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igwna
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hallucinations covering people?
#7665337 - 11/22/07 12:37 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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good morning and happy thanksgiving my gurus 
the other day i started to wonder about my upcoming (sigh) shroom trip and i began thinking about if a hallucination can overlap my tripping buddy.. is it possible/likely/usual for someone you are with to dissapear or be covered by hallucinations?
or is it possible for you to not see someone that is REALLY there? i mean.. nothing unusual hallucination wise, just have it not there at all (visually).
i apologize if this is brought up somewhere else but my search turned up nothing for me.
this isn't strictly mushrooms.. if it happens with other drugs feel free to post the info here (for my and general knowledge) but i'm moreso 'concerned' (though not actually worried, curious is more or less a better word) about mushrooms.
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greystealth
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Re: hallucinations covering people? [Re: igwna]
#7665386 - 11/22/07 12:58 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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First of all, nice avatar man!
The only two drugs that I've heard of where you might be in a totally different world is A)salvia and B)nitrous mixed with E. The 2nd one could just be a rumor, but I was told that a user experienced all objects to be absolutely white for ten seconds...
As far as hallucinations actually covering your friend, I've never heard of that. But I definitely think it's possible for your friend to morph into something else(creature,monster,anything). Keep in mind, it's all about your mindset. Don't trip.(pun intended)
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igwna
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Re: hallucinations covering people? [Re: greystealth]
#7665574 - 11/22/07 02:23 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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excellent. thanks a ton. i'm not afraid of him morphing much.. well, i'm not really afraid of the trip.. but i might get a little nervous if i suddenly found myself all alone. i can tell myself "its only the drug" but if he just vanished.. i'd probably be a little puzzled.
i took my avatar picture myself
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DeathCompany
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Re: hallucinations covering people? [Re: igwna]
#7665723 - 11/22/07 04:19 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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A lot of drugs can create completely new environments, most jsut need large doses. Dmt and salvia are known to do this on normal doses. 2ct7 is alo known for its amazing visuals but not necessarily landscapes. More like geometric hallucination that are so intense you can see your hand in front of you. Ive never heard of a drug making someone invisible though.
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redgreenvines
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Re: hallucinations covering people? [Re: DeathCompany]
#7665736 - 11/22/07 04:47 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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if you examine the salvia scale you will see 6 levels from very subtle all the way to amnesia and these levels actually apply to all the psychedelics. dose drives the effects to greater intensity. normally during a session the intensity will waver between a few of the levels, and even amnesia will be interpenetrated by some visionary effects at very high doses - i.e. though you can lose the thread of the experience, you may return with some astonishing fragments.
I used to think the salvia scale was wrong because it did not include the deleriant mixed state of visionary/amnesia such as Datura produces, and which salvia often momentarily produces.
I have discovered that a trip usually involves some variance in state and that the products of one state will strongly persist in the next.
That said, I have seen patterns weave and absorb people on mushrooms and lsd, and then the patterns speak in their voices and later the magic environment releases the people. I have seen visitors that were not there as well. I have never done datura which people say brings on such an intense dream world that very little of the surroundings remains for hours on end. I don't think I would like that.
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DeathCompany
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Re: hallucinations covering people? [Re: redgreenvines]
#7665749 - 11/22/07 05:12 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes datura is a great example, vivid hallucinations interacting with the real external environment.
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Littleman

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Re: hallucinations covering people? [Re: DeathCompany]
#7666586 - 11/22/07 10:48 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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wel i kind of got what you are describing, but it was: 1. At night 2. in the middle of a forest 3. on 3-5 drops of VERY potent lsd
even then i could barely make out where my two mates were, and kept thinking i could see huge groups of people running around us, but there were visuals everywhere so i couldnt really tell.
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2859558484
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Re: hallucinations covering people? [Re: Littleman]
#7666592 - 11/22/07 10:52 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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ive seen people dissapear and re appear like theyre made ouut of a particle storm on lsd at night.
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Littleman

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Re: hallucinations covering people? [Re: 2859558484]
#7666614 - 11/22/07 11:03 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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actuly come to think of it the 4th time i did acid, i was on a tiny bit of k as wel walking down this little road at night and i kept kinda seeing the lights and darks of what would be a person out of the corner of my eyes.
psychedelics + nighttime = imagination properly taking over.
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Re: hallucinations covering people? [Re: Littleman]
#7666620 - 11/22/07 11:06 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Littleman said: 1. At night 2. in the middle of a forest 3. on 3-5 drops of VERY potent lsd
I've seen people with glowing faces in the same setting.
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