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NorCalCaps
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Requesting Identification Assistance
#7659402 - 11/20/07 03:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I live in North-East California, and found the following shrooms growing in the woods on the back of my property. I am hoping someone can help me to identify these. The first set (4 images) are a type of mushroom that is presently growing rampant. Every few days there's a new "garden" of them to choose from . The first photo includes a 15-inch ruler in the box (bottom of frame) for perspective.
The second set (3 images) is of a single mushroom (of which there are several more, growing among the other smaller shrooms - but I can't tell if they're the same strain - only much more mature??
Any help would be greatly appreciated - I'm a total noob at this ... here you go:
First Set:
Second Set:
Edited by NorCalCaps (11/21/07 12:25 PM)
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Re: Requesting Identification Assistance [Re: NorCalCaps]
#7659419 - 11/20/07 03:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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The first set are Violet Cort's, Cortinarius alboviolaceus. Inedible.
The second may be a Russula of some sort.
Edited by Hotnuts (11/20/07 03:16 PM)
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Re: Requesting Identification Assistance [Re: NorCalCaps]
#7659433 - 11/20/07 03:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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your firs mushrooms resemble lepista nuda, but look some how diferent you need to do a spore print because some gill look grey that weird , so a spore print will tell us all
the second specie is a lactarius piperatus maybe , damage a bit the gill in order to see the white latex or fluid that go out as a bleeding , if you can find any may be a russula.
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Re: Requesting Identification Assistance [Re: Hotnuts]
#7659434 - 11/20/07 03:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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all in-active. The bay isnt fruiting in the open yet. Almost all ive picked this season have been deep in bushes. When we get some good rain things should be more abundant.
also, see the ID request format for a proper ID. Pictures are not satisfactory alone.
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Re: Requesting Identification Assistance [Re: NorCalCaps]
#7659477 - 11/20/07 03:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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the purple one is definately cortinarius. Theres almost no doubt in my mind about that. The second picture definately looks like a russula. Is the stem hollow, and delicate to the touch? breaking up easily when squeezed?
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Re: Requesting Identification Assistance [Re: Drewwyann]
#7659514 - 11/20/07 03:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for the help. I'm working on a spore-print now of the smaller ones. Hopefully I'll know more once the spore-print is complete. Suimush - you mentioned the proper ID request format - I've searched here with no luck. Can you point me in the right direction?
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Re: Requesting Identification Assistance [Re: NorCalCaps]
#7659519 - 11/20/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Requesting Identification Assistance [Re: Drewwyann]
#7659548 - 11/20/07 04:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Drewwyann - regarding the second set (the larger mushroom) - no the stem is not hollow. It is solid thru-and-thru, and quite strong. (oh, and thanks for the link!).
suimush - you mentioned that "the bay" isn't fruiting yet. I assume you mean the bay-area? I'm closer to Tahoe - about 40 miles north west of Tahoe and we've had some really good rains over the past couple of weeks, followed by nice sunny days .
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Re: Requesting Identification Assistance [Re: NorCalCaps]
#7659579 - 11/20/07 04:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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was the larger mushroom growing with other mushrooms, or was that the only one? was it growing in grass, near a bush, tree? It looks an awful like like a hebeloma i found recently but we live on opposite ends of the country, so i'm probably wrong on that one.
Also, i've been monitoring the patch i found, and none of the caps have flipped up like that. Non have even gone flat, and they've been fruiting for about a week or so.
The hebeloma I'm talking about is in my signature. The picture of the gnome with all of the mushrooms on him. The one that looks like yours is the one I'm suspecting.
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Re: Requesting Identification Assistance [Re: NorCalCaps]
#7659589 - 11/20/07 04:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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More info on "First Set" of shrooms above:
Habitat: Leaves and compost style ground cover in the forest. Often pushing up from the ground under fallen leaves.
Gills: The gill color is blueish-whiteish when picked - turning bluish-grayish after a short time (say less than 30 minutes).
Stem: Whitish, pretty fragile, slightly enlarged at base.
Cap: Whiteish with brown dot in center (while still in ground), smooth, 1/2-inch to 2-inches in diameter.
Spore print color: (still working on this)
Bruising: Blueish.
Location: Northern California - about 40 miles north west of Lake Tahoe.
-- hope that's helpful info?
Edited by NorCalCaps (11/20/07 04:25 PM)
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Re: Requesting Identification Assistance [Re: NorCalCaps]
#7659606 - 11/20/07 04:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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The larger mushroom was growing about 15 feet away from the first set above, but only others like the large one surrounded it. It does resemble your gnome images, but it was more white in color the cap had definitely turned up.
edit: I've tossed the larger one and am concentrating on the smaller ones for now. I'll post the results of the sport-print probably sometime tomorrow. Thanks to all for your help.
Edited by NorCalCaps (11/20/07 04:20 PM)
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Re: Requesting Identification Assistance [Re: Drewwyann]
#7660145 - 11/20/07 06:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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>the purple one is definately cortinarius.
What makes you so sure?
 Lepista nuda
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Re: Requesting Identification Assistance [Re: LouiseLouise]
#7660159 - 11/20/07 06:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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The rusty brown spores have already coated those mushrooms. Definitely Violet Cort's.
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Re: Requesting Identification Assistance [Re: LouiseLouise]
#7660256 - 11/20/07 06:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Hotnuts said: The rusty brown spores have already coated those mushrooms. Definitely Violet Cort's.
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Re: Requesting Identification Assistance [Re: Drewwyann]
#7660485 - 11/20/07 08:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah i´m thinking are cortinarius for the crazy look not so much as lepista i don´t know why i don´t read the first post, but i go only for the look , but know i see it is also present the bulbuos base of the stem as cortinarius and the sten is to white i can say much about the dusted spores but will love to see a spore print i see some other russula there a bit brown in the middle of all cort.
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Re: Requesting Identification Assistance [Re: cactu]
#7661277 - 11/21/07 12:15 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Plus caps with spoked gills. L. nuda has gills that are much tighter.
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Re: Requesting Identification Assistance [Re: Hotnuts]
#7661336 - 11/21/07 12:38 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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The first ones I find all the time, and they are not blewits. I don't think I ever figured out exactly what they are, but I'm almost certain they are a Cortinarius.
If the second set has stems that snap cleanly like a piece of chalk when you break them in half they are either Russulas or Lactaria. If the gills or cap ooze a milk or juice when broken then they are Lactaria.
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Re: Requesting Identification Assistance [Re: rainlover]
#7662698 - 11/21/07 12:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here is the spore-print for the first set. The color ranges from light brown to a darker brown:
 rainlover: as for the second set - yes the stem breaks like chalk and the gills do ooooze a milky substance. Thanks.
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Re: Requesting Identification Assistance [Re: NorCalCaps]
#7664331 - 11/21/07 06:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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c'mon guys, first pics are obviously Inocybe geophylla var. lilacina, very common in my neck of woods
don't eat those
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