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OfflineMaron
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I did something really bad and forgot that it happened
    #7671852 - 11/23/07 06:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I had Thai mushrooms with my best friend and another friend. For 2 hours I had lots of fun (a lot of weird things happened), but I can't remember anything that happened after those 2 hours. this is what happened and what I don't remember at all: I was laying on my bed with my best friend and I started to kiss him (I don't even like him in that way, so it doesn't make sense), but he didn't want me to kiss him, so he pushed me away, but I didn't stop, so he went to the couch and my other friend sat next to me, and we started kissing, hugging and doing more things. My best friend told us to stop, but we didn't listen. He said he's looked in my eyes and he didn't recognize the 'normal' me at all and he got really scared. I never ever wanted this to happen, and I don't understand why I did it, as I never wanted to do anything physical with both of my friends. The thing is, I've got some (private) issues with sex, and I don't like being touched by people at all and having sex normally just scares me a lot. Why did I want to do this then, and why don't I remember?

I feel really bad, because my best friend is very upset because of this, and he even doesn't want to see me anymore.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Maron]
    #7671869 - 11/23/07 06:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

you shouldnt feel bad about it

you were on drugs


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Maron]
    #7671918 - 11/23/07 06:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Dont be around boys when your on mushrooms? apparently it makes you horny and slutty.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: sirbojangles]
    #7671921 - 11/23/07 06:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Agreed mushies are a mind altering substance and should be treated as such :laugh:


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Maron]
    #7671996 - 11/23/07 07:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Really, your best friend needs to be more understanding and get over it.

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Why did I want to do this then, and why don't I remember?




The reason seems pretty simple to me. You normally have these private issues, right? Well, the shrooms put you into a totally different state, and then you probably were in a very comfortable place. Since all your usual baggage was left behind, your normally repressed sensuality came bursting forth. As to why you don't remember... you probably just really surprised yourself and could only deal with the emotions by repressing them.

This isn't to say that (esp. when sober) you have actual deeper feelings for either of your friends. You probably do care for them, and this was just a matter of your feelings gettin intermingled.

Actually, if these are true friends, they should be happy you were able to shake off some of that baggage and open up briefly, not condemn you for it.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: AnotherDimension]
    #7672271 - 11/23/07 07:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Are you a guy? lol.. I don't really have any advice that is fuckin weird. Maybe your body is trying to tell you that you're gay and you don't know, unless you're a girl? I know if I kissed one of my friends they would beat my ass, and I would do the same whether we were tripping hard or not.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Maron]
    #7672433 - 11/23/07 08:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

one of the effects of mushrooms is increase sexual arousal. Also maybe you were trying to get over your personal sexual problems. The reason you forgot was because you repressed the memories. It caused you some form of anxiety so your ego tried to repress the memories in attempt to releave the anxiety(Look up Freud's theory on ego defense mechanisms if your confused) This usually ends up doing the opposite ironically, so its a good thing you remembered it.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Maron]
    #7672574 - 11/23/07 09:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Maron said:
I had Thai mushrooms with my best friend and another friend. For 2 hours I had lots of fun (a lot of weird things happened), but I can't remember anything that happened after those 2 hours. this is what happened and what I don't remember at all: I was laying on my bed with my best friend and I started to kiss him (I don't even like him in that way, so it doesn't make sense), but he didn't want me to kiss him, so he pushed me away, but I didn't stop, so he went to the couch and my other friend sat next to me, and we started kissing, hugging and doing more things. My best friend told us to stop, but we didn't listen. He said he's looked in my eyes and he didn't recognize the 'normal' me at all and he got really scared. I never ever wanted this to happen, and I don't understand why I did it, as I never wanted to do anything physical with both of my friends. The thing is, I've got some (private) issues with sex, and I don't like being touched by people at all and having sex normally just scares me a lot. Why did I want to do this then, and why don't I remember?

I feel really bad, because my best friend is very upset because of this, and he even doesn't want to see me anymore.




I've seen this kind of thing happen before, group tripping can really cause some damage if one or two people lose control, however your case seems pretty mild. The first time my friend of 15 years tried acid (ONE dose), he came on to me, I have never thought he was gay or ever thought that he was attracted to me so it was really bizarre, I had to politely tell him "no" a few times and it didn't really upset him but after the trip he sure was weirded out. He was also claiming that he was an alien and no one knew the secret until now...sometimes people just go nuts.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7672626 - 11/23/07 09:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Are you a guy? lol.. I don't really have any advice that is fuckin weird. Maybe your body is trying to tell you that you're gay and you don't know, unless you're a girl? I know if I kissed one of my friends they would beat my ass, and I would do the same whether we were tripping hard or not.




Oh yeah, good call. I kind of assumed OP was a girl, but I guess the friends reactions make more sense if OP was a guy. Then I can see why the best friend is just totally freaked. Yeah, this is definitely going to be a lot harder for OP to work through if all involved are guys. Also, I thought Maron sounded like a girl's name, but I looked it up and it is a guy's name.

Good luck with that.


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    #7672750 - 11/23/07 10:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7672755 - 11/23/07 10:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

same fucking thing i was thinking. LMFAO. i bet your other friend is freaking out just as much. :rofl2:


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened *DELETED* [Re: emilbus]
    #7672772 - 11/23/07 10:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: acommunistspy]
    #7672778 - 11/23/07 10:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

thanks


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: emilbus]
    #7672881 - 11/23/07 11:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I don't understand why shrooms would make you do that, I've never seen anything like that. But w/e shit happens.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: acommunistspy]
    #7672960 - 11/23/07 11:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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oh man. you have just instilled a deep fear in me for my next trip... lately, i've been questioning my sexuality (girls turn me on but i fear i might be 'bi-curious'). what if this happens to me? it would be the end of my social life!!!




If you don't mind me asking, why are you questioning your sexuality? Is it that guys also turn you on a little, or do girls not turn you on as much as you think they should? I'm just curious you don't have to answer


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7672997 - 11/23/07 11:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It sounds like he digs chicks, but the has also experienced sexual feelings from the male form?
I dunno.. Thats my take on it. :shrug:


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Great Scott]
    #7673028 - 11/24/07 12:18 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i hope your not a guy.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: MindGorilla]
    #7673057 - 11/24/07 12:32 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I hope your not a gorilla.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Maron]
    #7673158 - 11/24/07 01:06 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Maron said:
I feel really bad, because my best friend is very upset because of this, and he even doesn't want to see me anymore.




Explain to him that you were under the influence of a drug that was more powerful than you thought it would be. You can tell him that it wasn't really "you" at the time. If he tried shrooms himself, maybe he would understand better.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7673203 - 11/24/07 01:22 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Honestly, if your friend is that upset and refuses to hang out with you, even after you explain how the shrooms were potentially freeing you of emotional baggage on top of sexual arousal being a common effect, then he is no friend of yours.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Ness1]
    #7673285 - 11/24/07 01:50 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I hate to try and one up this guy but dont worry i have seen MUCH MUCH worse. I was doing shrooms with two friends when one starts rubbing his nipples and moaning his best friends name. He then pees himself puts his face in his own urine licks it and pulls off his pants. He and my other friend were afraid to touch him so i called another friend to come. When she got there he was naked jerking off still moaning this kids name. He stuck a toothbrush up his ass, pulled down a shower cutain and tried to shave is balls all in this kids living room. We were so afraid. We couldnt do anything. The worst part is the story was good the our whole highschool and all the neighboring ones know. I have had kids at parties i have never met tell me this story without knowing i was there. I am sure whatever happened to you sucks right now but just be thankful it wasnt this bad.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: laxisfun]
    #7673324 - 11/24/07 02:02 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not a guy....I'm a girl. (I didn't even know Maron could be a guys name ). Thanks for all the advice anyway!


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Maron]
    #7673328 - 11/24/07 02:04 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Well that's good


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: laxisfun]
    #7673360 - 11/24/07 02:16 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I hate to try and one up this guy but dont worry i have seen MUCH MUCH worse. I was doing shrooms with two friends when one starts rubbing his nipples and moaning his best friends name. He then pees himself puts his face in his own urine licks it and pulls off his pants. He and my other friend were afraid to touch him so i called another friend to come. When she got there he was naked jerking off still moaning this kids name. He stuck a toothbrush up his ass, pulled down a shower cutain and tried to shave is balls all in this kids living room. We were so afraid. We couldnt do anything. The worst part is the story was good the our whole highschool and all the neighboring ones know. I have had kids at parties i have never met tell me this story without knowing i was there. I am sure whatever happened to you sucks right now but just be thankful it wasnt this bad.




and wow! that is really bad. did he remember all the things he did, and why he did it? Did it affect your friendship in any way?


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Maron]
    #7673383 - 11/24/07 02:27 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Jeepers, I'm glad I've only shroomed with people I know can keep their shit together. I'd hate to have an experience like that.

And yes, I've heard anecdotal reports shrooms can bring out some really insane sexual freakouts, yours doesn't sound so bad by comparison Maron. People get drunk and do that kind of stuff all the time. I hope your friends understand what happened and don't hold it against you.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Maron]
    #7674038 - 11/24/07 09:58 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm not a guy....I'm a girl. (I didn't even know Maron could be a guys name ). Thanks for all the advice anyway!




Sorry, I didn't know and just went off of what this told me: Maron

But, I agree, definitely a girl's name in my opinion.

Anyway, then as originally said, your friends need to get over it, and hopefully you can explain things to them in a way that can make it easier for them to understand.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7674055 - 11/24/07 10:08 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Doesn't really sound like too big of a deal to me... It seems like something that is probably fairly commonplace. I know that when I trip I tend to feel very sexual/sensual, and various boundaries and rules constructed by my psyche are eroded (not just in a sexual way, but in a big ultimate universal way). As someone before me said, you care for your friends deeply. When mushrooms strip you of preconcieved roles and templates for behavior it seems only natural that something like this might happen with people you care for and/or love.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Maron]
    #7674135 - 11/24/07 10:49 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I must be the most anti-sexual tripper, because my penis might as well be detached from my body once I eat those little hongos. The only thing I'd use it for is urination until I'm sober again.

From what I understand, my reaction is NOT normal. Your reaction IS normal. Most people get all sexified in their pants when they shroom.

You're fine. Sounds to me like your friends are prudes.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened *DELETED* [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7674165 - 11/24/07 11:01 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: acommunistspy]
    #7674776 - 11/24/07 02:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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acommunistspy said:
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Caribou_Lou said:
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acommunistspy said:
oh man. you have just instilled a deep fear in me for my next trip... lately, i've been questioning my sexuality (girls turn me on but i fear i might be 'bi-curious'). what if this happens to me? it would be the end of my social life!!!




If you don't mind me asking, why are you questioning your sexuality? Is it that guys also turn you on a little, or do girls not turn you on as much as you think they should? I'm just curious you don't have to answer




yea regularly girls turn me on as much as they should. but however, there's a few times where i've felt a twitch for a guy. not much but it was definitely there. it was usually for people i knew also.


does it matter though, it's human nature to be turned on my another human, some people haven't been conditioned to have a boundary with gender, and some have but might still have feelings that didn't go away from the conditioning of the media, schools, and people, which makes them feel it is wrong...why do you care if a male turns you on?


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: sk8cracka]
    #7676442 - 11/24/07 11:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Don't take this the wrong way, but your probably gay. Or at least Bi. Mushrooms get rid of societal perception sometimes. It seems pretty obvious to me that you met part of yourself you either didn't know or or don't want to acknowledge.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: budsmoke]
    #7676458 - 11/24/07 11:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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budsmoke said:
Don't take this the wrong way, but your probably gay. Or at least Bi.




Did you not see this part?

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Maron said:
I'm not a guy....I'm a girl. (I didn't even know Maron could be a guys name ). Thanks for all the advice anyway!




Of course, if you were referring to someone other than Maron, then nevermind. :smirk:


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Maron]
    #7677143 - 11/25/07 08:15 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

you should do a CIRCLE JERK with ur little tea-time friends and get your issues out so that your pretty boy friends can get to know you for what you are?


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: sk8cracka]
    #7677156 - 11/25/07 08:25 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

sk8cracka said...



does it matter though, it's human nature to be turned on my another human, some people haven't been conditioned to have a boundary with gender, and some have but might still have feelings that didn't go away from the conditioning of the media, schools, and people, which makes them feel it is wrong...why do you care if a male turns you on?




Well said. I think that all humans are bisexual but with the obvious propensity towards the opposite sex for biological reasons. I know its more complex than that, but it can stir up some thought.

You notice that whenever society goes through a "sexual revolution" that bisexuality and free sex are usually the undertow?
The word 'revolution' is rooted with the meaning(revolutio) "a turn around" (thanks Wikipedia)
So, the idea of anything that revolves or turns around is (re)cycling to its bases or origin. Its original intention. If human society is cyclical, then we are always experiencing extremity with no lulls. During the sexual revolution we didn't reach an extreme awakening of any sort. We just recycled old ideas. Thats what we do. We are human.

Maron, I think that mind altering substances could be a gateway for discovering your "private issues" with sex. Find the right people to help you through these things. True, understanding friends that is. Its tough to find these people in real life. Some will go an entire lifetime without finding these people in their life.
If its not real life people who you want to share your self with, at least this forum and the relative anonymity that it provides is a great first step. Give yourself a chance to examine yourself.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: implee]
    #7678437 - 11/25/07 03:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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implee said:
Dont be around boys when your on mushrooms? apparently it makes you horny and slutty.




LMAO

yeah, drugs make you do weird shit. Then the next morning when your friends are fucking with you all the weird shit you did is even worse.


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    #7678595 - 11/25/07 03:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

im 100% sure that i would not want to fuck a guy or be fucked by a guy. there is nothing that would turn me on about any of that.


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    #7678730 - 11/25/07 04:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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im 100% sure that i would not want to fuck a guy or be fucked by a guy. there is nothing that would turn me on about any of that.




Thanks for clearing that up.  :wink:


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    #7679103 - 11/25/07 05:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I must be the most anti-sexual tripper, because my penis might as well be detached from my body once I eat those little hongos. The only thing I'd use it for is urination until I'm sober again.

From what I understand, my reaction is NOT normal. Your reaction IS normal. Most people get all sexified in their pants when they shroom.




Nah, no worries, I tend to react like that also. Not sure why, but sometimes I almost feel as if I have too important other things to think about than sex.

And to the people discussing sexuality--

Some research has linked a gene to sexuality, but I would personally say that this does NOT mean that "if person A has gene X, he/she is hetero-/homosexual, and for gene Y, he/she is homo-/hetero-."

Instead it means that "if a person has such a gene X, then he/she is 50% more likely to have a 50% higher affinity for hetero-/homosexual desires."
Or something along those lines.

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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Querjek]
    #7679813 - 11/25/07 08:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think the mushrooms shook up your issues with sexuality, and now you have to deal with it.

I would apologize to your friends and tell them what happened, then maybe think deeper into the meaning of it.


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    #7679834 - 11/25/07 08:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I am sexually attracted to the opposite sex.  The thought has crossed my mind a few times whilst tripping.  I could see myself kiss a guy but nothing further.  Woman are where its at :mattz:


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    #7679888 - 11/25/07 09:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Maron]
    #7680095 - 11/25/07 10:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

obviously there has to be more to the story

was there some sort of issue that existed prior to the trip?


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Tangerines]
    #7680267 - 11/26/07 12:00 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I've made out with gay men at raves. What can I say, lowered inhibitions and all, and I was curious. After having tried it, I can say it's really not my bag. Thank you, rave culture.

Shrooms make me feel like I love everyone in the universe equally, which is to say a lot... it never made me want to fuck my friends, though. :smirk:


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    #7680392 - 11/26/07 01:24 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Sex is much different than physical affection like kissing, hugging, touching, etc.

I don't see it as a big deal in regard to your friend, though it is obviously a big deal for your psyche since it repressed it so quickly - think about it and possibly like the other poster said use mushrooms to figure this out about yourself.

As for the other poster who is afraid of being attracted to guys - you are fearful, why? of being a social outcast? would you rather be a strong self-identified social outcast or have friends but secretly want to screw them?

Furthermore, there is no problem with seeing members of the same sex as being attractive; because they are! it seems like it's ok for girls to say "Ohh she is so beautiful!" but guys are so afraid to say another man is handsome. You're not gay just because you realize the true beauty of another human being.


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    #7680531 - 11/26/07 03:44 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

mushrooms are gay.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Merkin]
    #7680732 - 11/26/07 06:58 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i thought this when i was younger. because of my uncle i knew a lot of older guys from the 60's and 70's and they all use to go on and on about mushrooms. out of all these older hippies, 6, 2 of them were gay, one was a pedophile (hes in prison now, thank god), one was bisexual, and the other 2 were straight but really, really weird. my uncle was off too and man did he like younger chicks. I'm talking like 14-15. I'm not saying its right but at least it was younger boys. oh that guy who is in prison, he took more mushrooms then all of them. i dunno just kinda threw me off.


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    #7680824 - 11/26/07 07:51 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think there's a dose-response reaction when it comes to mushrooms and having sex with children, but maybe thats just me.


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    #7680828 - 11/26/07 07:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i know, i just found it a little off.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: sirbojangles]
    #7680858 - 11/26/07 08:12 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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obviously there has to be more to the story

was there some sort of issue that existed prior to the trip?




After the trip my best friend (let's call him Kevin, to make it easy) left before we could talk to eachother, so then my other friend ("Tom") explained what happened. I sent an email to Kevin and told him I didn't remember what happened, but that Tom told me I started to kiss and hug Tom and that I hoped he hadn't noticed, because I felt really bad about this. Tom also told me he used his hand to make me come, but I stopped him before I came (I don't know why, he just told me I made him stop). All the while Kevin was in the same room and heard it all.

Kevin emailed back to me that there had been a time he'd been in love with me (he never told me and I never noticed it. We've been best friends since we've met and always had great times). When we had drugs and were laying next to eachother on my bed, his feelings of love came back, and at a time I started to kiss him (Tom didn't remember this either), he didn't want that at all, because of the state we were in and because he knew I wasn't myself at that time, so he pushed me away and switched places with Tom. When I started to kiss with Tom, Kevin felt really guilty, because he knew the "real" me wouldn't want to do that at all and he tried to stop me, but apparently I reacted very irritated. Kevin said right then his feelings for me just disappeared immediately and that he wished his trip would stop and that he could leave.


So for Kevin this is all very emotional, because he apparently likes me more than I ever knew and I guess that he still has those feelings for me (although he said that he didn't have those feelings anymore). For him it must be very confusing, so I guess that's why he doesn't want to contact me, so he can figure things out for himself.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Maron]
    #7681034 - 11/26/07 09:24 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

He was trying to do the right thing and you end up replacing him with his friend. He is definently gonna be mad but you were on shrooms so he'll get over it and is probably still interested I would guess.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: wstarc5]
    #7681083 - 11/26/07 09:34 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Probably it wouldn't have mattered at all who was next to me. I just started kissing randomly I guess. Maybe I would have kissed a complete stranger as well. But as I don't remember, it's just hypothetically speaking. The one thing I do know is that I didn't want to kiss Kevin, and I didn't want to kiss and do the things I did with Tom at all.


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    #7681088 - 11/26/07 09:36 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I can pretty much guarantee he still has feelings for you.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Maron]
    #7681094 - 11/26/07 09:36 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

And thats why you don't trip with strangers.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Maron]
    #7681098 - 11/26/07 09:37 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

both kevin and tom are retarded.  :3some:


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Maron]
    #7681134 - 11/26/07 09:44 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Ha! He just learned that trying to be "the nice guy" is a big mistake. Maybe he's over you, maybe not. My guess is not. He's probably gonna act like a jerk for a while because he's upset, and then he'll probably act like a jerk in a really fake way to be the "bad boy" he thinks you want him to be. Man, this sounds so high school it's ridiculous!

My theory: Kevin's probably gay and doesn't know it yet. That's not to say he doesn't have strong feelings for you - he obviously does. But he's way confused. He thinks he's in love with a girl right now, but he's gonna like boys later. Just a theory, not necessarily truth.


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    #7681159 - 11/26/07 09:56 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Well it is definently highschool.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Maron]
    #7681194 - 11/26/07 10:06 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Whatever happens, don't be embarrassed and be honest with yourself about why it could have happened.

You might want to look some more into the "not remembering" part because no matter what drugs you are on, engaging in sexual behavior without being fully conscious of it (or being able to admit to yourself the extent to which you were conscious of it) is trouble. You are lucky that these guys were your friends and didn't take advantage of you or hurt you.

I'm not judging you in any way but you said that you have issues relating to sexuality and then you blank out a sexual experience while you are on drugs--it might be a good idea to talk to a therapist of some sort if there's any danger of this becoming a pattern or being repeated.

What you want to avoid is getting into a cycle of being afraid of sexual situations and thus not taking responsibility for your own sexuality, then maybe you're getting high or drunk and putting yourself in risky situations where you are not in control/not responsible for your own actions, etc.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Maron]
    #7681373 - 11/26/07 11:06 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

if i was in "kevin's" place...

and ive been in similar situations

...it would have been pretty traumatizing

having friends of the opposite sex is a tricky and emotionally confusing situation

its a shame, really

but time is always the best medicine

ive gotten through all the shit ive been through with my incredibly adorable and amazing female friends

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    #7681799 - 11/26/07 01:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think mushrooms have a strong psychic effects on the trippers. I know because me and my good friend did an eight of mushrooms with one of his friends, and it was her first time. I think we were both mildly attracted to her sexually, and during the trip our desire for her become very real, but not because of us, but because she started to get really horny and started stripping, suggested a three-way right then and there (we were in a public park) and then jumped into the river half naked. She had paranoid delusions after that. I think both of our desires combined with her sexual frustration (she also had "sex" issues, since her last boyfriend took advantage of her while she was drunk). She ended up screaming for hours until cops came over, and took her to the hospital. She claims she doesn't remember ANY OF IT, so I find your story very similar. I will also add that when she took off her top the energy around us got extremely primal, as if we were pure instinct at that point, very very weird. We could also "predict" the waves of screaming and nonsense a few moments before they happened because the energy around us would get tenser and tenser.


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    #7681890 - 11/26/07 01:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'm sure the mushrooms just made you curious, and at the time it didn't matter who was there. There's a lot of girls I would only touch if I was fucked up.. I was like best friends with this girl for awhile and I never wanted to do anything with her, until I was drunk as hell and then we had sex and never talked again HAHA. :lol:


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    #7682366 - 11/26/07 03:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yikes, such homophobia, its disgusting....
anyway, hope things work out, maybe stay away from psychedellics, or boys for a while?


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: DreamSignals]
    #7682564 - 11/26/07 04:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Highschool or not, for me it's a problem.
To a certain extent, I'm glad I can't remember, because I'd be really upset about the things I've done with Tom. (Now I know I did them, but I don't "feel" it, if you know what I mean).

when I told a friend of mine about the trip and everything that happened, she said: "You should trip with someone you like! Because apparently when you trip, you get sexually aroused and you should try to learn from this and try to enjoy it instead of pushing it away."

I don't think learning to enjoy sex while being drunk/high/on drugs etc, is the best way though. I guess it can make things more fun, because you let go of all the things in your mind, and feel the "feelings" of your body better, but if I can only enjoy while being in on drugs, that's not the way it's supposed to be. (And I don't even enjoy it when I'm on drugs or when I'm drunk. Then it just happens.....)

(ps: I'm 22, a bit too old for highschooldrama :wink:, but loveproblems/sex issues are for all ages, right?)


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: clorox]
    #7682601 - 11/26/07 04:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Are you calling me homophobic? Why?


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: DreamSignals]
    #7682603 - 11/26/07 04:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I think mushrooms have a strong psychic effects on the trippers. I know because me and my good friend did an eight of mushrooms with one of his friends, and it was her first time. I think we were both mildly attracted to her sexually, and during the trip our desire for her become very real, but not because of us, but because she started to get really horny and started stripping, suggested a three-way right then and there (we were in a public park) and then jumped into the river half naked. She had paranoid delusions after that. I think both of our desires combined with her sexual frustration (she also had "sex" issues, since her last boyfriend took advantage of her while she was drunk). She ended up screaming for hours until cops came over, and took her to the hospital. She claims she doesn't remember ANY OF IT, so I find your story very similar. I will also add that when she took off her top the energy around us got extremely primal, as if we were pure instinct at that point, very very weird. We could also "predict" the waves of screaming and nonsense a few moments before they happened because the energy around us would get tenser and tenser.




What kind of shrooms did you take? Thai as well?
I searched for ppl who couldn't remember things as well (as in: forgetting a few hours, or something big that happened, like with me and your friend), but I couldn't find any. Did you ever trip again with your friends? Or didn't she want to trip anymore? I'd still like to do it again with a good friend of mine (a girl), because the things I do remember were really fun to experience. But I'm a bit afraid something weird is going to happen again.


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Maron]
    #7682627 - 11/26/07 04:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

^It could be that tripping is an excellent way for you to work through repressed issues. Might I suggest taking mushrooms again, not for the purpose of recreation, but rather for the purpose of self exploration?


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    #7682683 - 11/26/07 05:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Why are you afraid of being sexual? It's fun.


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    #7682710 - 11/26/07 05:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

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im 100% sure that i would not want to fuck a guy or be fucked by a guy. there is nothing that would turn me on about any of that.




Thanks for clearing that up.  :wink:




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    #7684573 - 11/27/07 04:23 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Why are you afraid of being sexual? It's fun.




If it would be that easy, the world would be a much better place.
You can;'t just easily say it's fun. That's like saying to somebody who doesn't like chocolate: "why don't you like chocolate? It's delicious."

People differ, tastes differ, and sex differs as well. And if there's one thing you can experience in a thousand different ways or more, then it's sex. So don't say it that it's fun that easily!


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Re: I did something really bad and forgot that it happened [Re: Ness1]
    #7684921 - 11/27/07 08:20 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Some kid punched me in the face when he was on shrooms, the ones I gave him, but I didn't hold it against him he, it was obviously under the influnce of drugs.

Who cares if you're gay or bi or straight with odd tripping tendencies...why are you wearing that human suit in the first place? I'd work on the confidence of who you are, or better yet, who you are not.


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    #7685224 - 11/27/07 09:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If you talk to your friends if they are reasonable they will understand. You took drugs, got a little wet in the pants, and made a move on a friend. Shit happens.

You don't sound like you're holding it against those guys, why should they hold it against you?


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