]
#7676346 - 11/24/07 10:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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CureCat said: Cloning sounds like a fantastic idea. You should probably preserve whatever remains of the fruiting body, since the clone will doubtfully fruit in absence of the insect host.
Good shit.
It would probally be a hell of a challenge to mass produce these.
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They grow the mycelium, not the fruiting body. Getting a culture is the hardest part. You can't buy one at any cost that I've found. You have to find one in the wild and get a clone or spores. Here's mine. I'm using cricket agar to attempt to propagate it. RR
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Re: Mushrooms for other industries [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7676683 - 11/25/07 02:00 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Mushrooms for other industries [Re: budmanman]
#7677028 - 11/25/07 06:50 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Were did you find that @....
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Re: Mushrooms for other industries [Re: strangladesh]
#7677207 - 11/25/07 09:03 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Did a quick search for Cordyceps. Amazing stuff. RR, very interesting culture. Is there a specific species?
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Re: Mushrooms for other industries [Re: LoWgRoW]
#7677214 - 11/25/07 09:07 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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The one above appears to be Cordyceps militaris. RR
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Interisting information on commercial production [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7677517 - 11/25/07 10:56 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Interisting information on commercial production [Re: TheChosenOne]
#7679780 - 11/25/07 08:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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> They said that when an ant colony finds one infected with the parasite, they carry it off to die. This way the colony is not in danger.
It gets even better than that - Some types of ants post guards at the enterence to the nest who smell each ant going in. Any ant that smells like cordyceps spores gets his head chopped off.
> I'm using cricket agar to attempt to propagate it.
Does it refuse to grow on regular agar?
How do you make cricket agar, is it basically a thick cricket soup?
> You can't buy one at any cost that I've found.
Once I get my hands on a viable culture I will give it away for free in the marketplace forum. I know some people have them, but they are trying to use them to get rich which precludes sharing. Aloha medicinals claims to do all sorts of secret stuff to the grain jars, but I am skeptical.
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Re: Interisting information on commercial production [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#7680547 - 11/26/07 04:11 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think RR said in his other cordyceps thread that he got like twenty cricket blended them and mixed with reg agar-agar. Interesting idea. RR isn't some cordyceps very particular to the insect host? What was the host on the original? It looks alot like a yellow jacket but I don't know.
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strangladesh
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Re: Interisting information on commercial production [Re: japa2222]
#7680904 - 11/26/07 08:33 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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RR why haven't you made you millions yet....mabey its time to give me a shot at it...
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Re: Interisting information on commercial production [Re: strangladesh]
#7681037 - 11/26/07 09:24 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Once I get my hands on a viable culture I will give it away for free in the marketplace forum. I know some people have them, but they are trying to use them to get rich which precludes sharing
Which is exactly why I won't give mine away. I'm now several thousand dollars into DNA testing just to determine the various species I'm isolating. Cordyceps has many anamorphs, which make it very hard and expensive to cultivate. It has a 'green mold' conidial stage which further complicates matters.
Those who spend their hard earned cash and time to isolate strains should be compensated. I've broken several bones climbing mountains in search of rare species, and mrs rabbit is laid up right now with a broken leg as a result of a terrible fall during a mountain top foray two weeks ago. Why should we just give our work away? Think about it. The grocery store doesn't give us free food, and Jeep didn't give us our mountain vehicle for free either. Nobody paid us to train our bodies to climb 4K to 5K vertical feet and back in one short winter day either. We've worked very hard for what we have. RR
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