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OfflineSporetastic
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What is the best psychedelic for visuals?
    #7657348 - 11/20/07 12:23 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

My old shroom trips were so visually amazing. But the past few times I have taken shrooms I have gotten some visuals like enhanced colors and some patterns but nothing like what I used to get. Could it be the species of shrooms. My last few trips have been lacking in the visual department but I get very mindfucked off them. Is there a psychadelic that has more visuals but with less mindfuck?
Don't get me wrong I don't hate shrooms and will do them again someday. Also my last trip was very rough and a huge mindfuck with very little visuals. Is salvia more visual?


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Re: What is the best psychedelic for visuals? [Re: Sporetastic]
    #7657410 - 11/20/07 12:46 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

2ct2 and 2c-e are supposed to be very visual.


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Re: What is the best psychedelic for visuals? [Re: Ness1]
    #7657423 - 11/20/07 12:50 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Most people seem to think its more determinate on your mindset and the setting... perhaps the situations of you last few "mindfuck" trips have been because of changes in those 2 variables, and less the difference in the mushroom.


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Re: What is the best psychedelic for visuals? [Re: andrewss]
    #7657444 - 11/20/07 01:00 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It really just depends on how much you take.

Is that not obvious?

They all produce unique visuals.

visuals are a great reflection of how your cognition is working.

Which one is best visually depends on how far you want to take your mind along with the visuals, which depends on the psychedelic being used.

For me its all the same, totally different.


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Re: What is the best psychedelic for visuals? [Re: yageman]
    #7657456 - 11/20/07 01:07 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Different drugs make different visuals...

I know a lot of people who say acid gives more visuals than mushrooms, but this is very untrue in my experience. The visuals are pretty goddamn different, that's for sure - on acid I see mazes, intricate patterns, and the very essence of vibration. Mushrooms show me vines and eyes, often in no particular order; they fill the darkness in my vision like webs. Other times on mushrooms I see chromosomes. Hard to describe.

Of course, I'm sure the best psychedelic for visuals, in terms of safe dosage/visual response ratio, is DMT. Traveling to other dimensions and worlds, in a very visual way, is commonly reported on DMT, and I can't say I've seen anything like that on the other psychedelics. Of course, I have yet to try it to myself.

I get more visuals the more I trip, personally. The more you've seen them, the more aware you are of their pre-existence. That said, try tripping somewhere else, try acid, or try a break.


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Re: What is the best psychedelic for visuals? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7657477 - 11/20/07 01:17 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

ummm . . . have you tried nitrous oxide on psilocybin or LSD ?

only problem is that memory gets fuzzy but . . . noo "visuals" . . . just alternate reality LOLOLOLOLOLXLXOXOLXXOOLXLXL


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Re: What is the best psychedelic for visuals? [Re: antiPock]
    #7657993 - 11/20/07 07:14 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i have the exact same problem as you. I;m looking for a psychedelic that has more visual and less mind fuck (last shroom trip i had a really bad and intense mind fuck).

Right now i got my eye on DMT. From what iv read once you "breakthrough" you are more or less in a sober state of mind just in a completly different reality, and i guess thats what im looking for.


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Re: What is the best psychedelic for visuals? [Re: Sporetastic]
    #7658077 - 11/20/07 07:59 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

2c-e!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

your describing 2c-e perfectly

no mindfuck at all so you can completely appreciate the visuals and the visuals are just breathtaking

everything is just liquid and painted and growing and shrinking

kinda like acid only much more pronounced

if you can find it i highly recommend it

you cant lay down or chill cause theres a physical unease but its not that bad


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Re: What is the best psychedelic for visuals? [Re: sirbojangles]
    #7659344 - 11/20/07 02:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I don't mean to nitpick, but I'd also suggest 2ci if you can get it. I've found it a lot "lighter" than 2ce(along with mescaline, the only Phenylethylamine I've had experience with), meaning I got a very pleasant body high, giddiness, strong visuals(completely different from mushrooms' visuals, though) with very little mind fuck.


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Re: What is the best psychedelic for visuals? [Re: Yossarian22]
    #7659739 - 11/20/07 04:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'd say DMT or Salvia. If you breakthru on either of those, game over.


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Re: What is the best psychedelic for visuals? [Re: c0_hush]
    #7659794 - 11/20/07 04:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

DMT/2CT7


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Re: What is the best psychedelic for visuals? [Re: 2859558484]
    #7659958 - 11/20/07 05:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

from what I've tried I would say eat about 5 hits of average/good acid


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Re: What is the best psychedelic for visuals? [Re: 2859558484]
    #7659996 - 11/20/07 05:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Are you serious? It's DMT. Just imagine that you have enough vials of crystal LSD to actually kill you....the visuals that you'd have right before dying would PROBABLY be in the area of a peak DMT trip, as far as intensity goes. The trick is not to fuck up when it comes to smoking DMT. By the 2nd hit, you'll probably feel like you're there just because you're motor functions shatter and you feel like you're riding the peak of a 10-strip acid trip, so have a friend there to force to to keep smoking and you'll have the most amazing visuals ever....even though the visuals are just a side effect of the overall trip. I havn't tried 2CT-7 yet, but I've heard it's pretty visual. I've done a lot of psychedelic phenethylamines, but I somehow doubt they can get as visual as the good old tryptamines.

If you want to have a good visual shroom trip, take 7+ dry grams of P. cubensis BLENDED with fruit juice. If you can get them fresh use 80+ wet grams; I've found them to give richer CEVs when they're wet. Tea is retarded compared to shroom shakes, so don't waste your mushrooms. Wait about 40 minutes to an hour after chugging the brew and then turn on a playlist of good tripping music, lay back in a dark room, and close your eyes. At first it's nothing special, but by the end of the 2nd or 3rd song, you should have some intense CEVs. Just remember to forget about all worldly problems, thoughts, and situations, and you'll be able to "drift" into a full-on visual trip for about 2 hours. This method is usually best for solo-missions. People can easily fuck it up with distractions....at least for me. By the way, THIS IS MY 420th POST!

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Re: What is the best psychedelic for visuals? [Re: Hippie Chemist]
    #7660452 - 11/20/07 07:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i've had really amazing visuals off just MDMA lately. they're very subtle but it's like i'm looking into the visual subconscious. in the dark these animations appear in thin air... like very dimly lit sillouhettes.

add some lsd, and they become a lot more vivid and full-blown with colors etc.

mdma + lsd FTW

or lsd + nitrous


forget breathing walls and morphing wood grain. we're talkin about ventures into different worlds.


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Re: What is the best psychedelic for visuals? [Re: kake]
    #7660587 - 11/20/07 08:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

LSD and MDMA is fruity loops!


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Re: What is the best psychedelic for visuals? [Re: kake]
    #7661074 - 11/20/07 11:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

kake said:
i've had really amazing visuals off just MDMA lately. they're very subtle but it's like i'm looking into the visual subconscious. in the dark these animations appear in thin air... like very dimly lit sillouhettes.

add some lsd, and they become a lot more vivid and full-blown with colors etc.

mdma + lsd FTW

or lsd + nitrous


forget breathing walls and morphing wood grain. we're talkin about ventures into different worlds.




its interesting that you say that because i've done e twice now, both times at night and have had the most pronounced visuals w/ regards to seeing something that isnt there. Mushrooms i see alot of flowing and warping but with e i saw like a big bag of doritos flying through the sky, and i saw a bunch of knights in jet black armor guarding the forest. Funny shit.

But yeah from what i hear DMT is what you want


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Re: What is the best psychedelic for visuals? [Re: TheHauntingSoul]
    #7661148 - 11/20/07 11:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i hate to break this to you, but DMT and Salvia are most certainly what you could call a "mindfuck"


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Re: What is the best psychedelic for visuals? [Re: TheHauntingSoul]
    #7661149 - 11/20/07 11:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

salvia? you go somewhere else on that. but it can be a mind fuck...

try 3.5 grams PE shrooms, powered into a drink.
this will make it all hit you at once and peak harder.
i had a level 5 out-of-body experience doing this, i couldn't figure out what i was. my girlfriend got sick of me laying thier muttering "what are we?!" and saw the crazyest shit.


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Re: What is the best psychedelic for visuals? [Re: Enothe]
    #7661383 - 11/21/07 12:54 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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my girlfriend got sick of me laying thier muttering "what are we?!" and saw the crazyest shit.




Haha!! Oh man, that reminds me of the one time I smoke way too much weed and all I could say was "i don't know anything!!" and kept repeating it over and over.. Good times.. lol!


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Re: What is the best psychedelic for visuals? [Re: Sporetastic]
    #7661686 - 11/21/07 06:18 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Smoked DMT or a high dose of Ayahuasca. I drank Ayahuasca on a camping trip, left the field we were in to go to the shop, came back and saw Woodstock happening. Hundreds of thousands of elves having a massive festival. Strange days indeed.


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