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Offlineakira_akuma
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Re: Surfer Dude Praised By Physicists for his Theory of the Universe. [Re: Pancakes]
    #11870122 - 01/21/10 12:48 AM (14 years, 10 days ago)

oooooh i get it. :super::imslow:


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Offlinedummy
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Re: Surfer Dude Praised By Physicists for his Theory of the Universe. [Re: Pancakes]
    #11871297 - 01/21/10 10:11 AM (14 years, 10 days ago)

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Pancakes said:
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truekimbo2 said:
i am very scared of mathmaticians.

we see fractals and grids and mandalas and so on and we're like "whoa dude, i'm seeing infinity bro"

mathmaticians have like a hundred thousand sets of patterns like that in their head and they know how they inter-relate and how they relate to real life and so and and so on.
they're fucking scarey.  i can barely handle a single large pattern, while they're juggling tons of them.

also i don't know shit and my brain hurts after 10 seconds of reading about math, these people spend their lives doing it!

math makes dmt look like ginger beer.




QFT  :laugh:  I love it!





i'm not mathematician but i've studied up to linear algebra and i feel the exact opposite. math is a walk in the park compared to dmt. math isn't that bad, it's all practice practice practice.


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Re: Surfer Dude Praised By Physicists for his Theory of the Universe. [Re: dummy]
    #11871445 - 01/21/10 10:43 AM (14 years, 10 days ago)

In the vast ocean of math linear algebra is just the kiddie pool.


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Re: Surfer Dude Praised By Physicists for his Theory of the Universe. [Re: DieCommie]
    #11872992 - 01/21/10 02:39 PM (14 years, 10 days ago)

What they teach in high schools math wise is bullshit- all this pointless made up shit turns you off of it  :tongue2:


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Re: Surfer Dude Praised By Physicists for his Theory of the Universe. [Re: Istigkeit]
    #11873169 - 01/21/10 03:08 PM (14 years, 10 days ago)

Gnarly theory dude!


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Re: Surfer Dude Praised By Physicists for his Theory of the Universe. [Re: stereolab]
    #11873194 - 01/21/10 03:11 PM (14 years, 10 days ago)

Yeah- I hated geometery so I said the teacher- "So what, this is just some order or system that is made up by humans and we are just supposed to solve the puzzle?"

and she said "...Yeah!"

They don't get the true beauty of math! :shrug:


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Re: Surfer Dude Praised By Physicists for his Theory of the Universe. [Re: DieCommie]
    #11924829 - 01/29/10 02:52 PM (14 years, 2 days ago)

why is there a pool in the ocean?


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Re: Surfer Dude Praised By Physicists for his Theory of the Universe. [Re: machination]
    #11924874 - 01/29/10 02:58 PM (14 years, 2 days ago)

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machination said:
mathematics will take you to within an inch of infinity only to repel you from it





:rofl:
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Re: Surfer Dude Praised By Physicists for his Theory of the Universe. [Re: dummy]
    #11924876 - 01/29/10 02:59 PM (14 years, 2 days ago)

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dummy said:
why is there a pool in the ocean?




Its for the kiddies.


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Re: Surfer Dude Praised By Physicists for his Theory of the Universe. [Re: DieCommie]
    #11951787 - 02/02/10 11:31 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Surfer Dude Praised By Physicists for his Theory of the Universe. [Re: 2859558484]
    #11954307 - 02/03/10 01:16 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

He did a talk on this for Ted back in October.  Kind of cool how he explains it, makes sense and the math is sound...

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/garrett_lisi_on_his_theory_of_everything.html


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Re: Surfer Dude Praised By Physicists for his Theory of the Universe. [Re: Saidin]
    #11954348 - 02/03/10 01:26 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Kind of cool how he explains it, makes sense and the math is sound...





Unfortunately for him that is not sufficient for his hypothesis to become a scientific theory.


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Re: Surfer Dude Praised By Physicists for his Theory of the Universe. [Re: DieCommie]
    #11957786 - 02/03/10 09:08 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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DieCommie said:
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Kind of cool how he explains it, makes sense and the math is sound...





Unfortunately for him that is not sufficient for his hypothesis to become a scientific theory.




Its been sufficient for every other cosmological theory so far...  :shrug:


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Re: Surfer Dude Praised By Physicists for his Theory of the Universe. [Re: Saidin]
    #11957900 - 02/03/10 09:26 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Nope, every other cosmological theory has passed the test of experiment and observation.  They have quantitative, predicitive and descriptive power that surpasses the theories before them.  That is what is required in science, otherwise you are just doing mathematics.


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Re: BURNER AND TRIPPER Praised By Physicists for his Theory of the Universe. [Re: Luminous Numinous]
    #11958212 - 02/03/10 10:13 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Luminous Numinous said:
Everyone makes a big deal about homeboy being a surfer, but the fact that he drops acid and goes to Burning Man is more telling if you ask me. http://www.luminousnuminous.com/blog/?p=1137




That article says nothing about acid or LSD, but I can't get a good look at it because it keeps redirecting me to something about a Chinese Sex museum.


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Re: Surfer Dude Praised By Physicists for his Theory of the Universe. [Re: DieCommie]
    #11962226 - 02/04/10 02:35 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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DieCommie said:
Nope, every other cosmological theory has passed the test of experiment and observation.  They have quantitative, predicitive and descriptive power that surpasses the theories before them.  That is what is required in science, otherwise you are just doing mathematics.




Right...

Like the Big Bang "Theory" that has had to constantly invent new invisible forces like dark matter and dark energy in order to explain itself...

And please tell me of the experiments that have been done to verify  cosmological theory.  Observation yes, experiments...not so much.


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Re: Surfer Dude Praised By Physicists for his Theory of the Universe. [Re: Saidin]
    #11963014 - 02/04/10 04:37 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Dark matter and dark energy are not forces.

The difference between observations and experiment is moot, they are each observations.


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Re: Surfer Dude Praised By Physicists for his Theory of the Universe. [Re: DieCommie]
    #11963471 - 02/04/10 05:50 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

i read the article and i still dont get what his theory is?


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Re: Surfer Dude Praised By Physicists for his Theory of the Universe. [Re: aghorrorag]
    #11968052 - 02/05/10 10:38 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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DieCommie said:
Dark matter and dark energy are not forces.

The difference between observations and experiment is moot, they are each observations.




Fine lets call them aspects (the two most major ones) of the gravatational model of the Universe.  Semantics aside it still means that cosmologists are 94% in the dark (ie guessing) about what makes up our universe.  Sounds like a pretty insufficient theory to me.

The difference between observation and experiment is far from moot.  Might as well say that the difference between religion and science is moot, they are each ways of explaining the universe. 

Besides there are other theories whose "observations" explain things much better without having to constantly invent things in order to fit their theory.

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aghorrorag said:
i read the article and i still dont get what his theory is?




Watch the Ted video I posted above, it does a pretty good job of explaining it.


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Re: Surfer Dude Praised By Physicists for his Theory of the Universe. [Re: Saidin]
    #11968365 - 02/05/10 11:32 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Semantics aside it still means that cosmologists are 94% in the dark (ie guessing) about what makes up our universe.  Sounds like a pretty insufficient theory to me.





That may be, but surfer dude's theory does not provide any superior ability (at least not yet).  And no, its not guessing...  but that is a topic of another subject.

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The difference between observation and experiment is far from moot.  Might as well say that the difference between religion and science is moot, they are each ways of explaining the universe. 




Ha, you just compared it to religion vs science with no explanation at all.  Ill explain why the difference is moot.  If I want to find a law of gravity I can sit under a tree and wait for an apple to fall and observe what happens.  Or I can set up an experiment and drop an apple and then observe what happens.  It doesnt matter which way I do it - they are each observations.  If I want to find out how nature behaves when particles collide I can look into space and find particles that are colliding and observe what happens.  I could also build a collider experiment and then observe what happens.  In each case they are observations.  There is no real difference between observations and experiment.


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