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McKennaRules
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Can you access trip mindstates after the trip?
#7671805 - 11/23/07 06:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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After dosing on some shrooms, there is a residual buzz that remains with me for days afterward the trip. During this time, it's nice to smoke some weed and make sense of the trip.
After using this stuff for a couple of years I believe shrooms have caused a permanent change in who I am for the better. I'm calmer, more centered and observant of myself and others, and I owe this to the sacred mushroom.
The memories of those experiences have also served a purpose to me during times of boredom, disillusion and distress. Simply thinking about what it was like to feel total contentment during intoxication can make me feel better.
So we can all think back to what it was like when you were tripping and everything seemed perfect and the solutions and possibilities were endless.
But my question to the board is, can any of you access those powerful emotions and effects you felt during a trip while you were sober?
I'm aware, the full potential of a trip cannot be realized while sober. Nevertheless, what are your methods for making your trip have a more lasting impact and profound effect on who you are and for returning to those moments you felt?
My own methods are: 1) Introspection 2) Breathing exercises 3) Note-taking 4) Thinking about what I think
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AlCapwn
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Re: Can you access trip mindstates after the trip? [Re: McKennaRules]
#7671938 - 11/23/07 06:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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If I space out and concentrate, I can make my self subtly but surely trip.
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Re: Can you access trip mindstates after the trip? [Re: McKennaRules]
#7671947 - 11/23/07 06:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I used to before i started getting high -=/ now not so much.
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McKennaRules
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Re: Can you access trip mindstates after the trip? [Re: implee]
#7671968 - 11/23/07 06:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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implee said: I used to before i started getting high -=/ now not so much.
I smoke weed every day and it can still trip me out. If I quit for two weeks and start again, the first joint is pretty psychedelic.
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implee
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Re: Can you access trip mindstates after the trip? [Re: McKennaRules]
#7671975 - 11/23/07 07:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Weed can trip me out yeah.. But i used to get in that mushroom mindset without being stoned...
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McKennaRules
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Re: Can you access trip mindstates after the trip? [Re: AlCapwn]
#7672011 - 11/23/07 07:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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AlCapwn said: If I space out and concentrate, I can make my self subtly but surely trip.
Hey what part of Canada you from? If you're in the Toronto area, any luck finding acid there?
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2012shaman
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Re: Can you access trip mindstates after the trip? [Re: McKennaRules]
#7672084 - 11/23/07 07:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'd like to know the answer to that as well, I live in Quebec and my local hookups are useless.
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Re: Can you access trip mindstates after the trip? [Re: 2012shaman]
#7672306 - 11/23/07 07:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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2012shaman said: I'd like to know the answer to that as well, I live in Quebec and my local hookups are useless.
Lol, hope you dont get banned......... -------------------------------------------------------------------
Anyways, ya some people can. Some people dont even want that ability because it sort of bothers them on a scale of 0-10.
I can trip pretty hard anytime I want, and that may seem weird or fake to some people.
Sometimes I wonder why the tree bark is shifting and looking very beautiful yet intimidating when supposedly sober. Its the tripped out cognitive effects that really fuck with some people. The visuals are kind of a non-issue unless you have to read street signs in the dark while driving or some such shit.
I have learned that there are certain factors involved that one might not expect. -Like how long its been since I drank, smoked pot, or how many hours ago I ate some food/what kind of food. -Caffein, suger, too many cigs, my sleeping habits, whether I dream or not, stress, overstimulation, understimulation, a good movie, more sex, less sex, no sex for a somewhat long period of time, a good comedy, a horror film and the list just goes on and on.
All this shit really does effect my level of being tripped out yet, My mind is clearly a pliable machine that depends on outside sources to create the *most intense trip like states. Still, in an isolation tank, id be able to trip really hard if I didnt even try.
Ya, this happens to some people. For me, the first hint is a sort of body buzz that involves a slightly higher heart rate, and there is a certain smell. It smells like life. Everything smells like it. Its some enhanced sense of smell. I cant even stand the smell of my own brand of cigs in a room when im like this(when I really start to trip due mostly to outside factors, although I can do this at will aswell). When driving, I do anything I can to avoid driving behind some nasty fucking antichrist truck spewing black fumes.
The only cure I know of is alcohol.
Its total synesthesia for me 10 percent of the time when im sober.
The cognitive part is most important. The trip is always there, but I have to allow it to present its pattern. When I resist, it only makes it difficult. A blessing and a curse. No doubt about it when living in this modern world we live in. Lots of good things come of this, but I can totally see how this ability could really upset some people.
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
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Re: Can you access trip mindstates after the trip? [Re: McKennaRules]
#7672410 - 11/23/07 08:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Weed seems to bring back the effects alot. What will really do it is an adrenaline rush from something like physical exertion, getting spooked, lifechanging event, etc.. Adrenaline breaks down into adrenachrome, and yes it is a real tripping-chemical as from "Fear and Loathing Las Vegas".
I once had the most intense LSD trip once cause my mom showed up to my house while I was peaking and I had to run away outside going nutso cause I was tripping even harder from the fear of my mom showing up.
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Re: Can you access trip mindstates after the trip? [Re: yageman]
#7672421 - 11/23/07 08:17 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Uh oh, what rule did i break? Sorry.
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2012shaman
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Re: Can you access trip mindstates after the trip? [Re: yageman]
#7672428 - 11/23/07 08:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Uh oh, what rule did i break? Sorry.
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DeathCompany
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Re: Can you access trip mindstates after the trip? [Re: 2012shaman]
#7672494 - 11/23/07 08:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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u were asking for drug hookups....
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Re: Can you access trip mindstates after the trip? [Re: DeathCompany]
#7672529 - 11/23/07 08:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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whoops
Edited by Adagio (11/23/07 08:55 PM)
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Re: Can you access trip mindstates after the trip? [Re: McKennaRules]
#7672591 - 11/23/07 09:17 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I like to believe that every moment you experience is NOW, and you have access to all the moments in the past, present, and future.. right NOW! (But that's just me)
So I think that Yes, definitely, you can access trip mindstates after a trip. Although it may not be as strong or prominent as when you are tripping (due to a lack of/presence of a chemical), you can recall the state you were in.
When possible during trips, I try to say out loud, or at least over and over in my mind, whatever lesson I've learned. I can remember lessons like, "You just have to release!" and "We need to help each other", and reflecting on these lessons have brought me back into that mindstate I was experiencing when tripping. When rolling, I remember saying to myself, "There is so much love everywhere in everything!" For the entire week afterwards, whenever feeling a bit down or stressed, I would remind myself that the universe loves me (and everyone else, too!), and I would start feeling that euphoric high again.
It's great to recall past emotions, experiences, and lessons, because from them, we grow wiser.
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Re: Can you access trip mindstates after the trip? [Re: vitadura]
#7672900 - 11/23/07 11:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
vitadura said:
It's great to recall past emotions, experiences, and lessons, because from them, we grow wiser.
Yes very true.
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AlCapwn
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Re: Can you access trip mindstates after the trip? [Re: McKennaRules]
#7672965 - 11/23/07 11:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
McKennaRules said:
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AlCapwn said: If I space out and concentrate, I can make my self subtly but surely trip.
Hey what part of Canada you from? If you're in the Toronto area, any luck finding acid there?
NB. If I can find it here, in the middle of goddamn nowhere, there has to be shit tons in Toronto. As for Quebec City, I dunno, but I've found some in Montreal before.
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AlCapwn
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Re: Can you access trip mindstates after the trip? [Re: yageman]
#7672974 - 11/23/07 11:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I always just assumed you were on perma-trip mode, your posts just scream it. (I mean that in a good way, lucky bastard)
Right now, drinking beer is making the text on the shroomery shift, and adds the extra mushroom dimension to the music I'm listening too. If I get tired enough, it happens too.
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Re: Can you access trip mindstates after the trip? [Re: AlCapwn]
#7673826 - 11/24/07 08:11 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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meditation and chakra activation will bring about the trippy feeling. i'm not a master at meditating, but i've read that extremely deep levels of meditation and chakra activation can be very frightening if you are not ready to see higher realms of reality.
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Re: Can you access trip mindstates after the trip? [Re: McKennaRules]
#7673845 - 11/24/07 08:17 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, especially while doing yoga and fasting.
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Re: Can you access trip mindstates after the trip? [Re: MOTH]
#7674047 - 11/24/07 10:03 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I remember a warning here before about DOB being sold as acid in Toronto. I've had it and it sucks ass. I've also found "real acid" but one hit did very little. It seemed real in comparison to the DOB which tasted like metal and made me tweak instead of trip.
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