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    #7671963 - 11/23/07 08:59 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Cap: dingy white to tan. smooth to cracked. convex to uplifted and wavy. 1.5-6 cm.
Stem: thick and sturdy, fibrous. whitelines twisting up with red undertones.
Gills: close, brown to black.
Spore print: black
Habitat: wood chips scattered over compact soil with tufts of wild grass. Not fertilized.
Bruising: none


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Re: Panaeolus... [Re: scout24]
    #7674129 - 11/24/07 12:46 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Definitely not pans. Look quite Psathyrella-ish


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Re: Panaeolus... [Re: therev]
    #7674137 - 11/24/07 12:51 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

well some do look like psathyrella but some other as paneolus as in picture 1,2 ,3 ,4 and the last one , but really not familiar with those.


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Re: Panaeolus... [Re: scout24]
    #7674470 - 11/24/07 02:47 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I'd say good guess. Interesting.


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Re: Panaeolus... [Re: LouiseLouise]
    #7674728 - 11/24/07 04:21 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Well they have a lot of characteristics of panaeolus but i could not tell you what it was without looking at the spore prints.


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Re: Panaeolus... [Re: therev]
    #7675352 - 11/24/07 07:38 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Definitely not pans.




Why do you say that?


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Re: Panaeolus... [Re: scout24]
    #7675461 - 11/24/07 08:16 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i dont think he knows. they look like pans to me, not subbs or foes, which are the only two i can identify further than that.


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Re: Panaeolus... [Re: haymaker]
    #7675510 - 11/24/07 08:28 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i agree those are paneolus some did you print all or some , the moted gill could rule out any psathyrella in site.
do you think some manure have benn apply there or compost maybe last year. some like in picture 5 have a cluster grow as in psathyrella did you look at this one to see some diferencens in the gills ?.
i get to se some species in pastures as in the 3 first pictures.
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Re: Panaeolus... [Re: cactu]
    #7675564 - 11/24/07 08:46 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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i agree those are paneolus some did you print all or some , the moted gill could rule out any psathyrella in site.
do you think some manure have benn apply there or compost maybe last year. some like in picture 5 have a cluster grow as in psathyrella did you look at this one to see some diferencens in the gills ?.
i get to se some species in pastures as in the 3 first pictures.
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I printed some - all of which were black.  I am confident they are all the same species of Panaeolus.  The cluster does look a bit odd in the picture - but I'm almost positive I confirmed they were Pans. 

I can't rule out manure at the site, but it's very unlikely.  :shrug:

Anyways, I thought they looked cool.  Setting aside color, habitat and size - they looked like the beefy subbs I see around these parts.


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Re: Panaeolus... [Re: scout24]
    #7675573 - 11/24/07 08:47 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

they would be the wierdest subs iv ever seen if they were.

black spore print would fit though...


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Re: Panaeolus... [Re: haymaker]
    #7675578 - 11/24/07 08:49 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

that was meant to be a joke btw.. rereading it makes it seem very serious :smile:


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Re: Panaeolus... [Re: haymaker]
    #7675582 - 11/24/07 08:50 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

there are not subb are only paneolus inactive ones , that as scout mentioned may be some how coomond over there , i wonder why don´t to many say they look this specie.or just to lazy
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Re: Panaeolus... [Re: haymaker]
    #7675583 - 11/24/07 08:51 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I wish subbs were beefy like these.  :mushroom2:


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Re: Panaeolus... [Re: cactu]
    #7675585 - 11/24/07 08:53 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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i  wonder  why don´t to many say they look  this specie.or just to lazy




Shhhhh.

Seriously, people are missing out.  :shrug:


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Re: Panaeolus... [Re: scout24]
    #7675592 - 11/24/07 08:54 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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i  wonder  why don´t to many say they look  this specie.or just to lazy




Shhhhh.

Seriously, people are missing out.  :shrug:




??? i dont understand this at all. am i missing something obvious here?


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Re: Panaeolus... [Re: haymaker]
    #7675613 - 11/24/07 08:59 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

haha. We are referring to active pans, besides copelandia.


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Re: Panaeolus... [Re: scout24]
    #7675629 - 11/24/07 09:05 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

oh ok, thanks for clearing that one up. i was only aware of subbalteatus!

i think ill go a-searching :wink:


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Re: Panaeolus... [Re: haymaker]
    #7675700 - 11/24/07 09:26 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Really, I was talking about subbalteatus. Subbs are generally divided between hay/dung and grass habitats. I'm only familiar with the latter, and I've noticed many shapes and two types of grass subbs.

If you're into splitting hairs then you probably take offense to labeling all these mushrooms subbs. But simply speaking, they are all subbs.


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