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Offline2play
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this feeling.....
    #7666308 - 11/22/07 09:31 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

hi all,

when i trip i get this feeling that im not allowed to feel or see what im seeing, and always get thoughts go through my head that someone is going to find out and take it away from me. now im generally a paranoid person, o blame this on ym mum as she was scared of everything and was allways the same.

anyway is there a way to combat this thought stop it coming up? as everytime it does it sends the trip bad.

EXTRA: also when i trip away from ym GF (I.E 27th oct) that i have been living with for just over a year, i get a feeling of wanting her bad.....the more i think about her and how she is n what she is upto, the more i think about how i treat her, and that gets me thinking, do you have any good ideas? its doing my head in.

past 2 trips have gone sour in the end, from endless thinking about my life and problems. even when im fine and happy.


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why do we have tolerance? because mother nature created us and shrooms, and she decides when we can see into other realms! and by the sounds of it that one every 2 weeks!


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Re: this feeling..... [Re: 2play]
    #7666344 - 11/22/07 09:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You have to learn what is meant by this statement:

You are not your mind.

Read The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle. It will teach you how to prevent your thoughts from taking over your life.


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Re: this feeling..... [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7666351 - 11/22/07 09:43 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)
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Here's the book in PDF.

It examines the concept that your mind is not you, it's just a tool you have at your disposal. You pick it up when you need it, and put it down when the task is done.


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Re: this feeling..... [Re: 2play]
    #7666462 - 11/22/07 10:12 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

2play said:
hi all,

when i trip i get this feeling that im not allowed to feel or see what im seeing, and always get thoughts go through my head that someone is going to find out and take it away from me.

past 2 trips have gone sour in the end, from endless thinking about my life and problems. even when im fine and happy.





Anyone who has done psychedelics for a while has probably experienced some of the same things.  I won't pretend to have an answer for you, because you are probably the only one who has this answer.  :wink:

But consider this, just as a metaphor really,it is has been said that the PE can open a person up to deeper realms within themselves.  Yet deeper realms does not mean new realms, since what is merly deeper is already there, underneath.

Having said that, very shortly after a divorce I was eating allot of mushies and kept running into shortness of breath that kept feeling like I was going to die.  This escalated over a few trips until eventually I checked myself into the ER thinking I had gotten a mold poisoning.  This experience pushed to the surface what was underneath.  It was very intense, lots of crying etc at the end of the night. (violin plays in the bg)lol! 

But after that night, the shortness of breath when away.

Anyway, I recognized I had stuffed certain feelings etc. Why do they say we can't lie to ourselves?  What would we want to lie to ourselves about?  But only you can know if this relates to you.

As you can see I have no answers.  Every time I have had experiences similar I have come out with an expanded view about the world and myself.  Meaning I have always found myself to have been mistaken in my assessments of some situation, and so I guess you could say I got a lesson in forgiveness each time.  lol!

Peace!


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Re: this feeling..... [Re: Hertyar]
    #7666541 - 11/22/07 10:33 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Your mind is your higher power. The sooner you realize that you and your mind are not the same, then you will start having better trips. You think about those things for a reason, because they are bothering you.. don't try to avoid thinking of certain things if you are going to use mushrooms you need to take the experience head on and be prepared to get uncomfortable.:thumbup:


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Re: this feeling..... [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7666858 - 11/22/07 12:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

thanks guys brilliant, i agree with het ont he alst bit completly, everytime i started thinking of something its been something differant and ive come to a conclusion ont he subject and cleared thigns up in ym head so to speak, knowing what i could of done better and what not to do in future does that make sense?

im going to read through tht book for the pure fact thoughts do take over ym life, i have an investigative mind, i ahve to get to the bottom of everything if i dont it does my head in period.

like last night i woke up to shouting outside the front of the house, uncover police had caught someone in my front yard, now my yard has a big black metal gates around is and the only way u can get in is through that gate, so they knew he was upto no good, ive opened the gate for them, they didnt take statments ask any questions nothing, they just nicked him towed his car and we heard nothing since.

now its bugging me, why was he there, around a car that was unlocked yet nothing is missing, and also why police nicked him?

i been thinking about that all day since last night when this happened.

thats just an example, but you get an idea of what its like, constantlly, if i aint thinking about shit im thinking about what i gotta do, orwhat ever and it pulls me down and makes me anxious.


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my theory:

why do we have tolerance? because mother nature created us and shrooms, and she decides when we can see into other realms! and by the sounds of it that one every 2 weeks!


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Re: this feeling..... [Re: 2play]
    #7668221 - 11/22/07 08:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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2play said:

thats just an example, but you get an idea of what its like, constantlly, if i aint thinking about shit im thinking about what i gotta do, orwhat ever and it pulls me down and makes me anxious.




90% of thinking is wasteful and harmful. Nothing ever comes of it except you feel shitty. You don't have to be thinking all the time; it's just a bad habit.


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Welcome evermore to gods and men is the self-helping man.  For him all doors are flung wide: him all tongues greet, all honors crown, all eyes follow with desire.  Our love goes out to him and embraces him, because he did not need it.

~ R.W. Emerson, "Self-Reliance"

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