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JaComet
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Re: Moon and inoculation [Re: Nibin]
#7665739 - 11/22/07 04:54 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Greetings cupevampe,
Inoculation and transfer of stored cultures : New Moon waxing to First Quarter. Any Water sign.
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Re: Moon and inoculation [Re: JaComet]
#7665741 - 11/22/07 04:59 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow, Jacomet. Registered since 2002 but only 55 posts. Not a big poster I see, lol.
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Re: Moon and inoculation [Re: Nibin]
#7665759 - 11/22/07 05:34 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Probably only posts on a full moon
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JaComet
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Re: Moon and inoculation [Re: yepyepyep]
#7665772 - 11/22/07 05:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I only post when I’ve something to contribute.
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Re: Moon and inoculation [Re: JaComet]
#7665789 - 11/22/07 06:12 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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that's what I figured. There are a surprising amount of people who lurk and only post occasionally.
Interesting info btw, is it from personal experience?
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Re: Moon and inoculation [Re: Nibin]
#7666109 - 11/22/07 08:29 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Greetings Nibin,
From experience. I’ve been growing various higher fungi since June of 1974. Several years later my lab notes indicated faster and healthier colorizations that correlated somehow to transfers made at the dark of the Moon. Don’t even remember how I first noticed this trend. Later experience in the garden led me to employ classic Moon Phase timing to mushroom cultivation.
I began planning inoculations from stored cultures to coincide accordingly. As I persisted in this practice I was rewarded with consistent performance in cultivation. Six weeks from initial transfer to grain (using pints), expanding to quarts, laying in trays (no bulk substrates then), casing, to fruit. This brought my 1st flushes out around the second following Full Moon!
The Koi Samui “Fool Moon” festivals seem to support the Full Moon as preferred fruiting periods. Timing transfer procedures and casing on days suggested for killing pests/weeds (when possible) just seems to help achieve that observed 1st fruiting period.
Admittedly subjective observations.
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Re: Moon and inoculation [Re: JaComet]
#7666127 - 11/22/07 08:36 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Niiiiice, even if it is subjective it is still way better than "something my cousin's friend's sister read somewhere I'm not sure where, maybe on the internets"
I think I'm going to start marking the moon fases in my grow notebook along with the rest of info.
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Re: Moon and inoculation [Re: Nibin]
#7666548 - 11/22/07 10:35 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's amazing how infected we've become with disrespect of others. Becareful how you measure others, it all comes back to you.
If the moon is important to your path, follow it. Some of us will honor it, the ignorant will make fun of it, You will grow from it.
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Re: Moon and inoculation [Re: AtrioVent]
#7666998 - 11/22/07 01:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i use moonrocks as substrate.
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Re: Moon and inoculation [Re: Omnicracker]
#7667024 - 11/22/07 01:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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speaking of moons
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Re: Moon and inoculation [Re: tahoe]
#7667035 - 11/22/07 01:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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does your girl know you post her ass all over this forum? lol
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It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus. All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter, while the octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV. But then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns. Also he got a race car. Is any of this getting through to you?
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Re: Moon and inoculation [Re: Deity208]
#7667052 - 11/22/07 01:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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ive had that gaping ass shot as my background for almost a year now. slap it hard one time for ol OMNI.
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Re: Moon and inoculation [Re: tahoe]
#7667074 - 11/22/07 01:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Man, there is a forum for that kind of a post......Not to disrespect you in any way shape or form, but could you please remove it? The cultivation form is for cultivation. I really don't see that as being productive, or in any way contributing to this thread. Especially when Jacomet breathed some real life into it.
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Re: Moon and inoculation [Re: Omnicracker]
#7667093 - 11/22/07 01:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Omnicracker said: i use moonrocks as substrate.
Is that why the caps are black? Or is that because they have been fruiting too long? They look like they are way past picking.
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That looks like they have spores all over them. Been covered and have fruited way past picking. I'm interested in how to get moon rocks as a substrate though!
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Why so many asses gotta come in here and just say thats stupid. I haven't seen anything about mushroom but I seen this talking about the water in plants and plants that are made up of lots of water well mushrooms got alto more water then a carrot lol and how it can be effected by the pull of the moon.
article here kinda made it sound like you should plant under barren signs during dark periods and try and get a full moon for the pull of the fruiting?
http://goddess.astrology.com/moon/gardening.html
From ancient times, some gardening practices have been based on Moon phases. The Moon affects plant growth through its pull on water. Plants contain a huge percentage of water in their make up, and they respond to the tidal pulls of the Moon.
Generally, the best time to plant is just before the New Moon and during the waxing phase. The waning Moon through to the balsamic phase is clean-up time -- weed out dying plants or overgrown beds, rake paths, trim, burn or compost debris.
However, some plants do better when started during certain Moon phases. For instance, during the New Moon, plant flowers, shrubs, trees and such garden vegetables as lettuce, chard, spinach and others whose primary value is in their above-ground parts. As the Moon grows full, it draws the plants up, enhancing their growth. Root crops, like potatoes, turnips and onions like the dark of the Moon.
This is further complicated by the effects of the Moon Signs. When the Moon moves through certain signs, it becomes more barren or more fertile. In general, plant during fertile and semi-fertile signs, keeping in mind that below-ground plants flourish during barren signs.
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Re: Moon and inoculation [Re: Omnicracker]
#7667273 - 11/22/07 03:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Omnicracker said: i use moonrocks as substrate.
those are some sporey mushrooms
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Re: Moon and inoculation [Re: MYSTIQUE]
#7667319 - 11/22/07 03:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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sound like a load of superstitious hokum to me. how does the phase of the moon change the gravitational pull it exerts? the whole moon is still there whether you see all or part of it. what am i missing.
having said that though,i seem to recall that some plants are said to flower only at the time of a full moon.but then again that may have been from some old horror movie i watched as a youth  hound of the baskervilles maybe.
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Re: Moon and inoculation [Re: deucedbi9]
#7669189 - 11/23/07 04:59 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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>>“Why so many asses gotta come in here and just say thats stupid.”
Greetings MYSTIQUE,
Most folks in “Modern” societies come from a strictly Materialistic mind set. It’s how we’re taught to think. Minds enclosed by rules simply remain inside the possibilities imposed by those rules. This is particularly true in the realms of “Science”, where such things as the Laws of Physics are held sacrosanct.
(Guess we’re just a couple of heretics, you and me ;-)
Transferring and inoculating during barren signs seems to be a little counterproductive to me, as that is also the time for killing pests, cutting lawns to slow growth and all that. I had my best responses when I could transfer with the Moon traversing a water sign. Also keep in mind our Friends in the Fifth Kingdom are quite different from those in the Second.
And just a note, Water elements correspond to the Fertile times while the other elements are all over the place.
>>“how does the phase of the moon change the gravitational pull it exerts? the whole moon is still there whether you see all or part of it. As the Moons position around Earth changes, so does the shape and what am i missing”
Greetings deucedbi9,
Triangulation and energy flow from the sun.
Imagine the visible and invisible spectrums of energy from the Sun as a liquid current. Like a river, it flows around objects forming cross eddies and riffles. As the Moon’s position around Earth changes, so does the shape of eddies around the two bodies.
It may not be so much about gravitational pull, if “Gravity” even exists.
From : http://www.thunderbolts.info
“Today, nothing is more important to the future and credibility of science than liberation from the gravity-driven universe of prior theory. A mistaken supposition has not only prevented intelligent and sincere investigators from seeing what would otherwise be obvious, it has bred indifference to possibilities that could have inspired the sciences for decades." David Talbott and Wallace Thornhill
From : http://www.kronia.com/electric.html
Space is filled with plasma, the fourth state of matter. Plasma consists of hot ionized atoms and is influenced by magnetic fields. Plasma also conducts electrical current. Such current flow creates magnetic fields which affect the structure of the plasma. The energy states and resulting structure are so complex that scientists are not able to adequately model plasma phenomena mathematically. However, we have a great deal of empirical knowledge of plasmas since they have been used in industry for over a hundred years.
Plasmas do not behave like a gas. They develop structure when a charge gradient produces the movement of electric current. The current flow and resultant magnetic fields cause the plasma to form filaments that twist together into ropes. As long as the current continues, the structure remains intact.
Guess I’ve gone on long enough.
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Re: Moon and inoculation [Re: Nibin]
#7669196 - 11/23/07 05:15 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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be sure to twirl deosil and widdershin thrice!
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