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Meth - please explain to me.
    #7667061 - 11/22/07 01:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I have been reading a number or exercise articles and they all seem subscribe to the same refrain; eat or everything kills you off.

Okay, well I have known a number of addicts (myself included) that have just lost a great deal of weight because of their drug use....and not eating.

So, is it just no hunger / not eating that is making the weight that is eating the fat off of them. Or does the drug itself have ANYTHING to do with helping the metabolism and eating?

I just wanted to know, because every doc, of any flavor all say the same thing. To be honest I am getting sick about it, I am starting to think that, that rule is in place just because there are shortcuts through the fray and they the dedicated straight and narrow path is the only way at all and don't want you to know......


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: Army of None]
    #7667073 - 11/22/07 01:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Pretty sure the speeding up of the system has something to do with metabolism on top of the not eating, but only pretty sure.


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: Brugman]
    #7667080 - 11/22/07 01:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Staying up for long periods of time will cause the body to work harder.

Not eating causes malnutrition, causing weight loss.


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: vandago]
    #7667094 - 11/22/07 01:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

well being a tweaked out junkie is not healthy you probably are not eating right cause your spending all your money and meth. Call me judgemental I dont care that is gutter shit man.


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: GbBaker]
    #7667105 - 11/22/07 01:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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well being a tweaked out junkie is not healthy you probably are not eating right cause your spending all your money and meth. Call me judgemental I dont care that is gutter shit man.




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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: GbBaker]
    #7667167 - 11/22/07 02:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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well being a tweaked out junkie is not healthy you probably are not eating right cause your spending all your money and meth. Call me judgemental I dont care that is gutter shit man.




yet you still troll a drug based board?......your cool. I don't care much for you either. I am trying to get some info to help out a friend out of the gutter where he could quite possibly maximize his strengths and take your job away from you some day. Is that what you are afraid of?


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: Army of None]
    #7667280 - 11/22/07 03:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

*Mushroom based board
If you want to help your friend tell him to get off teh meth


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: Shroomism]
    #7667282 - 11/22/07 03:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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*Mushroom based board
If you want to help your friend tell him to get off teh meth




Won't find many meth sympathizers here.


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: Shroomism]
    #7667286 - 11/22/07 03:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

No, this is a drug based board. Not specific to shrooms.


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: Shroomism]
    #7667288 - 11/22/07 03:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

what the fuck is happening. this thread sucks.


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: Rustifer]
    #7667294 - 11/22/07 03:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It's called the Shroomery, not the Drugery. and there are 6+ forums specifically dedicated to the cultivation of mushrooms for a reason.

Either way, most people here are into the psychedelics, but you wont find many meth sympathizers as Brugman stated.


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: Shroomism]
    #7667306 - 11/22/07 03:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

There's also 3 forums for drugs other than mushrooms, therefore undedicating the site to solely mushrooms.


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: GbBaker]
    #7667317 - 11/22/07 03:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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well being a tweaked out junkie is not healthy you probably are not eating right cause your spending all your money and meth. Call me judgemental I dont care that is gutter shit man.




i agree, call me judgmental also but i really don't sympathize with methamphetamine users/addicts. that drug has had a huge negative affect my own life and a few of my buddies, and none of us use.

you lose weight because you do an upper that tweaks you for a whole damn day. it honestly isn't science.
my advice to OP: dislike meth and start loving beer and pot a lot more. you'll gain weight.


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: zSDMF]
    #7667325 - 11/22/07 03:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

its ok to not sympathize with them, but everyone should realize that they could get addicted just as easily.


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: Army of None]
    #7667327 - 11/22/07 03:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The only thing I don't like about the stuff is when friends decide to do it and stop over at your house at 3 in the morning wanting to show you this really neat little thing they learned on guitar and how it's really going to take them places. I don't have any meth head friends anymore. I've tried it about 4 times over the last 6 years and totally did not think it was worth it, I always felt like I was on borrowed energy when I did it.


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: Riboflavin]
    #7667329 - 11/22/07 03:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I just look at what goes into making it - that's enough to prevent me from using it.


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: usefulidiot13]
    #7667332 - 11/22/07 03:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

This belongs to the Other Drugs Discussion.


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: Shroomism]
    #7667335 - 11/22/07 03:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Well it's not like it's impossible to make the stuff clean if someone wanted to put in the time and effort, or is it?


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: Riboflavin]
    #7667339 - 11/22/07 03:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know. I'm sure a laboratory could do it. Hell, they make adderall.

But I somehow doubt your average meth producer is going to be taking steps neccessary to ensure a clean product.


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: Shroomism]
    #7667343 - 11/22/07 03:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Look guys, I hear you I really do and I agree. It's my buddy that is doing all of this crap and I wanted to have some research handy to point out is all.

I do not possess a great deal of knowledge of and for illicit drugs myself. Besides shrooms and alcohol.....my only answers.

Thanks you all for the words of encouragement and the words of tough love from everyone.


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: Riboflavin]
    #7667344 - 11/22/07 03:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

definitely not.  clean meth is/was made via prescription.  i know i'm being stereotypical when i say this, but all meth addicts i've ran into.. but if they use enough to actually start dropping serious weight, they liked to do things like steal, habitually lie about everything, not give a fuck about friends/family.. etc.

meth is, to me, the worst and nastiest drug in existance.  it has ruined a few good friends of mine.

sorry to meth people who get offended online :frown:
i'm just passionate about disliking meth ^_^


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: Army of None]
    #7667353 - 11/22/07 03:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

did not mean to sound offensive at first but if you really want help, bring him on a trip or something, bring him somewhere neat. If you can ski/snowboard go do that in alaska or colorado. I dont know never dealt with junkies before. Even go to the tropics but then again thats money.


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: Army of None]
    #7667360 - 11/22/07 03:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Well.. in response to your original question:
I am certainly no meth expert.. but I would make an educated guess that the wait loss has multiple reasons:
1) You lose your appetite on meth, thus less eating
2) Meth causes heart rate/blood pressure/metabolism to rise significantly and subsequently increases stress on the body and the burning of fat and calories. Not sure on that but it's my best guess.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/meth/meth.shtml
Would probably be your best bet.


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: Army of None]
    #7667367 - 11/22/07 03:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

meth, FTL


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: zSDMF]
    #7667377 - 11/22/07 03:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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definitely not.  clean meth is/was made via prescription.  i know i'm being stereotypical when i say this, but all meth addicts i've ran into.. but if they use enough to actually start dropping serious weight, they liked to do things like steal, habitually lie about everything, not give a fuck about friends/family.. etc.

meth is, to me, the worst and nastiest drug in existance.  it has ruined a few good friends of mine.

sorry to meth people who get offended online :frown:
i'm just passionate about disliking meth ^_^




its all good baby, I understand where you are coming from as a matter of fact I have experienced many of the things you mentioned, that of a drug addict.

I simply wanted to be able to beat his chess game that will be played out once I bring this to light fore him. Normally I would just go and say "dude this shit sucks, lets do something else with your time" but the result is usually that he is too tired, or exhausted to do anything.

At any rate, I think that shrooms are way less dangerous than alcohol but then the docs tell me that they are all the same....

I dunno, you should see this guy. NOT NORMAL. at all.

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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: Army of None]
    #7667424 - 11/22/07 04:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

the docs are just talking out their asses about shrooms then. mushrooms are much physically safer than alcohol!


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    #7667916 - 11/22/07 07:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Making extremely clean methamphetamine isn't out of the reach of your home brew meth cooks.
It really is an easy thing to make and it doesn't require much more effort to produce superb meth clean of impurities than it does to make the so called "bath tub" crank.

The only problem is that most people just don't care if the drugs they are selling are clean or safe.


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: MrKite1]
    #7667931 - 11/22/07 07:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Making extremely clean methamphetamine isn't out of the reach of your home brew meth cooks.
It really is an easy thing to make and it doesn't require much more effort to produce superb meth clean of impurities than it does to make the so called "bath tub" crank.

The only problem is that most people just don't care if the drugs they are selling are clean or safe.




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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: Army of None]
    #7668006 - 11/22/07 07:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Fuckin meth heads, so pathetic and disgusting


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: zSDMF]
    #12509261 - 05/05/10 06:58 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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definitely not.  clean meth is/was made via prescription.  i know i'm being stereotypical when i say this, but all meth addicts i've ran into.. but if they use enough to actually start dropping serious weight, they liked to do things like steal, habitually lie about everything, not give a fuck about friends/family.. etc.

meth is, to me, the worst and nastiest drug in existance.  it has ruined a few good friends of mine.

sorry to meth people who get offended online :frown:
i'm just passionate about disliking meth ^_^




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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: zSDMF]
    #12509263 - 05/05/10 06:59 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

man I was gay 2 years ago


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: zSDMF]
    #12509284 - 05/05/10 07:05 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

why do you say that?  do you do meth now?


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #12509285 - 05/05/10 07:06 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

:lol:

nah I still agree with everything I said.. but yeah, I have tried meth and it's not so bad.


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: zSDMF]
    #12509288 - 05/05/10 07:07 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

it's funny because last night I was telling someone about how I used to rant about how shitty amps were for years until I actually got high on meth.  now I have a post to reference :hippie:


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: zSDMF]
    #12509289 - 05/05/10 07:10 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

It's easy ranting about things you haven't done yourself. :wink:

C'mon Shroomery, I thought you were the people accepting of everything and seeing through all the propaganda your government shoves up in your faces...

Amphetamines rock :thumbup:


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: zSDMF]
    #12509294 - 05/05/10 07:11 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

haha.  it makes sense that you tried it and it wasn't so bad.  that's why people keep doing it... because they enjoy it.

it is a shitty drug though.  i haven't any interest in it myself.  though i did try some shitty speed in portugal.  didn't do much for me, and i'm glad.  i would never had done it if i weren't fucked up drunk and surrounded by kids doing it.


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #12509300 - 05/05/10 07:13 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, its a tricky one... not so bad if you can manage to not do it all the time, but its really not an easy thing to do unless you don't have access or money.  I hope coasty learns a bunch of moderation with the shit or else dark times are in his future :/


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: zSDMF]
    #12509311 - 05/05/10 07:18 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

There is prescription amphs you guys use and there is meth.

Isn't there street speed as well? You know, amphetamine sulphate; levo/dexamphetamine 73 procent. Sold wet or in powder. If cut usually with caffeine/D-manitol. Glad I can get samples tested here in Holland but I've got GREAT speed :thumbup:

Crazy americans :crazy2:


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    #12509320 - 05/05/10 07:21 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

nah meth is our street speed, its usually a pretty high percentage and pretty damn good quality unless your cook/dealer cuts it.  chances are if you are buying amps on the street its locally cooked meth.  the mexican mafia runs speed as well, as does some bikers.. but most speed it seems like is cooked locally.

and no we don't have that amphetamine paste/putty you are talking about.  I want to try some I heard its great.


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: zSDMF]
    #12509335 - 05/05/10 07:24 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Damn that's such a shame.


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Re: Meth - please explain to me. [Re: Beanhead]
    #12509370 - 05/05/10 07:34 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

nah, not so bad.  meth FTW


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