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Who's RAW here?
    #7666811 - 11/22/07 12:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Anyone only eat raw (like uncooked vegetables/fruits/nuts/etc)? I've been eating raw in between fasts recently and I love it. I feel pretty good about it. I was reviewing recipes online for the raw diet and the options seem endless. Lots of fun.

Note: I am not talking about raw meat.

So anyone here have a raw diet?


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: MOTH]
    #7666816 - 11/22/07 12:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I only eat raw vegetables. I don't like steamed, boiled or baked aside from stuffed peppers.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: Stein]
    #7667171 - 11/22/07 02:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Fresh, raw green beans are awesome... but yeah saute them in some olive oil, butter, salt and pepper...... mmmm :smile: (maybe throw in some caramelized onions :laugh:


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: MOTH]
    #7667412 - 11/22/07 04:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'll eat just about anything raw with a very few exceptions..
Potatoes being one of them

I like my fish raw.


I've just recently learned about raw milk. I used to think all milk was bad for you healthwise, but I learned that I was sadly mistaken.. it's actually the pasteurization/homogenization process of milk that kills off all the beneficial bacteria/helpful enzymes/essential acids, etc. And that raw milk naturally contains all the enzymes to properly digest it, but pastuerized milk does not. Hence most people who are "lactose intolerant" are only that way because their body cannot digest pasteurized milk, but they can drink raw milk/raw milk products absolutely fine. Also mentions that the cow's diet is very important.. cows that eat mostly grain and are given hormone treatments etc.. produce a very poor and unhealthy milk. Cows that eat mostly grass and a natural diet (free of pesticides/hormones/etc) produce the best quality milk that is loaded with the natural antibiotics and essential acids we need.

Anyway, I'm having a hell of a time finding natural raw milk around here.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: Stein]
    #7668712 - 11/22/07 11:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

:smile: i couldn't really imagine that, i like veggies grilled, but yea raw with some olive oil, butter, and seasonings :thumbup:

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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: MOTH]
    #7668936 - 11/23/07 01:23 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I have considered trying it out. A lot of articles and studies show that natural enzymes lost in cooking food are better for our bodies than the stuff they pump into products.

Have you noticed any physical or mental differences? Any performance increase athletically?


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: AaronEvil]
    #7669513 - 11/23/07 08:41 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Mentally, I am clearer, have better memory, and am much more emotionally stable. That might be because of the fasting though. I am a pretty physical person and still manage to go to the gym 3-5 times a week and do an hour of yoga daily.

I get most of my information from goneraw.com. They have great recipes there!


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: MOTH]
    #7669622 - 11/23/07 09:51 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i love raw food, however i just cant do it exclusively. i eat raw alot though.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7670014 - 11/23/07 11:20 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I like raw fish, raw beef, raw apples, raw oranges, raw celery, and raw fucking cherries. Oh and what the hell, carrots, peppers, and shit too.

Its fucking good.

Interesting shit on the raw milk dude who posted it. I want some fucking raw milk, but I have no idea how to get it...isn't it a matter of federal law that r3quires all dairy products produced in the US be pasturized?

Raw tomatoes are good too. And peaches and grapes and pears and plums and pistachios and peanuts and you.

I'll eat you raw.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #7670296 - 11/23/07 12:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Wow, you eat raw beef? That's pretty interesting. I started feeding my dog raw meaty bones about six months ago and his health has improved dramatically. I haven't heard of humans doing it though.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: MOTH]
    #7670327 - 11/23/07 12:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Mmmm deep fried creme cheese stuffed jalepanos... far from healthy.


I do like raw vegetables, but I don't eat them consistantly, i like their taste but don't like their texture. O_o


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #7672230 - 11/23/07 07:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I like raw fish, raw beef, raw apples, raw oranges, raw celery, and raw fucking cherries.  Oh and what the hell, carrots, peppers, and shit too.

Its fucking good.

Interesting shit on the raw milk dude who posted it.  I want some fucking raw milk, but I have no idea how to get it...isn't it a matter of federal law that r3quires all dairy products produced in the US be pasturized?

Raw tomatoes are good too.  And peaches and grapes and pears and plums and pistachios and peanuts and you.

I'll eat you raw.




i dont eat beef anymore, however when i did eat steak, it would have to be pretty bloody still. i hate overly cooked meat.

oh and if you want real milk, its not for you, its for "your pets" :smile:

http://www.realmilk.com/where2.html

i fucking love raw milk. once you go raw, you never go back. its SOO much better than the shit at the store. i dont drink dairy anymore though, i drink goat milk. much better for you. sweeter too :smile:


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7672577 - 11/23/07 09:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Isnt goat milk still dairy?


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: MOTH]
    #7673710 - 11/24/07 07:12 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Man, I love goji berries! And fresh cantalope.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #7673914 - 11/24/07 08:58 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Interesting shit on the raw milk dude who posted it. I want some fucking raw milk, but I have no idea how to get it...isn't it a matter of federal law that r3quires all dairy products produced in the US be pasturized?





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Sales of raw milk are legal in 28 out of 50 US states, which is better than half.




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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: MOTH]
    #7674018 - 11/24/07 09:48 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Wow, you eat raw beef? That's pretty interesting. I started feeding my dog raw meaty bones about six months ago and his health has improved dramatically. I haven't heard of humans doing it though.




I don't eat it very often honestly but it is quite delicious and considered a delicacy if prepared properly.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #7674145 - 11/24/07 10:54 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Darnit! I thought this was going to be a thread about Robert Anton Wilson. I'd better get back to my BBQ!


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: AaronEvil]
    #7676147 - 11/24/07 09:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Isnt goat milk still dairy?




i donno, is it? i always thought dairy was strictly cow.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: MOTH]
    #7676163 - 11/24/07 09:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Man, I love goji berries! And fresh cantalope.




goji berries are awesome! i eat a cup of them just about every day.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7676171 - 11/24/07 09:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I got a strange reaction from them today...almost felt high.  I ate a bunch of holiday cheesecake too, not exactly raw. :wink:


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: MOTH]
    #7676186 - 11/24/07 09:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

well everyone cheats from time to time :smile: well if you felt high, id say thats a good reaction :smile:

speaking of which, im doing a cayenne, lemon and apple cider vinegar flush tonight, about 2 tablespoons of cayenne. i feel high. maybe its just because im so flush. im sweating my ass off! lol.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: MOTH]
    #7676855 - 11/25/07 03:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

id say about less then %2 of the nation(USandA) eats over 90% of their diet RAW.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: Pycnogenol]
    #7677530 - 11/25/07 11:02 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, it's SAD!  (Standard American Diet :wink: )

The opposite of what the masses tend to do always works out well for me.  I first heard about RAW whenever I was a teenager and I was intrigued, but so addicted to the food I was eating with the SAD that I could't imagine it working out for me.  WEll, 7 years later, I'm about 60-70% Raw now, and working to get up to 100%.  I just feel better the more RAW stuff I eat.  It feels the most natural for me. 

I digest RAW stuff so much better too.  I deviated from RAW yesterday because of a party (ate lots of carbs, salts and sweets) and as a result last night I woke up puking.  My body totally rejected all that stuff because it knew. 

So yeah...I am a fan, as you can tell.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: MOTH]
    #7677580 - 11/25/07 11:20 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I like my poon raw. =D


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: snoot]
    #7678472 - 11/25/07 03:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Rawr


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: MOTH]
    #7683131 - 11/26/07 07:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

read the book Mucusless Diet Healing System by Professor Arnold Erhet.

It explains how most food that is considered good (meat, dairy, etc) actually is the main cause for most diseases including cancer and even mental disorders.

Im trying his diet out and it has you eat only fruit and vegies with no starch (ie potatoes)

what my diet is right now is in the morning i eat a couple different kinds of dried fruits and raisins, then during the day i eat sunflower seeds, and for lunch i eat a salad with tomatoes and a homemade dressing with olive oil, lemon juice, papikra, and honey, then i eat a toasted peice of bread with jam on it. then for dinner i eat 3 bananas and some apple sauce and before i go to bed eat some tomato soup... so far i feel really good and i think ill continue with this.

humans are not carnivorous at all, look at our ancestors the apes, they eat only fruits and leaves and shit


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: AliceDee]
    #7685138 - 11/27/07 09:23 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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humans are not carnivorous at all, look at our ancestors the apes, they eat only fruits and leaves and shit




That's not true:

Looking at Ape Diets--Myths, Realities, and Rationalizations

Apes eat meat, including other apes and monkeys.

Here's a quote:

M: Apes are fruitarians (or peaceful vegans).
M: Fruitarianism (or veganism) is our natural diet.

R: The above myths were debunked by Ward Nicholson in a superbly researched interview in Health & Beyond (the 10/96, 12/96, 1/97 issues, now available on this site), which should be essential reading for all rawists. Also, there are two email lists on Internet that address this topic--the Paleodiet and Paleofood lists. The reality is that all the large primates are omnivores, as they all eat insects and some eat flesh. The chimpanzee society is marked by violence: war, incest, murder, cannibalism. So much for "peaceful vegan" chimps! (A more accurate description would be "occasionally violent, omnivore chimps.")

The fossil record clearly shows that our prehistoric ancestors were omnivores; they ate both plant and animal foods. They were not vegans, fruitarians, or even vegetarians.

P.S. (1) Some fruitarians are in denial regarding the above. Some fruitarians try to counter the above with misinformation. Be skeptical of counter-arguments, and look up/check all references cited in counter-arguments! (2) Some conventional vegans have integrity and admit that, biologically, humans are natural omnivores. See anatomist John McArdle, Ph.D.'s article "Humans are Omnivores," in The Vegan Handbook for more info.

M: But mountain gorillas are vegans!

R: Not really; they have been observed deliberately eating driver ants, and they also consume considerable insects on the leaves that are the major part of their diet. Given that many vegans reject honey, avoid foods colored with cochineal (a dye made of ground insects), and get all grossed-out by descriptions of humans consuming insects (common in many hunter-gatherer societies), it is reasonable to say that an ape that deliberately eats ants is not a vegan, even if ants are a small part of their diet.

Reference: Watts, D.P. (1989) "Ant-eating behavior of mountain gorillas." Primates, vol. 30, no. 1, pp. 121-126.

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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: BrandNoob]
    #7685260 - 11/27/07 09:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #7686007 - 11/27/07 01:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The argument that we are naturally vegan because apes are is flawed anyway because it assumes that we are direct descendants of apes which is unprovable through the scientific method...

It also assumes that from an evolutionary standpoint we share all attributes from our ancestors which is obviously untrue because we are not apes...There are quite a few differences between humans and apes, so by what reasoning does our diet have to be consistent?

You want human ancestors, look at ancient Greeks.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #7686931 - 11/27/07 04:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Interesting info...

I just stick to the light stuff (no meat/carbs/dairy) because that's what feels better to my body.  :smile:  I have a very sensitive belly these days and it cannot handle anything heavily fatty or processed.  Fruits, nuts and vegetables just feel so good in there compared to anything else.  Helps me feel light.

Different strokes for different apes --err, folks.  :wink:


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: MOTH]
    #7687622 - 11/27/07 06:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

So, for those who eat raw, where do you get your main source of energy from? Where do you get your complex carbs from?


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: BrandNoob]
    #7693218 - 11/28/07 11:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, saying our ancestors were any sort of fanatical extreme in their diet is ridiculous! They were probably very hungry much of the time and ate what they could. Frutarian cave men? come on! Maybe in the garden of eden...

Aside from all that I do abstain from meat and moderate my diet as Moth mentioned, because it makes me feel good and I'm healthy to boot.

leftysurprise - where do you get your goji berries cheap enough to eat that many?? or does your exquisite health afford you an extraordinary intellect funneling income from two dozen sources?

Once I started reading about raw food I was immediately captured and have since started eating many more raw foods. I hope to go mostly raw someday, but I think that day is far off.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: fazdazzle]
    #7693618 - 11/29/07 03:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The RAW people I talk to say to transition gradually...for many it takes about a year or two to get to 100% raw (my goal), and they say that if you have a craving for a non-raw food during the transition that you should just eat it. There is a lot of detox that happens when you start eating raw foods and shifting away in dramatic fashion from the heavy-greasy stuff you're familiar with can be uncomfortable so you don't want to feel like you're depriving yourself, especially in the beginning. Many rawfoodists eat a lot of nuts and other fatty raw foods like avocados in the beginning of their transition, and then a while later find that they don't need that fat anymore. Also I hear that if you eat lots more greens (like kale and spinach) that this eliminates fat cravings.

To the poster who asked about nutrition: You can get energy from anything raw, especially nutrient dense foods like germinated nuts, seeds and grains. You soak them and prepare them appropriately in raw breads, crackers and other dishes; there are a ton of raw recipes out there. Where you get your "main source of energy" from varies from person to person, in my experience. I get energy from everything I eat, and when I'm not eating (fasting) it comes from the stores available in my body.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #7694393 - 11/29/07 11:00 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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The argument that we are naturally vegan because apes are is flawed anyway because it assumes that we are direct descendants of apes which is unprovable through the scientific method...




Not to mention that primates (including apes) will naturally hunt, kill, and eat meat if available. This behavior is will documented.

Is anything in science actually provable? I don't want to get into a semantics debate, but there is a massive amount of evidence that indicates humans and modern primates evolved from a common ancestor at some point. To the contrary, there is little to no evidence that indicates that humans and modern primates did not evolve from a common ancestor. Of course, this could change tomorrow, should somebody make a ground breaking discovery, but for now, from a science point of view, there is little doubt.

> Also I hear that if you eat lots more greens (like kale and spinach) that this eliminates fat cravings.

When I stopped eating meat, I eventually learned to listen to my body and to identify what I was craving. People always looked at me kinda funny when I would be eating dill pickles and ice cream, but hey, it scratched the itch and that is all that really mattered.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: Seuss]
    #7694528 - 11/29/07 11:50 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

well look at our teeth, do they resemble that of a carnivorous animal??? also we must cook our meet to eat it, carnivores eat all their meat raw...

sure we CAN eat meat, cows are fed other cows in their food aswell but that doesnt mean they naturally do that..


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: Seuss]
    #7694767 - 11/29/07 01:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You should petition Ben & Jerry's to create a dill pickle ice cream for ya! :smile:
I'd imagine it'd go the way of their Peanut Butter & Jelly flavor concoction...

Raw foods, hrmm.. I have to say, this thread has been getting in my head since it was first posted!  I've been making conscious decisions to eat more raw food, particularly pistachio nuts, macadamias, avocado, lettuce, tomato, apples, and kiwi.  Does beef jerky count as raw? 

Either way, I just can't see myself to be cutting meats and deep fried goodness out of my diet entirely.  It's all just too tasty! 

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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: Seuss]
    #7694931 - 11/29/07 01:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Is anything provable? Yeah, through the scientific method, lots of things are.

Theories like evolution, however, are not...there is no way to experiment.

So, what we have, is a strong, practical, socially-accepted explanation for how we came to be. This, however, does not make it a scientific certainty and therefore any argument made with an evolutionary postulate is flawed.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: AliceDee]
    #7694935 - 11/29/07 01:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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well look at our teeth, do they resemble that of a carnivorous animal??? also we must cook our meet to eat it, carnivores eat all their meat raw...

sure we CAN eat meat, cows are fed other cows in their food aswell but that doesnt mean they naturally do that..




WE can eat meat. We even have natural enzymes that break down meat through the digestion process and utilize the proteins offered.

We do not have to cook meat. People eat raw fish all the time and some of us even eat raw beef.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: fazdazzle]
    #7695270 - 11/29/07 03:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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leftysurprise - where do you get your goji berries cheap enough to eat that many?? or does your exquisite health afford you an extraordinary intellect funneling income from two dozen sources?





there is an asian market near my house that sells them by the pound, i cant remembe the price, but its pretty cheap compared to health food stores. theyre not organic or anything, but theyre still goji berries :smile:


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: AliceDee]
    #7695295 - 11/29/07 03:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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well look at our teeth, do they resemble that of a carnivorous animal??? also we must cook our meet to eat it, carnivores eat all their meat raw...

sure we CAN eat meat, cows are fed other cows in their food aswell but that doesnt mean they naturally do that..




they resemble an OMNIVOROUS animal. we have teeth for chewing, cutting and tearing. we can eat anything.

we do NOT have to cook our meat to eat it. only the poor quality meat that you buy in a grocery store. i eat most of my seafood raw.

diet is a choice. it all depends on just how healthy you want to be. some have no problem sacrificing health for "better tasting" food.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #7695384 - 11/29/07 03:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

my ganny eats raw hamburger all the time

its really gross watching an old fat lady gobble down the raw hamboogie


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: sucklesworth]
    #7695930 - 11/29/07 05:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Anyone care to post some links that they found useful in switching to a raw diet? This thread has really piqued my interest and it would be cool to read further from a knowledgeable source on the matter. Thanks much.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: hokusai]
    #7696175 - 11/29/07 06:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i just googled around for a while. it wont take you long. i also learned alot from my book on the paleo diet.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: hokusai]
    #7696592 - 11/29/07 07:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Here ya go:

I absolutely LOVE this site...check out the recipe section and the forums...awesome info and friendly group of people.  Note, the sites I am posting are for raw vegans, although there are many different types of raw diets. 

http://goneraw.com/

And then this site has some general information about being "purely raw vegan" and I truly enjoyed looking around. 

http://www.purelyraw.com/index.htm

There are lots more sites online, but I like those two right now. 

Good luck.  :heart:

And yeah, I think beef jerky still classifies as "raw" because it is dehydrated, not cooked.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7697445 - 11/30/07 01:08 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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leftysurprise - where do you get your goji berries cheap enough to eat that many?? or does your exquisite health afford you an extraordinary intellect funneling income from two dozen sources?





there is an asian market near my house that sells them by the pound, i cant remembe the price, but its pretty cheap compared to health food stores. theyre not organic or anything, but theyre still goji berries :smile:




Ohh yeah I suppose! I seem to automatically think organic when it comes to these obscure items. Either way I bought about a quarter pound from the local co-op at 11.99/lb. today to snack on. I added about 6 to a cup of green tea which added a very vague flavor that I couldn't quite identify, but I ate them after the cup and found they were slightly sweet & bitter - odd combination!

Moth - I looked at the first website you mentioned and it just made me want to go raw even more! I think I'll make a few smoothies and see what happens from there. I've read that to make proper smoothies you should use a really advanced blender like blend-tec, but they're ridiculously expensive, so do you think I'd be fine with a basic blender?

Have any of you who eat mostly raw find it to be an expensive diet? A coworker of mine said she was raw for a while; though she felt great it winded up costing too much to continue.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: fazdazzle]
    #7699831 - 11/30/07 04:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

On the blender; many people use cheap blenders for RAW foods.  I know I do.  :smile:  You gotta work with what you got. 

As for price, do a search on goneraw for advice on how to eat RAW cheap and within a budget.  There are some good suggestions on there.  And also, organic raw foods might seem more expensive, but in my opinion it's so worth it.  My health is worth it and I only want the highest quality products going into my body.  :smile:


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: fazdazzle]
    #7701253 - 11/30/07 10:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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leftysurprise - where do you get your goji berries cheap enough to eat that many?? or does your exquisite health afford you an extraordinary intellect funneling income from two dozen sources?





there is an asian market near my house that sells them by the pound, i cant remembe the price, but its pretty cheap compared to health food stores. theyre not organic or anything, but theyre still goji berries :smile:




Ohh yeah I suppose! I seem to automatically think organic when it comes to these obscure items. Either way I bought about a quarter pound from the local co-op at 11.99/lb. today to snack on. I added about 6 to a cup of green tea which added a very vague flavor that I couldn't quite identify, but I ate them after the cup and found they were slightly sweet & bitter - odd combination!

Moth - I looked at the first website you mentioned and it just made me want to go raw even more! I think I'll make a few smoothies and see what happens from there. I've read that to make proper smoothies you should use a really advanced blender like blend-tec, but they're ridiculously expensive, so do you think I'd be fine with a basic blender?

Have any of you who eat mostly raw find it to be an expensive diet? A coworker of mine said she was raw for a while; though she felt great it winded up costing too much to continue.




oh man, you stumbled onto one of my favorite tea additions! i found that a spoonfull of goji berries in a cup of either green or white tea is the shit!

i dont know how your co-worker found it was more expensive. it costs no more than normal. actually you save money on electricity or gas. if you can grow some of your food yourself youll save even more.

and IMO, no price is too much for better health. cut back on spending elsewhere if need be. your health is the most important thing in this life. without it life wont be as long.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7702434 - 12/01/07 11:18 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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your health is the most important thing in this life. without it life wont be as long.




Not to argue too much, but I would prefer a short beach vacation to a long stay in Gitmo. I guess it all depends on your perspective.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: BrandNoob]
    #7703042 - 12/01/07 02:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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your health is the most important thing in this life. without it life wont be as long.




Not to argue too much, but I would prefer a short beach vacation to a long stay in Gitmo.  I guess it all depends on your perspective.




ive been making a habit of turning my lemons into lemonade :smile:


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7703401 - 12/01/07 04:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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ive been making a habit of turning my lemons into lemonade :smile:




That explains why my coffee tastes so bad lately.

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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7703417 - 12/01/07 04:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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i dont know how your co-worker found it was more expensive. it costs no more than normal. actually you save money on electricity or gas. if you can grow some of your food yourself youll save even more.





I don't know either...I was pretty skeptical that it would make much of a difference, which is why I asked.

The only reason I could think of was that when I look at raw food recipes they always seem to include really rare thus expensive items.

Oh and here's a pretty interesting website about raw paleo diets:

http://www.rawpaleodiet.org/

He also has a page dedicated to sun gazing, which is really interesting too.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: BrandNoob]
    #7703532 - 12/01/07 05:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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ive been making a habit of turning my lemons into lemonade :smile:




That explains why my coffee tastes so bad lately.

(dumb joke, couldn't help myself)




lol. made me chuckle.


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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: fazdazzle]
    #7703567 - 12/01/07 05:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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i dont know how your co-worker found it was more expensive. it costs no more than normal. actually you save money on electricity or gas. if you can grow some of your food yourself youll save even more.





I don't know either...I was pretty skeptical that it would make much of a difference, which is why I asked.

The only reason I could think of was that when I look at raw food recipes they always seem to include really rare thus expensive items.

Oh and here's a pretty interesting website about raw paleo diets:

http://www.rawpaleodiet.org/

He also has a page dedicated to sun gazing, which is really interesting too.




thanx for the link. :smile: ive been trying to shape my diets more after the paleo diet. ive got a book, and two more im about to order from half.com.

i think what your co-worker might have meant was it was considerably more expensive switching to an all organic diet. if you buy nothing but organic from the grocery stores, then yes, its quite a bit more expensive. i buy as much as i can from local organic growers, and whatever else i need i just buy regular from the store.

i look at it this way. organic is better than regular produce and regular produce is better than the average american diet.

buy what you can. be as healthy as you can be on your budget. i cannot wait until me and my girlfriend get a house so i can start a decent garden up again. right now i can only grow so much out back of our apartment lol.


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