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fine vs course verm
    #7666130 - 11/22/07 08:37 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

hi all,

ive heard fine verm hold more water, so if this is true on a PK cake u would get more on a fine grade verm cake then a course right?

i usedmedium grade before and well lets say the shrooms were very small.

also is there any improvments that can be made to the pk tek to feed it more nutes?


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Re: fine vs course verm [Re: 2play]
    #7666156 - 11/22/07 08:45 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

try reading and learnin about spawning to hpoo...there are all the nutes that shrooms need :wink:


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Re: fine vs course verm [Re: 2play]
    #7666161 - 11/22/07 08:46 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

medium to fine grade is what we use. you don't want powdery fine like you get sometimes at the end of a sack, but you don't want huge bits either.

I'd say around the size of a grain of rice

Also, when you made your last cakes did you dunk and roll between flushes? what was your final yield? What was your Fc?

A lot of people try adding stuff but most additives are for bulk substrates, cakes do fine at the standard 2:1:1 ratio

Maybe the low yield was bad technique or genetics?


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Re: fine vs course verm [Re: Nibin]
    #7666210 - 11/22/07 09:00 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

well it was my first grow.

i used several differant boxes with lids, as one box would do something the other wouldnt, im seriouslly thininhg about getting a myco 650 bag injecting my cambos that came today and making a monotub type thing....


horse poo i can do, but this stuff willb e done at dads, and ona  budget, i understand shrooming is a hobby, and hobby cost money......money i havnt got atm.


erm the yields wernt bad off 2 cakes 2 flushes it got me and dad tripping balls on myday. i think about 6 grams dry? then i ate a 12.5gram wet shroom.

i thought maybe the genitecs were bad to, but i have ordere some spores from teh same company, if the same happens again then well, i kno its them and not me.

oh yea i did dunk and roll he cakes and it worked ok ish, considerably big differance between dunked n no dunked.

im thinking of getting dad to get a big glass FC, thermeter for horse poo, a decent hygro meter, pressure cooker and 6 or 7 myco bags :laugh:


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why do we have tolerance? because mother nature created us and shrooms, and she decides when we can see into other realms! and by the sounds of it that one every 2 weeks!


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Re: fine vs course verm [Re: 2play]
    #7666991 - 11/22/07 01:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

my verm is like the size of small pebbles and my fruits are fairly large.


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Re: fine vs course verm [Re: MsYoureOnFire]
    #7667017 - 11/22/07 01:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If you are getting small fruits, the most likely problem is lack of moisture.

If your not maintaining high enough humidity, shrooms will dry faster than the water can be pumped by the myc.

Make sure your cake is well rehydrated


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