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 Deity208
 
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 Could you train a dog to sniff out actives? 
#7660596 - 11/20/07 08:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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You can teach one to sniff out pot, bombs etc.. What about psilocybin?
Sorry if this is the wrong forum, mods please move it if so.
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It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus.
All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter, while the
octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV.
But then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns.
Also he got a race car.
Is any of this getting through to you?
Edited by Deity208 (11/20/07 08:39 PM)
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 Re: Could you train a dog to sniff out actives? [Re: Deity208]
#7660642 - 11/20/07 08:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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probably not, mushrooms yes, but not actives.
Do a search, this gets brought up every year about this time
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Re: Could you train a dog to sniff out actives? [Re: tahoe]
#7660707 - 11/20/07 09:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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It gets brought up every few months i believe 
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Re: Could you train a dog to sniff out actives? [Re: implee]
#7660755 - 11/20/07 09:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I bet you could..They certainly do have a particular smell even humans can recognize as distinct from other species
the main problem with training dogs is having enough fresh ones around, or know where to find them in order to train a dog. This actually could be a great idea in some ways, because so many times, patches are hidden underneath foliage where you can't see them, especially in drier years
Edited by auweia (11/20/07 09:31 PM)
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Re: Could you train a dog to sniff out actives? [Re: auweia]
#7660818 - 11/20/07 09:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if you could teach a dog to hunt out specific species or genera at the least.
Dogs can tell by smell whether or not a mole on someone is cancerous or if a person has bladder cancer by the scent of their urine.
I think you should give it a try, and then let us know if you were successful! People train them to find truffles, why not other mushies?
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Re: Could you train a dog to sniff out actives? [Re: rainlover]
#7660844 - 11/20/07 09:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Keep in mind that truffles have extremely strong odors, evolved specifically to attract animals such as pigs and rodents so they will be eaten and their spores spread in the animal droppings. For most mushrooms the spores will not survive a trip through an animal digestive system, so the odors are probably for other purposes. For example, in some cases the odors are a side effect of chemicals produced to keep insects from eating the mushroom.
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Re: Could you train a dog to sniff out actives? [Re: Deity208]
#7660859 - 11/20/07 10:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm sure it could be done.
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Re: Could you train a dog to sniff out actives? [Re: scout24]
#7660866 - 11/20/07 10:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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will the dog know the difference from a patch that isnt fruiting and one that is?
Ps mycelium smells like the mushrooms
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Re: Could you train a dog to sniff out actives? [Re: tahoe]
#7661028 - 11/20/07 10:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dunno about whether or not they could discern a fruiting patch from the mycelium, but it wouldn't surprise me. Just because they smell the same to you, doesn't mean they smell the same to a dog!
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Re: Could you train a dog to sniff out actives? [Re: rainlover]
#7661785 - 11/21/07 07:34 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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yes it could be done , my friend have a golden retriever sorry. and since he was a cob, well we took it to pasture to mushroom hunting well after 8 month of training he now run faster that us when we jump out of the car, and he run to the nearest patch of cubensis then we got to him and the problem still is that he get so excited that end destroying all the mushrooms and jumpin around haha 
my friend did not teach the dog he learnfrom himself , seen us doing it all th time , he fell like join us , you knows dog they think are humand ... or part of the family at leats...
well it can be done , and they love to do it, well this dog of my friend eat mushrooms i guee he learn also from us he only eat active ones thank god ,,but you know we are not the only creatures that enjoy magic..so my friend let it go and he know how much to eat i tell hin is not a dog but a shaman . he just need to took well, not to much .........
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Re: Could you train a dog to sniff out actives? [Re: cactu]
#7661796 - 11/21/07 07:39 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Right on cactu! 
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It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus.
All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter, while the
octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV.
But then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns.
Also he got a race car.
Is any of this getting through to you?
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Re: Could you train a dog to sniff out actives? [Re: Deity208]
#7661798 - 11/21/07 07:40 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think the answer might lay in the fact that psilocybin does not have an odor .. most psilocybes have a Farinaceous (grainy) smell - same as many other varities.
And the idea that dogs are color blind won't help them notice the blue bruising either .. 
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Re: Could you train a dog to sniff out actives? [Re: lester]
#7662786 - 11/21/07 12:39 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've heard labs and poodles are favored truffle dogs. ToxicMan has a very strong point - mushrooms besides truffles may not have a strong enough scent to be tracked.
But cactu, I've heard other stories like yours. Eventually the dog learns from the pack leader what's going on.
At least if the dogs' smart enough.
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Re: Could you train a dog to sniff out actives? [Re: YidakiMan]
#7662970 - 11/21/07 01:11 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I teach my dog to hunt poon. Works quite well, FOR HIM... Dangit.
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Re: Could you train a dog to sniff out actives? [Re: verminute]
#7662983 - 11/21/07 01:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
verminute said:
I teach my dog to hunt poon. Works quite well, FOR HIM... Dangit.
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It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus.
All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter, while the
octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV.
But then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns.
Also he got a race car.
Is any of this getting through to you?
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Re: Could you train a dog to sniff out actives? [Re: Deity208]
#7665405 - 11/22/07 01:04 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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It is a myth that dogs are color blind.
Dogs can see blues and yellows, but not reds.
They can also discern more shades of gray than we can.
A dog's sense of smell is incredible. We can't even fathom things they can smell, so it is not out of the question for them to be able differentiate by smell different species of mushrooms. Just because to humans psilocybin, etc... are odorless doesn't mean they are odorless to a dog.
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Re: Could you train a dog to sniff out actives? [Re: cactu]
#7665417 - 11/22/07 01:08 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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great post cactu
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Re: Could you train a dog to sniff out actives? [Re: rainlover]
#7665564 - 11/22/07 02:14 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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rainlover said:
They can also discern more shades of gray than we can.
Shades of gray(tonality) is infinite. Right?
I suppose you mean they can discern different degrees of tonality better than us. Which, I suppose is the same thing that you said. Sorry, you're right. I'm being pedantic.
Back on topic(kind of)...so dogs, they wouldn't be able to identify a few grams of fungi mixed into say, peanut butter, or honey?..gift wrapped and sent as a Christmas present? Especially a gift basket with smoked meats and cheeses included...hypothetically speaking.
Edited by akb112211 (11/22/07 03:30 AM)
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Re: Could you train a dog to sniff out actives? [Re: akb112211]
#7665586 - 11/22/07 02:30 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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as long as someone goes out and spreads peanut butter on all the actives in the area, my dog at least would find them easy
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Re: Could you train a dog to sniff out actives? [Re: cactu]
#7665660 - 11/22/07 03:14 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Never underestimate the power of the k9's snout.. They can track a person though a crowded city weeks after they were actually there. Thats friggin impressive.
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cactu said: you knows dog they think are humand ... or part of the family at leats...
Humans think dogs think they're humans, Dog's think we are part of their pack, which is true in the majority of dog owning house holds... If aliens are watching us, i bet they think dog's were kings.
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