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Glacier Creek
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Cannabis as bulk? Lets try it. "updated pics"
#7671106 - 11/23/07 04:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here is the 1000 MH "blue spectrum" which keeps the overall room temp at about 78 degrees. To the left on the floor is the double tub incubator, and to the right is a few mono tub style fruiting chambers.

Here is a better pic of the stack so far.

My friend plans to add four, four foot red spectrum flo for budding, and a small cool t5 flo cloning, and veg area above the mono tub stack. The veg shelf is about four feet high, and 3x4 wide. This will be sealed in black rubber, with small fan ventilation, but no light in or out so both sections can be run on 8/16 and 12/12. Any ideas or problems foreseen?
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Edited by Glacier Creek (12/01/07 02:00 AM)
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Glacier Creek]
#7671274 - 11/23/07 04:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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looks good so far. Good luck with it. And rember to post pics of your grow when it comes
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Glacier Creek]
#7671323 - 11/23/07 04:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i woudlnt waste the $$ buying all those lights. mushrooms are not plants, the lights wont make them grow bigger or produce more. but its your setup so you can do what you want. GL
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The lights are for the plants, not for the mushrooms. I just chose MH because it stays more in the blue spectrum which will in turn make it possible to keep tubs in the same rooms. Or closet rather.
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Glacier Creek]
#7671429 - 11/23/07 05:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Keeping plants and mushrooms in the same room can be a bad idea as earth contains a lot of trichoderma (in fact some earths are enriched in it) and trich is a contaminant
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Nibin]
#7671864 - 11/23/07 06:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nibin said: Keeping plants and mushrooms in the same room can be a bad idea as earth contains a lot of trichoderma (in fact some earths are enriched in it) and trich is a contaminant
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: total]
#7672643 - 11/23/07 09:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I guess we'll see how it works out. Thanks for the heads up about triche though. All the tub work will obviously have to happen in a different room, then sealed back up, and moved back in. For gnats as well.
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Glacier Creek]
#7673357 - 11/24/07 02:15 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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also, the mushrooms will need alot of humidity...which can lead to budrot. better to keep them in separate grow areas.
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Optx]
#7701574 - 12/01/07 12:59 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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No contams so far. A couple of fly papers have been added around the plants. Buds coming soon, and the Mushrooms are here.
RR posted a picture today here:
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RogerRabbit said:

They may not like the smoke, but they seem to like the weed. RR
That got me thinking about drying all the stems, stripping them into fine peices and treating them like straw. I will add a little coir/coffee/gypsum to the mix, and check the PH before using as bulk. This would cut my trips to the store to buy coir by about half or more! You never know.
RH in the room itself is the same as the rest of my house due the intake and exhaust system which is filtered. RH in the tubs is kept at 80- 96% adjusted using bubble stones, with airflow ajustment valves. I run 3 tubs from the same pump using a 5 dollar tube splitting kit for fish tanks. It has the ajustment valves in the kit so you can vary each tubs bubbles.
If cased I can leave it on low, and if uncased I can crank for more RH. I keep everything vacumed, clean, and sanatized. No signs of gnats on the papers. So far looks like you can do both in the same closet.
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Glacier Creek]
#7701595 - 12/01/07 01:13 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Im not a fan of 1000 watt bulbs, Id rather take two 400 watt HPS and run them in my budding room, with a 250watt MH light for veg, 18/6 light cycle for 3 weeks of veg, then timers go over to 12/12 and *BAM* huge pornstar cola's
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I am not trying to get peak herb yeilds, but rather combine the two hobbies into one closet.
The 1000 MH supplimented with T5 warm spectrum flo for budding seemed like the best bet. The cool light from the MH is for the mushrooms. The lighs are to stay on a 12/12 cycle all the time. The veg portion of the room is a light sealed air vented portion of the closet lit with a 250watt MH on 16/8.
Change of design. After the first herb harvest the entire system is being changed to a pvc pipe hydro system. Fed via water pump and drained by gravity back into the mixing tub under the table. No more trich threat or messy watering table.
As of now two mothers are kept with 12 clones rooted, then placed into rockwool cubes to allow veg growth to a size of about 4 nodes where they are thown into one and a half gallon pots of foxfarm soil with added perlite, then watered with a 1/10 solution of pure blend bud with every watering until the last two weeks.
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Glacier Creek]
#7701625 - 12/01/07 01:36 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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heck yeah, get it done. I was just always worried about the power draw of 1000 watt bulbs, two 400's will produce more lumen's than a single 1000 providing you have a decent hood and good bulbs with great lumen to watt ratio. I really really need a bigger room :S.
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Glacier Creek]
#7701634 - 12/01/07 01:41 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Damn, you mislead me. I saw "Cannabis as bulk" and I thought you were going to use harvested Cannabis as a bulk substrate which would have been quite the thread. I know many of the nutrients in cannabis are quite beneficial to humans when orally consumed (hemp seed, etc) but I honestly don't know if cubensis would fruit off of just straight harvested cannabis. Or even, live cannabis. Wow, that would be crazy... just injecting LC into buds and having booms fruiting off of live buds on flowering herb plants. Ah, I've been drinking heavily, whatever I've said is probably just nonsense. What a shame If it's too good to be true it probably isn't. Not to mention it'd render the buds useless, all covered in mycelium.
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Glacier Creek]
#7701641 - 12/01/07 01:48 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I did not mean spawning to buds, just the dried stems left over from the herb harvest.
As soon as the first herb harvest comes down and is dried all of the leftover stem material is going to be processed like straw and spawned to. I plan to do some with coffee and some just stem.
My hope is to add this to my normal coir/coffe mix but cutting the materials I am actually buying in half. It will take a little bit of work to strip the stems into a more fiberous texture, but if it works it will be well worth the effort.
Edited by Glacier Creek (12/01/07 01:54 AM)
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Glacier Creek]
#7701753 - 12/01/07 03:18 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm surprised nobody dug this picture up from an old thread a few years ago. This is a QP of white widow buds. Alone, the buds were a fairly poor substrate, but I'm sure with a bit of spicing up with other ingredients, hemp is an excellent food source. You can use mycelium to recycle the old stems for sure. Hemp seems to be a better substrate material than the nugs, which is fine by me.  RR
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7702185 - 12/01/07 09:45 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: I'm surprised nobody dug this picture up from an old thread a few years ago. This is a QP of white widow buds. Alone, the buds were a fairly poor substrate, but I'm sure with a bit of spicing up with other ingredients, hemp is an excellent food source. You can use mycelium to recycle the old stems for sure. Hemp seems to be a better substrate material than the nugs, which is fine by me.  RR
I would just dry that whole thing once it finished fruiting, and smoke it all.
Thats some very cool stuff there RR. Thanks so much. This just seems like such a great way to suppliment my bulk. I already use a fish tank hose to let the run off from my misting uncased tubs drain into my watering can for the plants. This is just the water that runs down the wall of the tub when it is directly sprayed. A little thing I know, but everything helps.
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Glacier Creek]
#7702857 - 12/01/07 01:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Haha, reminds me of what Dennis McKenna used to refer to as "The Good Shit," some sort of admixture of hashish and mycelium-containing manure, said to produce intense effects when smoked. Great photos.
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punkhardcore92 said: Im not a fan of 1000 watt bulbs, Id rather take two 400 watt HPS and run them in my budding room, with a 250watt MH light for veg, 18/6 light cycle for 3 weeks of veg, then timers go over to 12/12 and *BAM* huge pornstar cola's
Bad Idea. All 400 watt lamps no matter if MH, HID or HPS has lousy energy to heat ratio. The 600 is better but the 100 watt is way better.
The T5 is good for veggie and clones like you said. So basically just the 2 lights would be good. Unless you had the T5 with a smaller, maybe 250 w/MH would be good. But for the budding stage stick with the 1000 watter. That's where the density comes in.
Looks like your already working with clones, because of the internode spacing. Very good what you have right now (plants). They look dense. That's from the 1000 watter.
You won't get that with the T5 unless you start bending the plant causing it to stress which is like topping it without cutting it. This is also very good. It allows the plant below the tip to grow very full. Once the plants are about a foot tall sometimes shorter depending on the strength of the stock. Just grab the tip of the plant tie a little piece of dental floss or a twist tie from the produce section. Make sure you loosley tie a loop around it. Just enough to hold the tip without it slipping out of the not.
Pull the plant down til it arks. Tie it to something, the other tip of the floss or string. Keeping the plant bent. The top of the plant tip down. Keep it like that for a week or 2.
Then BAM! You have some good growth. Phleom and Zylum kicks in and your set. Untie it.
And as far as the mushies don't keep them in the same room. Without a doubt you will get some type of fly or pest from the plants. It's practically impossible not to.
Then you fan your mushies here and there, a pest gets inside, lays eggs, your screwed.
You can use light from a window for your mushrooms.
Hope this helps. If you have anymore ?'s PM me. I used to grow very very well. As well as taking horticulture classes and botonay classes in college.
I love giving growing advice as well as growing.
Looks good though. You almost got a good set up.
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7703011 - 12/01/07 02:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: I'm surprised nobody dug this picture up from an old thread a few years ago. This is a QP of white widow buds. Alone, the buds were a fairly poor substrate, but I'm sure with a bit of spicing up with other ingredients, hemp is an excellent food source. You can use mycelium to recycle the old stems for sure. Hemp seems to be a better substrate material than the nugs, which is fine by me.  RR
That makes me want to cry... haha, i don't know if i should be happy or angry that people have that kind of bud to toss around and i'm scratchin and clawin to get high. haha
Well done, rr
Also, Glacier, you as a chef, should know that cannabis is a spice. haha
Nice goin man, good luck, and keep us posted
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Molasses]
#7703123 - 12/01/07 03:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i don't know if i should be happy or angry that people have that kind of bud to toss around
Well, I could have just grown on plain old money, which is a hemp/cotton blend. Both were an exercise in sinful waste, but it was sure fun. RR
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7704749 - 12/01/07 11:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i don't know if i should be happy or angry that people have that kind of bud to toss around
Well, I could have just grown on plain old money, which is a hemp/cotton blend. Both were an exercise in sinful waste, but it was sure fun. RR
First of all.... THAT is the coolest fucking thing I have ever seen. Someone finally found a good use for that crap. Again,.. way to go RR.
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Bad Idea. All 400 watt lamps no matter if MH, HID or HPS has lousy energy to heat ratio. The 600 is better but the 100 watt is way better.
The T5 is good for veggie and clones like you said. So basically just the 2 lights would be good. Unless you had the T5 with a smaller, maybe 250 w/MH would be good. But for the budding stage stick with the 1000 watter. That's where the density comes in.
Looks like your already working with clones, because of the internode spacing. Very good what you have right now (plants). They look dense. That's from the 1000 watter.
You won't get that with the T5 unless you start bending the plant causing it to stress which is like topping it without cutting it. This is also very good. It allows the plant below the tip to grow very full. Once the plants are about a foot tall sometimes shorter depending on the strength of the stock. Just grab the tip of the plant tie a little piece of dental floss or a twist tie from the produce section. Make sure you loosley tie a loop around it. Just enough to hold the tip without it slipping out of the not.
Pull the plant down til it arks. Tie it to something, the other tip of the floss or string. Keeping the plant bent. The top of the plant tip down. Keep it like that for a week or 2.
Then BAM! You have some good growth. Phleom and Zylum kicks in and your set. Untie it.
And as far as the mushies don't keep them in the same room. Without a doubt you will get some type of fly or pest from the plants. It's practically impossible not to.
Then you fan your mushies here and there, a pest gets inside, lays eggs, your screwed.
You can use light from a window for your mushrooms.
Hope this helps. If you have anymore ?'s PM me. I used to grow very very well. As well as taking horticulture classes and botonay classes in college.
I love giving growing advice as well as growing.
Looks good though. You almost got a good set up.
I think you may have misunderstood what I was saying. The t5 warm spectrum flo are going to be hung directly over the plant table to add red spectrum to the MH 1000 which is a blue spectrum light.
Sice flo bulbs don't have a very long range, the mushrooms are recieving the cool blue MH light, while the plants on the table get both.
The light on the table stays on 12/12.
The light in the "Veg" area is a 250 watt Metal halide. This is for the two mothers, and the clones up to 6 nodes. Those white pots have spaces on the edge of all four corner that allow for tie downs, and training.
Once in the pots, the plants are tied to one side to allow the bottom branches to catch up to the ones on the top. This ensures a nice even yeild of bud from all the branches, because they are same distance from the light. I will post some close up plant pics tomorrow when the light comes back on. I have much more exp with herb than mushrooms, so although advice is ALWAYS welcome in my posts, the grow part of the closet I definatly have dialed in for what I am trying to do. Thanks so much for all of your posts, and ideas. Expect many exciting updates soon.
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Glacier Creek]
#7704771 - 12/01/07 11:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Molasses]
#7713747 - 12/04/07 12:41 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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12/12 has begun,
Sexing 14 plants, and the males are going to be cut down, dried, and used as bulk to test. Should have pics within the week.... For once in my life I am hoping for a few males so I can get this started!
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Molasses]
#7713837 - 12/04/07 01:46 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Molasses said:
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RogerRabbit said: I'm surprised nobody dug this picture up from an old thread a few years ago. This is a QP of white widow buds. Alone, the buds were a fairly poor substrate, but I'm sure with a bit of spicing up with other ingredients, hemp is an excellent food source. You can use mycelium to recycle the old stems for sure. Hemp seems to be a better substrate material than the nugs, which is fine by me.  RR
That makes me want to cry... haha, i don't know if i should be happy or angry that people have that kind of bud to toss around and i'm scratchin and clawin to get high. haha
Well done, rr
Also, Glacier, you as a chef, should know that cannabis is a spice. haha
Nice goin man, good luck, and keep us posted
OMG, i would take that QP of white widdow over that shitty flush any day.
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Glacier Creek]
#7713846 - 12/04/07 01:56 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Glacier Creek, a thought ran through my mind as I was reading this thread. If hemp is a great food source, as RR said, why don't you grind up your stems into a fine powder and mix into your dry bulk substrate before bringing it to field capacity?
It would seem like it would just be more beneficial nutrients for the mycelium to devour. I would bet that it would make a difference rather than just using the stems to replace straw.
If you don't try it out, I'm going to try adding some ground stems to my next bulk substrate.
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Chi Ro]
#7713879 - 12/04/07 02:27 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i wounder if the THC would stay intact or be broken down by the mycelium. it would be cool to eat the cakes and get the effects of both.
and wow that white window picture makes me cry, the cost of a QP vs. the yield of crop gained is a horrible waste. i cant imagine the THC level helping the grow so why not try it on something shitty?! =(
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Glacier Creek]
#7715387 - 12/04/07 01:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Chi Ro said: Glacier Creek, a thought ran through my mind as I was reading this thread. If hemp is a great food source, as RR said, why don't you grind up your stems into a fine powder and mix into your dry bulk substrate before bringing it to field capacity?
It would seem like it would just be more beneficial nutrients for the mycelium to devour. I would bet that it would make a difference rather than just using the stems to replace straw.
If you don't try it out, I'm going to try adding some ground stems to my next bulk substrate.
 
Quote:
Glacier Creek said:


No contams so far. A couple of fly papers have been added around the plants. Buds coming soon, and the Mushrooms are here.
RR posted a picture today here:
Quote:
RogerRabbit said:

They may not like the smoke, but they seem to like the weed. RR
That got me thinking about drying all the stems, stripping them into fine peices and treating them like straw. I will add a little coir/coffee/gypsum to the mix, and check the PH before using as bulk. This would cut my trips to the store to buy coir by about half or more! You never know.
RH in the room itself is the same as the rest of my house due the intake and exhaust system which is filtered. RH in the tubs is kept at 80- 96% adjusted using bubble stones, with airflow ajustment valves. I run 3 tubs from the same pump using a 5 dollar tube splitting kit for fish tanks. It has the ajustment valves in the kit so you can vary each tubs bubbles.
If cased I can leave it on low, and if uncased I can crank for more RH. I keep everything vacumed, clean, and sanatized. No signs of gnats on the papers. So far looks like you can do both in the same closet.
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Mojo]
#7715401 - 12/04/07 01:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: I'm surprised nobody dug this picture up from an old thread a few years ago. This is a QP of white widow buds. Alone, the buds were a fairly poor substrate, but I'm sure with a bit of spicing up with other ingredients, hemp is an excellent food source. You can use mycelium to recycle the old stems for sure. Hemp seems to be a better substrate material than the nugs, which is fine by me.  RR
That makes me want to cry... haha, i don't know if i should be happy or angry that people have that kind of bud to toss around and i'm scratchin and clawin to get high. haha
Well done, rr
Also, Glacier, you as a chef, should know that cannabis is a spice. haha
Nice goin man, good luck, and keep us posted
OMG, i would take that QP of white widdow over that shitty flush any day.
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Caribou_Lou]
#7715455 - 12/04/07 01:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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As I had mentioned in an earlier post about "training" the plants with tubes tucked into the already cut slits in thier pots. As such,.....

The PB in the same tub as the malabars are finally showing some strong pinning. I say "finallaly" but it has actually only been about 9 days, but in that time I have taken down all the mature mallys, and let the pins mature before resting for 3 days, and initiating my second flush from this bag. Side by side the PB are just about even with the remaining pins from the first flush of MB.

This tub uses zoo med digital thermometers from petsmart. On sale for 6.99 at the time of purchase.

And zoo med hydrometers at 4.99 reg price at petsmart.

The second, and larger tub, with two spawns divided with seperate black garbage bag is doing very well.

Both tubs share one pump for the bubble stone humidity system I rigged up with a six dollar bag of fish tank tubing and parts.


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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Enothe]
#7715546 - 12/04/07 01:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Enothe said: i wounder if the THC would stay intact or be broken down by the mycelium. it would be cool to eat the cakes and get the effects of both.
and wow that white window picture makes me cry, the cost of a QP vs. the yield of crop gained is a horrible waste. i cant imagine the THC level helping the grow so why not try it on something shitty?! =(
He did it for novelty purposes, that is all. You're not even in the first 100 people to say that it was a waste, and you probably won't be in the last 100 either.
No THC transfers to the fruiting bodies. It is probably digested by the mycelium.
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Sillicybin]
#7715783 - 12/04/07 02:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's funny how posts about someone's cake sprouting a pin gets more comments than any of my posts.
Guess I am wasting my time for the most part, but for anyone this helps I guess it was worth it.
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Glacier Creek]
#7715831 - 12/04/07 02:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you're planning to switch your ladies to a PVC setup I'd make one suggestion. . . PUT A TARP DOWN!
Man the last thing you want to see is a flooded bedroom floor because a calcium buildup sent water shooting straight up out of your tubing. That will ruin your day.
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: drwatson]
#7716220 - 12/04/07 04:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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My table is totally waterproof, and has a drain back to the resivoir. I plan to just leave this as is, so if anything does break or leak, the water content wouldnt be enough to overfill the entire tub. Not to mention, every square inch of that room is covered in white 8 ply plastic from a hydro shop. Great thinking though, I just already had it covered.
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Glacier Creek]
#7716805 - 12/04/07 06:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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what size pots are these?
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: flushme]
#7716864 - 12/04/07 06:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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1.5 gallon
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Glacier Creek]
#7716967 - 12/04/07 07:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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how many inches are they? 6"?
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: flushme]
#7717679 - 12/04/07 09:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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No they are much taller. Not sure on the exact hight but they are deep, designed for deep taproots. They should be available at any decent hydro shop, as I guess it is the new rage.
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punkhardcore92 said: heck yeah, get it done. I was just always worried about the power draw of 1000 watt bulbs, two 400's will produce more lumen's than a single 1000 providing you have a decent hood and good bulbs with great lumen to watt ratio. I really really need a bigger room :S.
I want you to show me which 400w bulb can produce 70,000 lumens. Because a standard 1k produces over 140,000 lumens.
GET REAL! two 400w lights will never compare to a 1k. Maybe you typod and meant two 600w's.
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Novel idea but I'd say keep them seperate. Lots of cross contam issues and such, plus with bright lights temps could get out of fruiting range for mush but still be ok for the plants.
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: DuBri]
#7718416 - 12/05/07 03:44 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Are you not seeing the results? My temps are 75-78 degrees. Temps don't mean shit when it comes to pinning cubes anyways. That is the least of the contributing factors. The beauty of a tub is that it can be opened anywhere. They dont have to be opened in the same room, if and when they need to be opened at all.
The point here isn't to see if it is optimal for either one of the hobbies, but rather for someone who likes to toke a lot, AND munch some cubes now and then to have both. And how to best deal with the problems you guys are mentioning.
I realize full well that my mushrooms could be in a better enviroment, but the bottom line is this. I have one nice sized walk in closet to work with. I have no other room possible, none..... So this magical "other place" to put them doesnt exist. I either grow herb in here, or I grow mushrooms, or I grow both.
I choose both, because herb would be the number one choice, and there is NO WAY growing shrooms in a tub is going to effect the quality of the buds. I monitor the room humidity, and it is no where close to being too high for herb plants.
So that leaves me with this whole area getting blue spectrum light, but not enough to add any extra plants.
Why not add some tubs of cubes. It obviously is working, with no contams so far, so why wouldnt I rather have both than only herb?
Cmon guys read the thread before you comment. I already discussed the fact that I realize this isnt the best conditions to grow tubs in, but I wanted to post the best way to do it if someone wanted to pull it off.
Try not to add any more comments with your opinions on the fact that I might contam more being closer to the plants.
I understand this.
I would rather have a fat spliff in my pocket while shrooming up in the mountains than not........
Who wouldn't....
The trick is how few contams can I get down to over time by improving my methods such as changing from soil, to soiless because of things learned over the process of starting this project. Anyways, thanks for taking the time to check it out. But for now, I am proceeding as planned, and all is working beautifully.
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Glacier Creek]
#7720647 - 12/05/07 05:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7720739 - 12/05/07 05:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: I'm surprised nobody dug this picture up from an old thread a few years ago. This is a QP of white widow buds. Alone, the buds were a fairly poor substrate, but I'm sure with a bit of spicing up with other ingredients, hemp is an excellent food source. You can use mycelium to recycle the old stems for sure. Hemp seems to be a better substrate material than the nugs, which is fine by me.  RR
regardless of whether or not the THC was used up or not, i would have sliced the substrate like a loaf of bread and put it between 2 hamburger buns.
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Molasses]
#7725456 - 12/06/07 05:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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So I found out that by adding hydroponic nutes one can grow in straight coir. So if this is the case, could I not just grow a plant in coir, then let it completely dry out, chop everything up, rehydrate, and pastuerize. Then use this as bulk. It would contain no soil at all, but it would have leftover Pureblend gro and bud formula soaked into the coir.
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Glacier Creek]
#7725534 - 12/06/07 05:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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The coir would have all the salts left over from the mj grow. I'd dry the stalks separately and use fresh a fresh batch of coir for the mushrooms. RR
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7725662 - 12/06/07 06:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: The coir would have all the salts left over from the mj grow. I'd dry the stalks separately and use fresh a fresh batch of coir for the mushrooms. RR
Exactly what I needed to know. Thanks RR, I'll just stick to a hydro setup and use the stems as a coir suppliment.
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7725989 - 12/06/07 07:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: I'm surprised nobody dug this picture up from an old thread a few years ago. This is a QP of white widow buds. Alone, the buds were a fairly poor substrate, but I'm sure with a bit of spicing up with other ingredients, hemp is an excellent food source. You can use mycelium to recycle the old stems for sure. Hemp seems to be a better substrate material than the nugs, which is fine by me.  RR
thats the most edible substrate i've seen yet lol thatd be a trip
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