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InvisibleTheHateCamel
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Conservapedia most viewed statistics.
    #7670027 - 11/23/07 11:24 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)


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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #7670086 - 11/23/07 11:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know exactly what to think about that :lol:


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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7670262 - 11/23/07 12:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Homosexuality has a much larger article than Jesus, God, or Love; Forgiveness doesn't have an article.

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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #7670371 - 11/23/07 12:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

thats just sad

:nonono:

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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #7670391 - 11/23/07 12:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I looked at their article on global warming, and they act like Al Gore invented the idea.


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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: Silversoul]
    #7670469 - 11/23/07 01:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

It was a twofer deal. Internet and global warming all in one.

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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: Redstorm]
    #7670776 - 11/23/07 02:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Propoganda. People were learning to much about companies and conspiracies involving them.

The one thing those wealthy guys couldnt count on, is the power of love. The cannot see it, so they were blind to its upheavel.

Spread love and watch people move, spread fear and watch them paralyze.

Love without condition, acceptance without condition, importance without distinction.

All seperate things exist, through other, we know and see them through the existence of others.


Good people we see, are bad people to others...what we think is good, is simply a reflection of what we think is the inversion of bad.

Bad and good, are then, equally important because they exist in our lives, like the asshole and the goddess...only mutually, only together and inexist, only mutually and together....

Is a goddess a goddess, when all the world is full of goddess.?

Is light, light when all there existed was bright...and no darkness, to see light within?

Love is the same, indifferent and unconditioned.

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And remember the computer does not appear to respond to words of anger and frustration - just give it input, in the form of new meanings that you know to be true and its messages to you and the limits it lays out for you, will change.

Guilt is an outcome of believing you are the cause of the problems.

Yet, we are not a cause to something, we see is negative or bad - Unless you believe your intentions are directed towards a bad outcome....

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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #7670821 - 11/23/07 02:30 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yay more misinformation on the internet :flowstone:

http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosexuality

What a cess pool the internet has become.  It's like searching the sewers to find a quarter.


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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: Plok]
    #7670836 - 11/23/07 02:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Which part is incorrect? Are you a biologist or sociologist? Why should we accept your version (whatever that may be)?


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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7672283 - 11/23/07 07:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Did you read the article, Orgone? It's a fundamentalist, hate mongering joke!

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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7672457 - 11/23/07 08:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Most of their "evidence" is cited form pre-1995.

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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: xFrockx]
    #7672646 - 11/23/07 09:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Neither you nor NN answered my reasonable questions.


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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7672725 - 11/23/07 10:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not a biologist or a sociologist... although I really could end up being either. (More likely a philosopher or anthropologist, though.)

Here's one thing wrong with it:

Quote:

The following was reported in regards to Dr. Bryant Wood's archaeological work in relating to the biblical city of Sodom:

“Most intriguing was evidence that a massive fire had destroyed the city. It lay buried under a coating of ash several feet thick. A cemetery one kilometer outside the city contained charred remains of roofs, posts, and bricks turned red from heat.

Dr. Bryant Wood, in describing these charnel houses, stated that a fire began on the roofs of these buildings. Eventually the burning roof collapsed into the interior and spread inside the building. This was the case in every house they excavated. Such a massive fiery destruction would match the biblical account that the city was destroyed by fire that rained down from heaven. Wood states, 'The evidence would suggest that this site of Bab edh-Drha is the biblical city of Sodom.'[59]"


Dr. Wood provides some additional material in relation to the find being the biblical city of Sodom.[60][61]




People with an agenda to prove the bible as a literal account of history constantly interpret archaeological discoveries as proof. In reality, it makes much more sense to interpret the biblical story as a moral and mythic explanation for a very ordinary event. Cities are occasionally destroyed by fire, this does not mean that God threw fire balls from the sky. This is the way of mythology - true events are interpreted and superimposed with preexisting mythos in order to give them meaning and context within the prevailing worldview.

The source is making a giant leap in assuming that the archaeological site really was "Sodom" rather than any other town. This is because he has an agenda to prove his mythology factual, when in fact, it is mythology. This does not mean that the city couldn't possibly be "Sodom" but that if it was, it probably burned down the same mundane, ordinary way other cities burn down.

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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7672853 - 11/23/07 10:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Why should I spoon feed you information about why the homosexuality article is a mockery?  Are you too lazy to look at the talk page?  That alone is enough.

As a psychology major who has studied gender roles and homosexuality, I can confidently say that their claims that homosexuality has a "negative impact" on a person is utterly false, especially in the case of open sexuality.  Conservapedia sites one study that concluded that homosexuals have a greater risk of mental health problems, however, one has to take into account the impact on someone being born into a non-traditional gender role.  They say that in the Netherlands homosexuals are allowed to marry, but still suffer from mental illness.  This may be true, but that dosn't make it relevant.  Being able to legally function in a society is a far cry from not being treated differently (even by oneself and one's family.)  Not only that, but the study only cites a correlation.  Correlations can never be used as causal inferences.  So one could never say that homosexuality causes more mental health problems using correlational data.

If that isn't enough, heres a comment on the study I found on another website:
"The papers do show that since only a minority of a nonclinical sample of homosexuals has any diagnosable mental problems (at least by present diagnostic criteria), then most homosexuals are not mentally ill."

Basically, they found that they had a 5.1 times higher association with suicide.  When they factored in a couple other things like substance abuse, they found their correlation to be even weaker: only 2.5%  So, in other words, for every one straight person who commits suicide, theres an extra 1.5 homosexuals who do.  Seeing as how this is only correlational data, as a scientist one could never put any firm belief behind such flimsy results.

http://www.narth.com/docs/whitehead.html

Heres another thing I saw that I could not let go:
"married men who are not separated are at least 25 times less apt to be domestically attacked than a homosexual male in an 'on-going relationship"

I saw this and just thought "no shit."  Honestly, a heterosexual male will always be beaten less than a homosexual male in a relationship.  Why?  Because males express aggression in more physical ways.  How many women beat their husbands?  And even more glaringly so, how many of those husbands would report being beaten by a woman?  Something tells me very, very few.  Liza Minelli is the exception, not the rule :wink:

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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: xFrockx]
    #7672920 - 11/23/07 11:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

"married men who are not separated are at least 25 times less apt to be domestically attacked than a homosexual male in an 'on-going relationship"




Whatever the explanation, how does this qualify as misinformation? Are you saying it is not factual? Do you have data to counter it?


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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7672928 - 11/23/07 11:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Do you have data to counter it?




I have data



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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: xFrockx]
    #7672930 - 11/23/07 11:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

xFrockx said:
Most of their "evidence" is cited form pre-1995.




Ah yes, much has changed since that primitive and ancient era. :rolleyes:


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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7672941 - 11/23/07 11:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The rumor is that Data is 'fully functional'. Is that true? :naughty:


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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7672959 - 11/23/07 11:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
The rumor is that Data is 'fully functional'. Is that true? :naughty:




You're asking me this question from a purely informative perspective, or does it regards romantic feelings?
The answers may vary :lol:


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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7672964 - 11/23/07 11:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

It may be factual, but that doesn't give it relevance. Women do not beat men as much as men beat men. Is this news to you?

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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7672966 - 11/23/07 11:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

In Windows-speak: is he plug-and-play?


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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7672970 - 11/23/07 11:39 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I'm afraid they took that option away when they directed Star Treck. :frown:


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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7672972 - 11/23/07 11:40 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

When it comes to psychology, 1995 is ancient. Christ, it's 12 years ago. Most professors won't even accept Psych papers with sources more than 5-7 years old (content dependent, obviously) and thats REALLY pushing it. Why do you think APA formatting focuses on the year of publication so much? 1995 is ancient history when it comes to psychology.

I *really* hope you're playing devils advocate.

Edited by xFrockx (11/23/07 11:43 PM)

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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: xFrockx]
    #7672994 - 11/23/07 11:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

I *really* hope you're playing devils advocate.




And what do you think my position is on the issue?


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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: xFrockx]
    #7673002 - 11/24/07 12:02 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Orgone is pretty much always playing devil's advocate. He likes to push people into a corner where the only ways out are to get angry and emotional, or to back up thier opinion with fact. I think it's quite clear that your arguments are strong and that conservapedia is a pile of ideological nonsense. Don't let him get under your skin. :smirk:

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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7673003 - 11/24/07 12:03 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I don't really know honestly.  Does it matter?  Either way you haven't really come up with much to counter me.  I figure if you really did believe in this nonsense you'd at least have a volume of decent facts that might catch me off guard.  You still have time though :smile:

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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #7673005 - 11/24/07 12:04 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I figured with the avatar that he was. Unfortunately for him I love being pushed over the edge, especially when stuck at home without any pot. It gives me quite an outlet for all this pent up energy, lol.

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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #7673014 - 11/24/07 12:11 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Push people into a corner? Make someone emotional? I do not have the kind of power you assign to me.

My dear, there is always the IGNORE button or a zillion other sites and threads to explore. Of course, one could turn off the computer.


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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7673076 - 11/24/07 12:40 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

True, true. But who doesn't love a challenge? Dear sir, would you step down from a duel? I think not.

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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #7673078 - 11/24/07 12:40 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

On a side note, Freud would have a field day with those search statistics.


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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7673080 - 11/24/07 12:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

OrgoneConclusion said:
Push people into a corner? Make someone emotional? I do not have the kind of power you assign to me.

My dear, there is always the IGNORE button or a zillion other sites and threads to explore. Of course, one could turn off the computer.



*Presses ignore button*
It's not that you aren't making a valid point. However, the statistics are twisted. For instance, the stats on HIV and how it is "gay disease", which is completely incorrect. Also, the portions about homosexuality as a choice are especially stupid. Few if any people choose their feelings or attractions. The fact is some facts presented, I agree are correct, but others are twisted to fit their agenda. You can choose data to support anything, but it doesn't necessarily make it correct.

No one can easily explain what causes homosexuality. It may or may not be sin, and I don't believe it is. However, the point is why is this derisive stuff needed? Couldn't they portray homosexuals in a loving light, and not as if they are out to crucify Jesus for their own pleasure? If homosexuals are evil sinners, then offering help and love will be the only way to help it. Obviously these people don't have a clue about what love is, or at least they don't understand tolerance and the goodness of diversity.

If you can't realize what is retrograde to what most theists say they believe and subsequently do, then you must realize the absurdity of these articles.

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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: Silversoul]
    #7673081 - 11/24/07 12:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:lol: Indeed!

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Re: Conservapedia most viewed statistics. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7673995 - 11/24/07 09:39 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

You sure love the Socratic method, don't you? :wink:

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