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LeftyBurnz
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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: MOTH]
#7676186 - 11/24/07 09:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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well everyone cheats from time to time well if you felt high, id say thats a good reaction 
speaking of which, im doing a cayenne, lemon and apple cider vinegar flush tonight, about 2 tablespoons of cayenne. i feel high. maybe its just because im so flush. im sweating my ass off! lol.
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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: MOTH]
#7676855 - 11/25/07 03:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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id say about less then %2 of the nation(USandA) eats over 90% of their diet RAW.
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MOTH
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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: Pycnogenol]
#7677530 - 11/25/07 11:02 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, it's SAD! (Standard American Diet )
The opposite of what the masses tend to do always works out well for me. I first heard about RAW whenever I was a teenager and I was intrigued, but so addicted to the food I was eating with the SAD that I could't imagine it working out for me. WEll, 7 years later, I'm about 60-70% Raw now, and working to get up to 100%. I just feel better the more RAW stuff I eat. It feels the most natural for me.
I digest RAW stuff so much better too. I deviated from RAW yesterday because of a party (ate lots of carbs, salts and sweets) and as a result last night I woke up puking. My body totally rejected all that stuff because it knew.
So yeah...I am a fan, as you can tell.
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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: MOTH]
#7677580 - 11/25/07 11:20 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I like my poon raw. =D
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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: snoot]
#7678472 - 11/25/07 03:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rawr
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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: MOTH]
#7683131 - 11/26/07 07:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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read the book Mucusless Diet Healing System by Professor Arnold Erhet.
It explains how most food that is considered good (meat, dairy, etc) actually is the main cause for most diseases including cancer and even mental disorders.
Im trying his diet out and it has you eat only fruit and vegies with no starch (ie potatoes)
what my diet is right now is in the morning i eat a couple different kinds of dried fruits and raisins, then during the day i eat sunflower seeds, and for lunch i eat a salad with tomatoes and a homemade dressing with olive oil, lemon juice, papikra, and honey, then i eat a toasted peice of bread with jam on it. then for dinner i eat 3 bananas and some apple sauce and before i go to bed eat some tomato soup... so far i feel really good and i think ill continue with this.
humans are not carnivorous at all, look at our ancestors the apes, they eat only fruits and leaves and shit
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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: AliceDee]
#7685138 - 11/27/07 09:23 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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AliceDee said: humans are not carnivorous at all, look at our ancestors the apes, they eat only fruits and leaves and shit
That's not true:
Looking at Ape Diets--Myths, Realities, and Rationalizations
Apes eat meat, including other apes and monkeys.
Here's a quote:
M: Apes are fruitarians (or peaceful vegans). M: Fruitarianism (or veganism) is our natural diet.
R: The above myths were debunked by Ward Nicholson in a superbly researched interview in Health & Beyond (the 10/96, 12/96, 1/97 issues, now available on this site), which should be essential reading for all rawists. Also, there are two email lists on Internet that address this topic--the Paleodiet and Paleofood lists. The reality is that all the large primates are omnivores, as they all eat insects and some eat flesh. The chimpanzee society is marked by violence: war, incest, murder, cannibalism. So much for "peaceful vegan" chimps! (A more accurate description would be "occasionally violent, omnivore chimps.")
The fossil record clearly shows that our prehistoric ancestors were omnivores; they ate both plant and animal foods. They were not vegans, fruitarians, or even vegetarians.
P.S. (1) Some fruitarians are in denial regarding the above. Some fruitarians try to counter the above with misinformation. Be skeptical of counter-arguments, and look up/check all references cited in counter-arguments! (2) Some conventional vegans have integrity and admit that, biologically, humans are natural omnivores. See anatomist John McArdle, Ph.D.'s article "Humans are Omnivores," in The Vegan Handbook for more info.
M: But mountain gorillas are vegans!
R: Not really; they have been observed deliberately eating driver ants, and they also consume considerable insects on the leaves that are the major part of their diet. Given that many vegans reject honey, avoid foods colored with cochineal (a dye made of ground insects), and get all grossed-out by descriptions of humans consuming insects (common in many hunter-gatherer societies), it is reasonable to say that an ape that deliberately eats ants is not a vegan, even if ants are a small part of their diet.
Reference: Watts, D.P. (1989) "Ant-eating behavior of mountain gorillas." Primates, vol. 30, no. 1, pp. 121-126.
Edit: Sorry, that quote was actually from here!
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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: BrandNoob]
#7685260 - 11/27/07 09:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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im RAW hardcore
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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: BIGSWANG]
#7686007 - 11/27/07 01:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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The argument that we are naturally vegan because apes are is flawed anyway because it assumes that we are direct descendants of apes which is unprovable through the scientific method...
It also assumes that from an evolutionary standpoint we share all attributes from our ancestors which is obviously untrue because we are not apes...There are quite a few differences between humans and apes, so by what reasoning does our diet have to be consistent?
You want human ancestors, look at ancient Greeks.
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Interesting info...
I just stick to the light stuff (no meat/carbs/dairy) because that's what feels better to my body. I have a very sensitive belly these days and it cannot handle anything heavily fatty or processed. Fruits, nuts and vegetables just feel so good in there compared to anything else. Helps me feel light.
Different strokes for different apes --err, folks.
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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: MOTH]
#7687622 - 11/27/07 06:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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So, for those who eat raw, where do you get your main source of energy from? Where do you get your complex carbs from?
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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: BrandNoob]
#7693218 - 11/28/07 11:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, saying our ancestors were any sort of fanatical extreme in their diet is ridiculous! They were probably very hungry much of the time and ate what they could. Frutarian cave men? come on! Maybe in the garden of eden...
Aside from all that I do abstain from meat and moderate my diet as Moth mentioned, because it makes me feel good and I'm healthy to boot.
leftysurprise - where do you get your goji berries cheap enough to eat that many?? or does your exquisite health afford you an extraordinary intellect funneling income from two dozen sources?
Once I started reading about raw food I was immediately captured and have since started eating many more raw foods. I hope to go mostly raw someday, but I think that day is far off.
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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: fazdazzle]
#7693618 - 11/29/07 03:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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The RAW people I talk to say to transition gradually...for many it takes about a year or two to get to 100% raw (my goal), and they say that if you have a craving for a non-raw food during the transition that you should just eat it. There is a lot of detox that happens when you start eating raw foods and shifting away in dramatic fashion from the heavy-greasy stuff you're familiar with can be uncomfortable so you don't want to feel like you're depriving yourself, especially in the beginning. Many rawfoodists eat a lot of nuts and other fatty raw foods like avocados in the beginning of their transition, and then a while later find that they don't need that fat anymore. Also I hear that if you eat lots more greens (like kale and spinach) that this eliminates fat cravings.
To the poster who asked about nutrition: You can get energy from anything raw, especially nutrient dense foods like germinated nuts, seeds and grains. You soak them and prepare them appropriately in raw breads, crackers and other dishes; there are a ton of raw recipes out there. Where you get your "main source of energy" from varies from person to person, in my experience. I get energy from everything I eat, and when I'm not eating (fasting) it comes from the stores available in my body.
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The argument that we are naturally vegan because apes are is flawed anyway because it assumes that we are direct descendants of apes which is unprovable through the scientific method...
Not to mention that primates (including apes) will naturally hunt, kill, and eat meat if available. This behavior is will documented.
Is anything in science actually provable? I don't want to get into a semantics debate, but there is a massive amount of evidence that indicates humans and modern primates evolved from a common ancestor at some point. To the contrary, there is little to no evidence that indicates that humans and modern primates did not evolve from a common ancestor. Of course, this could change tomorrow, should somebody make a ground breaking discovery, but for now, from a science point of view, there is little doubt.
> Also I hear that if you eat lots more greens (like kale and spinach) that this eliminates fat cravings.
When I stopped eating meat, I eventually learned to listen to my body and to identify what I was craving. People always looked at me kinda funny when I would be eating dill pickles and ice cream, but hey, it scratched the itch and that is all that really mattered.
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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: Seuss]
#7694528 - 11/29/07 11:50 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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well look at our teeth, do they resemble that of a carnivorous animal??? also we must cook our meet to eat it, carnivores eat all their meat raw...
sure we CAN eat meat, cows are fed other cows in their food aswell but that doesnt mean they naturally do that..
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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: Seuss]
#7694767 - 11/29/07 01:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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You should petition Ben & Jerry's to create a dill pickle ice cream for ya!  I'd imagine it'd go the way of their Peanut Butter & Jelly flavor concoction...
Raw foods, hrmm.. I have to say, this thread has been getting in my head since it was first posted! I've been making conscious decisions to eat more raw food, particularly pistachio nuts, macadamias, avocado, lettuce, tomato, apples, and kiwi. Does beef jerky count as raw?
Either way, I just can't see myself to be cutting meats and deep fried goodness out of my diet entirely. It's all just too tasty!
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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: Seuss]
#7694931 - 11/29/07 01:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is anything provable? Yeah, through the scientific method, lots of things are.
Theories like evolution, however, are not...there is no way to experiment.
So, what we have, is a strong, practical, socially-accepted explanation for how we came to be. This, however, does not make it a scientific certainty and therefore any argument made with an evolutionary postulate is flawed.
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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: AliceDee]
#7694935 - 11/29/07 01:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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AliceDee said: well look at our teeth, do they resemble that of a carnivorous animal??? also we must cook our meet to eat it, carnivores eat all their meat raw...
sure we CAN eat meat, cows are fed other cows in their food aswell but that doesnt mean they naturally do that..
WE can eat meat. We even have natural enzymes that break down meat through the digestion process and utilize the proteins offered.
We do not have to cook meat. People eat raw fish all the time and some of us even eat raw beef.
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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: fazdazzle]
#7695270 - 11/29/07 03:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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fazdazzle said: leftysurprise - where do you get your goji berries cheap enough to eat that many?? or does your exquisite health afford you an extraordinary intellect funneling income from two dozen sources?
there is an asian market near my house that sells them by the pound, i cant remembe the price, but its pretty cheap compared to health food stores. theyre not organic or anything, but theyre still goji berries
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Re: Who's RAW here? [Re: AliceDee]
#7695295 - 11/29/07 03:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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AliceDee said: well look at our teeth, do they resemble that of a carnivorous animal??? also we must cook our meet to eat it, carnivores eat all their meat raw...
sure we CAN eat meat, cows are fed other cows in their food aswell but that doesnt mean they naturally do that..
they resemble an OMNIVOROUS animal. we have teeth for chewing, cutting and tearing. we can eat anything.
we do NOT have to cook our meat to eat it. only the poor quality meat that you buy in a grocery store. i eat most of my seafood raw.
diet is a choice. it all depends on just how healthy you want to be. some have no problem sacrificing health for "better tasting" food.
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