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Casing
    #7667456 - 11/22/07 04:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I have 12 jars colonizing right now and I am planning on casing one strain and dunk and rolling the other. I have 6 Cambodian and 6 Ecuador. Does anyone have any suggestions of what strain to case and which to dunk and roll? I am also wondering if your dunk and roll before you crumble the cakes to make a casing or just dunk to fruit the cakes?


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Re: Casing [Re: ShRm22]
    #7667462 - 11/22/07 04:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Casing [Re: ShRm22]
    #7667844 - 11/22/07 06:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Well, from mu personal experience, I have never dunked and rolled my cakes that I crumbled and cased. For the ones that I cased (1/2 pt brf/verm, B+) I just birthed them, cleaned off the verm layer on top of the cakes, placed them in a ziplock baggie, and then broke them up really good. I've had great success doing this. However, I have seen and heard of people that dunk their cakes before crumbling. If you do dunk them, there's no need to roll them in dry verm before you crumble them. Personally, I would just birth them and then crumble them. No need to dunk them. The crumbled cakes are going to receive the moisture they need from your casing material and from misting, as long as your casing material is prepared correctly.

As far as which strain to crumble and which one to do as cakes, it really doesn't make much difference. If you wanted, you might take a look at the strain thread and read up on the growth characteristics of each of the strains. I've personally not worked with either Equador or Cambodian. I'm not sure about your experience with growing, but if you've never done casings before, they really aren't that difficult. When I first started, I did cakes and casings from the start and found that casing my chosen substrate, it really wasn't that hard at all.

One thing you may want to consider though, is that chances are you are going to get better yields by casing your crumbled cakes as compared to just doing cakes. At least that has been my experience. So, if you are a little more partial to one of the two strains that you have, you may want to case the strain that you like more. That way, as long as all your grow is done properly, you will receive a better yield of your favorite strain. I got some decent results from my cakes, but I didn't get anywhere close to the yield that I got from casing crumbled cakes. I would crumble either 2 or 3 cakes for one casing. And if I compared the yield from those 3 crumbled and cased cakes to the yield of just 3 cakes, the casing produced much more!

Remember, if you do dunk your cakes before you crumble them, you don't need to roll them in verm before crumbling them. I hope this helps you out. If you have any more questions, feel free to hit me up. Good luck


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Re: Casing [Re: juris1]
    #7677531 - 11/25/07 11:02 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Juris, thanks for they great post. This is my first grow but I have been educating myself on here and I believe that I could do casings without error. After reading about your great yields I might just case both of the strains and see how that works. I just have another question, after the jars are 100% colonized, do I wait a week before taking them out of the jars and crumbling them? Also, I have 12 jars that will be fully colonized maybe in 2 days, how many casings would I be able to make from them? Thanks again for your great help.


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Re: Casing [Re: juris1]
    #7677628 - 11/25/07 11:48 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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. I got some decent results from my cakes, but I didn't get anywhere close to the yield that I got from casing crumbled cakes. I would crumble either 2 or 3 cakes for one casing. And if I compared the yield from those 3 crumbled and cased cakes to the yield of just 3 cakes, the casing produced much more!





That isn't really true. Experiments have been made many times and the conclusion is that weight wise in the end yield is the same if you case cakes or just dunk and roll, which makes sense as you are not adding any more nutes. Only difference is that cakes have smaller flushes but more of them, and in the end the weights are the same.

Also, casing poses a new contamination risk.

Read the link i posted above for more info.


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