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Re: The universe is a sphere [Re: sleepy]
    #7702554 - 12/01/07 11:55 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: The universe is a sphere [Re: Middleman]
    #7702604 - 12/01/07 12:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

May be a bubble. Like a soap bubble.

We are but resonating strings on a sheet that envelopes a bubble.


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Re: The universe is a sphere [Re: EllisDSox]
    #7703003 - 12/01/07 02:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i said without a doubt and i meant it :smirk:


Edited by sleepy (12/01/07 03:07 PM)


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Re: The universe is a sphere [Re: sleepy]
    #7703059 - 12/01/07 02:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I read that some super dooper quantum cats say its a four dimensional hyper cube...  :peace:


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Re: The universe is a sphere [Re: MokshaIs]
    #7703061 - 12/01/07 02:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Ah, I must correct myself...a 4 dimensional hyper sphere


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Re: The universe is a sphere [Re: MokshaIs]
    #7704010 - 12/01/07 07:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i think the key does not lie in the answer, but lyes in front.


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Re: The universe is a sphere [Re: Middleman]
    #7704688 - 12/01/07 10:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Dodecahedron.




"The standard model of cosmology predicts that the universe is infinite and flat."

They've been looking at a computer screen for too long:monkeydance:


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Re: The universe is a sphere [Re: sleepy]
    #7704697 - 12/01/07 10:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

first of all, if its flat then how thick is it. theres no such thing as flat...

if it was flat we would all be in 2D... do these people get paid? i could use some money and don't mind touting the idea that there are only TWO DIMENSIONS. flat? picture an infinite piece of paper... how boring.


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Re: The universe is a sphere [Re: sleepy]
    #7704713 - 12/01/07 11:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It's a metaphor. You have to speak of higher spacial dimensions in SOME say, and you can only do that by comparing to things we can comprehend. Many pictures in many books depict three dimensional space as a flat plane, with movement in the third dimension actually being movement in the fourth spacial dimension.


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Re: The universe is a sphere [Re: jonathanseagull]
    #7710015 - 12/03/07 09:24 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

it just seems silly to me that scientists who get paid real money think that the universe is flat. its not flat otherwise we could not move, dance, or do anything... "am i wrong? am i wrong? no walter your not wrong your just an asshole!"

scientists=unscientific=dumb


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Re: The universe is a sphere [Re: sleepy]
    #7710021 - 12/03/07 09:28 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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it just seems silly to me that scientists who get paid real money think that the universe is flat. its not flat otherwise we could not move, dance, or do anything... "am i wrong? am i wrong? no walter your not wrong your just an asshole!"

scientists=unscientific=dumb




What?


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Re: The universe is a sphere [Re: sleepy]
    #7710032 - 12/03/07 09:32 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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"am i wrong?  am i wrong?  no walter your not wrong your just an asshole!"




:rofl2:


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Re: The universe is a sphere [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7710077 - 12/03/07 09:48 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Perhaps the 4 dimensions are enveloped in a flat plane, and still exist separately as 4 dimensions with an additional 2 dimensions of the enveloping plane :chiefwiggum:

Probably not though


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Re: The universe is a sphere [Re: sleepy]
    #7710100 - 12/03/07 09:56 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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it just seems silly to me that scientists who get paid real money think that the universe is flat. its not flat otherwise we could not move, dance, or do anything... "am i wrong? am i wrong? no walter your not wrong your just an asshole!"

scientists=unscientific=dumb




You are misunderstanding. Flat in this context does not mean 2-D flat like a plane, a piece of paper. It means "Flat" for 3-D, for which we have no word because we can't percieve higher than three spacial dimensions. But math can, but math doesn't use words. So you have to use a metaphor, and this one is..."flat".


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Re: The universe is a sphere [Re: jonathanseagull]
    #7710339 - 12/03/07 11:17 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

the big bang suggests its a sphere too:indian: :mrt:


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Re: The universe is a sphere [Re: sleepy]
    #7710344 - 12/03/07 11:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

In 2D-space, you can walk forward. If you always walk forward on earth (in 3D-space), you will come to the place you started once. The (almost unnoticeable) up-down movement is not relevant for a 2D entity moving forward on the ground.
Same is possible for higher realms of space-time dimensions.


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Re: The universe is a sphere [Re: sleepy]
    #7710354 - 12/03/07 11:21 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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the big bang suggests its a sphere too:indian: :mrt: 




Nope, the microwave radiation background from the big bang is suggesting a dodecahedron.


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Re: The universe is a sphere [Re: Middleman]
    #7710374 - 12/03/07 11:27 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

well sure, the MICROWAVE vibrations might be a little muddled because they are so delicate, bouncing off of things and affected by gravity and such, and a dodecahedron is actually very close to being a sphere. but the fact is that the stars, galaxies, and super galaxies are all moving outwards from a central point, and the definition of a sphere is having all points equidistant from the center. and thats what we have. understand?


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Re: The universe is a sphere [Re: sleepy]
    #7710397 - 12/03/07 11:33 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It think I did read somewhere that the universe expands (if it really does, then) not homogeneously.

edit:We could pass the question over to the science forum and then gather again to discuss the results and their spiritual and philosophical implications :smile:
Maybe something like this: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7224209#7224209 even if it's a closed thread :crazy:


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Edited by BlueCoyote (12/03/07 12:41 PM)


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Re: The universe is a sphere [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #7712081 - 12/03/07 05:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Scientists dont get paid real money.

Its flat, the universe is the thinest plane in existence, it's like a sheet. THE sheet, an inescapable sheet. IF somehow you were able to be outside the sheet, then it would look infintismly thick, more like a block that starts where it ends, and fuck's itself up its own ass.

You may feel like you are moving in multiple deminsions that a flat sheet would not allow- but in fact you are only moving in 2. It feels like 3 from behind your eyes- but the sheet moves with you, rotating and flexing.


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