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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Molasses]
    #7703123 - 12/01/07 03:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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i don't know if i should be happy or angry that people have that kind of bud to toss around




Well, I could have just grown on plain old money, which is a hemp/cotton blend. Both were an exercise in sinful waste, but it was sure fun.
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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7704749 - 12/01/07 11:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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i don't know if i should be happy or angry that people have that kind of bud to toss around




Well, I could have just grown on plain old money, which is a hemp/cotton blend. Both were an exercise in sinful waste, but it was sure fun.
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First of all.... THAT is the coolest fucking thing I have ever seen. Someone finally found a good use for that crap. Again,.. way to go RR.



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Bad Idea. All 400 watt lamps no matter if MH, HID or HPS has lousy energy to heat ratio. The 600 is better but the 100 watt is way better.

The T5 is good for veggie and clones like you said. So basically just the 2 lights would be good. Unless you had the T5 with a smaller, maybe 250 w/MH would be good. But for the budding stage stick with the 1000 watter. That's where the density comes in.

Looks like your already working with clones, because of the internode spacing. Very good what you have right now (plants). They look dense. That's from the 1000 watter.

You won't get that with the T5 unless you start bending the plant causing it to stress which is like topping it without cutting it. This is also very good. It allows the plant below the tip to grow very full. Once the plants are about a foot tall sometimes shorter depending on the strength of the stock. Just grab the tip of the plant tie a little piece of dental floss or a twist tie from the produce section. Make sure you loosley tie a loop around it. Just enough to hold the tip without it slipping out of the not.

Pull the plant down til it arks. Tie it to something, the other tip of the floss or string. Keeping the plant bent. The top of the plant tip down. Keep it like that for a week or 2.

Then BAM! You have some good growth. Phleom and Zylum kicks in and your set. Untie it.

And as far as the mushies don't keep them in the same room. Without a doubt you will get some type of fly or pest from the plants. It's practically impossible not to.

Then you fan your mushies here and there, a pest gets inside, lays eggs, your screwed.

You can use light from a window for your mushrooms.

Hope this helps. If you have anymore ?'s PM me. I used to grow very very well. As well as taking horticulture classes and botonay classes in college.

I love giving growing advice as well as growing.

Looks good though. You almost got a good set up.





I think you may have misunderstood what I was saying. The t5 warm spectrum flo are going to be hung directly over the plant table to add red spectrum to the MH 1000 which is a blue spectrum light.

Sice flo bulbs don't have a very long range, the mushrooms are recieving the cool blue MH light, while the plants on the table get both.

The light on the table stays on 12/12.

The light in the "Veg" area is a 250 watt Metal halide. This is for the two mothers, and the clones up to 6 nodes. Those white pots have spaces on the edge of all four corner that allow for tie downs, and training.

Once in the pots, the plants are tied to one side to allow the bottom branches to catch up to the ones on the top. This ensures a nice even yeild of bud from all the branches, because they are same distance from the light. I will post some close up plant pics tomorrow when the light comes back on. I have much more exp with herb than mushrooms, so although advice is ALWAYS welcome in my posts, the grow part of the closet I definatly have dialed in for what I am trying to do. Thanks so much for all of your posts, and ideas. Expect many exciting updates soon.



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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Glacier Creek]
    #7704771 - 12/01/07 11:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

those look amazing man


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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Molasses]
    #7713747 - 12/04/07 12:41 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

12/12 has begun,

Sexing 14 plants, and the males are going to be cut down, dried, and used as bulk to test. Should have pics within the week.... For once in my life I am hoping for a few males so I can get this started!


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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Molasses]
    #7713837 - 12/04/07 01:46 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm surprised nobody dug this picture up from an old thread a few years ago.  This is a QP of white widow buds.  Alone, the buds were a fairly poor substrate, but I'm sure with a bit of spicing up with other ingredients, hemp is an excellent food source.  You can use mycelium to recycle the old stems for sure.  Hemp seems to be a better substrate material than the nugs, which is fine by me. :laugh:
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That makes me want to cry... haha, i don't know if i should be happy or angry that people have that kind of bud to toss around and i'm scratchin and clawin to get high. haha

Well done, rr

Also, Glacier, you as a chef, should know that cannabis is a spice. haha

Nice goin man, good luck, and keep us posted




OMG, i would take that QP of white widdow over that shitty flush any day.


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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Glacier Creek]
    #7713846 - 12/04/07 01:56 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Glacier Creek, a thought ran through my mind as I was reading this thread. If hemp is a great food source, as RR said, why don't you grind up your stems into a fine powder and mix into your dry bulk substrate before bringing it to field capacity?

It would seem like it would just be more beneficial nutrients for the mycelium to devour. I would bet that it would make a difference rather than just using the stems to replace straw.

If you don't try it out, I'm going to try adding some ground stems to my next bulk substrate.


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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Chi Ro]
    #7713879 - 12/04/07 02:27 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i wounder if the THC would stay intact or be broken down by the mycelium.
it would be cool to eat the cakes and get the effects of both.

and wow that white window picture makes me cry, the cost of a QP vs. the yield of crop gained is a horrible waste. i cant imagine the THC level helping the grow so why not try it on something shitty?! =(


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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Glacier Creek]
    #7715387 - 12/04/07 01:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Glacier Creek, a thought ran through my mind as I was reading this thread. If hemp is a great food source, as RR said, why don't you grind up your stems into a fine powder and mix into your dry bulk substrate before bringing it to field capacity?

It would seem like it would just be more beneficial nutrients for the mycelium to devour. I would bet that it would make a difference rather than just using the stems to replace straw.

If you don't try it out, I'm going to try adding some ground stems to my next bulk substrate.






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No contams so far.  A couple of fly papers have been added around the plants.  Buds coming soon, and the Mushrooms are here. 

RR posted a picture today here:

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They may not like the smoke, but they seem to like the weed.
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That got me thinking about drying all the stems, stripping them into fine peices and treating them like straw.  I will add a little coir/coffee/gypsum to the mix, and check the PH before using as bulk.  This would cut my trips to the store to buy coir by about half or more!  You never know.

RH in the room itself is the same as the rest of my house due the intake and exhaust system which is filtered.  RH in the tubs is kept at 80- 96% adjusted using bubble stones, with airflow ajustment valves.  I run 3 tubs from the same pump using a 5 dollar tube splitting kit for fish tanks.  It has the ajustment valves in the kit so you can vary each tubs bubbles. 

If cased I can leave it on low, and if uncased I can crank for more RH. 
I keep everything vacumed, clean, and sanatized.  No signs of gnats on the papers.  So far looks like you can do both in the same closet.






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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Mojo]
    #7715401 - 12/04/07 01:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm surprised nobody dug this picture up from an old thread a few years ago.  This is a QP of white widow buds.  Alone, the buds were a fairly poor substrate, but I'm sure with a bit of spicing up with other ingredients, hemp is an excellent food source.  You can use mycelium to recycle the old stems for sure.  Hemp seems to be a better substrate material than the nugs, which is fine by me. :laugh:
RR







That makes me want to cry... haha, i don't know if i should be happy or angry that people have that kind of bud to toss around and i'm scratchin and clawin to get high. haha

Well done, rr

Also, Glacier, you as a chef, should know that cannabis is a spice. haha

Nice goin man, good luck, and keep us posted




OMG, i would take that QP of white widdow over that shitty flush any day.




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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7715455 - 12/04/07 01:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

As I had mentioned in an earlier post about "training" the plants with tubes tucked into the already cut slits in thier pots. As such,.....



The PB in the same tub as the malabars are finally showing some strong pinning. I say "finallaly" but it has actually only been about 9 days, but in that time I have taken down all the mature mallys, and let the pins mature before resting for 3 days, and initiating my second flush from this bag. Side by side the PB are just about even with the remaining pins from the first flush of MB.



This tub uses zoo med digital thermometers from petsmart. On sale for 6.99 at the time of purchase.



And zoo med hydrometers at 4.99 reg price at petsmart.



The second, and larger tub, with two spawns divided with seperate black garbage bag is doing very well.



Both tubs share one pump for the bubble stone humidity system I rigged up with a six dollar bag of fish tank tubing and parts.





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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Enothe]
    #7715546 - 12/04/07 01:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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i wounder if the THC would stay intact or be broken down by the mycelium.
it would be cool to eat the cakes and get the effects of both.

and wow that white window picture makes me cry, the cost of a QP vs. the yield of crop gained is a horrible waste. i cant imagine the THC level helping the grow so why not try it on something shitty?! =(




He did it for novelty purposes, that is all. You're not even in the first 100 people to say that it was a waste, and you probably won't be in the last 100 either.

No THC transfers to the fruiting bodies. It is probably digested by the mycelium.


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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Sillicybin]
    #7715783 - 12/04/07 02:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It's funny how posts about someone's cake sprouting a pin gets more comments than any of my posts.


Guess I am wasting my time for the most part, but for anyone this helps I guess it was worth it.


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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Glacier Creek]
    #7715831 - 12/04/07 02:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

If you're planning to switch your ladies to a PVC setup I'd make one suggestion. . . PUT A TARP DOWN!

Man the last thing you want to see is a flooded bedroom floor because a calcium buildup sent water shooting straight up out of your tubing. That will ruin your day.


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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: drwatson]
    #7716220 - 12/04/07 04:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

My table is totally waterproof, and has a drain back to the resivoir. I plan to just leave this as is, so if anything does break or leak, the water content wouldnt be enough to overfill the entire tub. Not to mention, every square inch of that room is covered in white 8 ply plastic from a hydro shop. Great thinking though, I just already had it covered.


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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Glacier Creek]
    #7716805 - 12/04/07 06:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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what size pots are these?


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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: flushme]
    #7716864 - 12/04/07 06:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

1.5 gallon


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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: Glacier Creek]
    #7716967 - 12/04/07 07:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

how many inches are they? 6"?


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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: flushme]
    #7717679 - 12/04/07 09:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

No they are much taller. Not sure on the exact hight but they are deep, designed for deep taproots. They should be available at any decent hydro shop, as I guess it is the new rage.


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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: punkhardcore92]
    #7717717 - 12/04/07 09:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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heck yeah, get it done. I was just always worried about the power draw of 1000 watt bulbs, two 400's will produce more lumen's than a single 1000 providing you have a decent hood and good bulbs with great lumen to watt ratio. I really really need a bigger room :S.




I want you to show me which 400w bulb can produce 70,000 lumens. Because a standard 1k produces over 140,000 lumens.

GET REAL!  two 400w lights will never compare to a 1k.  Maybe you typod and meant two 600w's.  :confused:


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Re: Hybrid Closet Idea "with pics" [Re: punkhardcore92]
    #7717968 - 12/04/07 11:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Novel idea but I'd say keep them seperate. Lots of cross contam issues and such, plus with bright lights temps could get out of fruiting range for mush but still be ok for the plants.


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