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TylerxDurden
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Mushroom questions (stupid?)
#7655715 - 11/19/07 04:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just bought what was said to be 1/8th of an ounce of shrooms for 50$. I don't have a scale, and I have never bought shrooms before so I was wondering
1. Is it really 1/8th an ounce (obviously you can't tell FOR SURE, but I was hoping for just a guess) 2. What kind of shrooms are they (I have a feeling they're cubes, but just wanted to double check) 3. Should this amount last for more than one trip.
Here is a photo...

and a larger image (click the thumbnail)

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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
#7655722 - 11/19/07 04:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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That looks like about an 1/8. But 50 bucks man did you get ripped, I would not pay more than 30$ for an eighth, and yes they are cubes. I would trip on them all at once to get a strong trip and find out what shrooms are capable of.
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: Gr33nTree73]
#7655773 - 11/19/07 04:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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echoes73 said: That looks like about an 1/8. But 50 bucks man did you get ripped, I would not pay more than 30$ for an eighth, and yes they are cubes. I would trip on them all at once to get a strong trip and find out what shrooms are capable of.
Yeah, I know the price was pretty steep, but shrooms are nearly impossible to come by for me so I jumped on the opportunity.
I don't know much about the stems vs caps, dosage wise. Seems like most people say the caps are the most potent part, but I remember reading somewhere that the stems actually have *some* psilocybin and psilocin. What is the deal with this exactly, do caps have that much more active compounds in them?
Basically, I'm trying to decide how I would split this little pile up, if I decided to do two trips.
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
#7655781 - 11/19/07 04:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Caps are more potent, but they both contain active alkaloids. Honestly, I'd eat the whole thing at once. You paid $50 so you need to get your money's worth!
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: Ness1]
#7655834 - 11/19/07 04:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ness1 said: Caps are more potent, but they both contain active alkaloids. Honestly, I'd eat the whole thing at once. You paid $50 so you need to get your money's worth!
Yeah, I was kinda thinking that too, but then I started thinking about taking some St Johns Wort so I could get two trips out of this amount. I'm still debating whether or not to do the whole thing all at once...
On the one hand, I want to get as many "trips" as possible, but then again, I really want to have one, intense trip. that's why I started thinking about the St johns wort (there was a recent thread here about it)
So hard to decide
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
#7655842 - 11/19/07 05:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Take the St. John's and the whole 8th. and just trip nuts. IMO, one very strong trip is better than 2 medium strength trips.
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: Ness1]
#7655869 - 11/19/07 05:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ness1 said: Take the St. John's and the whole 8th. and just trip nuts. IMO, one very strong trip is better than 2 medium strength trips.
agreed, low dose trips don't provide the insight an visuals you probably want and you'll be disappointed. Take the whole eighth and be amazed...
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: Gr33nTree73]
#7655884 - 11/19/07 05:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hmmm
has anyone tried taking them with an MAOI? I wanted to know if it will deminish the psychedelic effects and enhance the emotional (euphoria), which is what I don't want.
Maybe I'll just take them with some lemon juice...so many decisions to make right now.
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
#7655900 - 11/19/07 05:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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the lemon juice is great for about 2 grams but for an 1/8 ounce just take them straight they will be intense enough
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: Gr33nTree73]
#7655964 - 11/19/07 05:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well yeah, if I was to use the St Johns Wort and lemon juice I would do it with the split up doses (if I was to split the amount in half, and get two trips).
If I decide to take the full 1/8th I would just take the shrooms, nothing else.
Would splitting it in two, and taking lemon juice and St Johns Wort with each make it intense enough?
It would be about 1.75 grams with lemon juice and St Johns Wort...
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
#7655971 - 11/19/07 05:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Theres no way to tell as there is no way to tell exactly how potent your shrooms are, which is why I advocate taking the whole 8th with the lemon, to ensure you get a strong trip.
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
#7656024 - 11/19/07 05:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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First, I don't believe any genuine question is ever stupid.
Regarding caps vs. stems, I've never seen any statistically valid evidence to indicate a significant difference in potency between the two. And no clear trend has emerged to confirm this consensus from people. If there is a universal, generalizable difference then it isn't significant enough to bother considering. MAOIs should potentiate all of the effects, non-sensory as well as sensory; (just remember to take the appropriate precautions if and when you take an MAOI.) Until someone establishes a psychopharmacological basis for St. John's Wort potentiating psilocybin mushrooms you should regard this as totally unproven, (though the placebo effect is very well documented.)
I'd eat the lot in one trip. I wanna say more but gotta go now...
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: Land_Crab]
#7656047 - 11/19/07 05:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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If what Wikipedia says is true, than taking 1.75 grams with an MAOI should be about the same as 3.5g (1/8th)
"People taking MAOIs need to be careful, as psilocybin and psilocin are metabolized by the enzyme monoamine oxidase. A MAOI reduces the body's ability to handle the mushrooms (roughly doubling their potency), and can lead to an unpleasant, prolonged, or dangerously strong experience."
Who knows the validity of that though...
Thanks for that info, I just didn't want to get flamed by some of the "veterans" who sometimes get pissed at questions like this,
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
#7656142 - 11/19/07 06:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Maybe it's just me, but that doesn't look like 1/8 at all. And if this is your first time, I would recommend just eating all of those on an empty stomach without anything else. The lemon juice and maoi will both add different atmospheres to the trip, and it's nice to experience the shrooms alone, you'll be so amazed
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: MooshRage]
#7656448 - 11/19/07 07:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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that doesnt look like an 8th at all, maybe a teener at best (1/16) but they are cubes. also...the caps have the same potency as stems. the whole mushroom is just as potent as any otrher part of it. unless your tolerance is freakishly low then u want to eat those all at once
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yeah u got majorly ripped off, and its maybe 2.5 grams. (i grew mushrooms i know these things) They are cubes.
Take them with maybe a vitamin c, or some orange juice... then smoke some pot whilst tripping...
That's how you ensure a strong trip.
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: RedRainDrop]
#7656807 - 11/19/07 09:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was gonna say that it looked a little short too.
Take 'em all at once and invest in a scale that weighs to a tenth of a gram. That way you can at least complain about it if it happens again.
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
#7657612 - 11/20/07 02:21 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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So, what is your experience with hallucinogens (if any)? Is this your first time? What other drugs have you taken?
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: Land_Crab]
#7657959 - 11/20/07 06:49 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Land_Crab said: So, what is your experience with hallucinogens (if any)? Is this your first time? What other drugs have you taken?
About 10-12 LSA trips, two of which I would classify as "level 4". (I know most people don't like that system, but it seems like the best way to describe it right now)
Other than that, I've tripped once on shrooms, but it was only a very small amount and I did it with a friend who basically assured me that I was getting 1.5 grams. I did trip, but not very hard...
Other than that just lots of weed a few heavy DXM "trips".
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
#7658122 - 11/20/07 08:30 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wouldn't take MAOI w/ shrooms until you have a couple heavier shroom trips under your belt. It can easily get out of control for someone not used to the effects.
Also, MAOI potentiation works with a POTENT MAOI, such as a pharmaceutical grade one or our organic allies like Syrian Rue and B. Caapi. St. Johns Wort is no where near a significant source of an MAOI enough to significantly potentiate a trip. Although it wouldn't hurt, and may have a *slight* effect it would likely not be noticeable. I would stick with syrian rue seeds as an effective MAOI for mushrooms, but only after you have a couple 3.5g+ shroom trips under your belt.
I would take what you have w/ lemon honestly. It looks like not even an 1/8th, very short. I wouldn't split any off of that unless you want a very lackluster experience.
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
#7658650 - 11/20/07 11:23 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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You got ripped off pretty badly. Sorry to say but that's not an 1/8 (not even nearly an 1/8). Also, for the price of $50 you should be able to find at least a 1/4. $50 for an 1/8? The highest ever I've heard someone selling them for was $40 and I turned it down for obvious reasons. Don't spend more than $25-30 for a 1/8.
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: MorphMan]
#7659509 - 11/20/07 03:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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MorphMan said: You got ripped off pretty badly. Sorry to say but that's not an 1/8 (not even nearly an 1/8). Also, for the price of $50 you should be able to find at least a 1/4. $50 for an 1/8? The highest ever I've heard someone selling them for was $40 and I turned it down for obvious reasons. Don't spend more than $25-30 for a 1/8.
Yeah, I realize how ridiculous it is and at least now I have an idea of what I should be getting whenever someone says it's an eighth. I told my connect that for 60, I want at least a quad. Hopefully those will be coming in soon.
I was thinking about when to take them. I'm going up with some friends to Las Vegas (from LA) and was wondering what it would be like to eat them before the trip. (I wouldn't be driving of course). Whenever I do LSA I pretty much trip in my room, and it gets kinda "boring". I was thinking that just sitting back and watching the world go by out the window might be at the very least, interesting. I would have some good music, which seems like it should make it a fun, relaxing trip. However, I'm wondering if this is a good idea, or if I'm setting myself up for a bad trip (I honestly can't think of how it would end up badly, but I thought I should at least consider it)
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
#7659636 - 11/20/07 04:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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One more question...after looking at the erowid page for shrooms, it says that "mild to severe anxiety" and "intense feelings of fear" are sometimes encountered. Now, I've had what might be considered a "bad trip' on LSA, where I had both of those symptoms. Normally though, I don't feel ANY anxiety while tripping. I have basically no experience with shrooms, so I'm wondering how common this is. I know that with weed, it is very common for me to feel some pretty intense anxiety and paranoia. How are shrooms in this respect? How common is it to have anxiety or fear while tripping (assuming everything is going fine). With LSA, I'm actually quite euphoric the whole time but I know they are different substances that should be treated differently. If it is likely to feel anxiety/parnoia while tripping, would taking a benzo kill the psychedelic aspect?
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
#7660158 - 11/20/07 06:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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anxiety and fear have never happened to me on shrooms and ive tripped more times then i can count. if you have recently encouteredd a bad situation in life thta is bothering you, then dont eat them becasue thta will cause anxiety most likely. wait until your in the right mindset and enjoy the ride
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CubensisCutter said: anxiety and fear have never happened to me on shrooms and ive tripped more times then i can count. if you have recently encouteredd a bad situation in life thta is bothering you, then dont eat them becasue thta will cause anxiety most likely. wait until your in the right mindset and enjoy the ride
Alright, awesome. I kind of figured that the fear and anxiety they mentioned were relating to a bad trip, and not a very common occurance. I'm not going through anything remotely distrubing, and depending on the advice here, I might be tripping tomorrow.
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: SDP]
#7660337 - 11/20/07 07:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'd say take all of them, no lemon juice, no St Johns.
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
#7660338 - 11/20/07 07:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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For me, I usually encounter mild anxiety at some point in my trip, occasionally mild anxiety is present the whole trip. I don't let it bother me.
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: Ness1]
#7660383 - 11/20/07 07:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Does anyone have any knowledge about taking benzos while tripping? (Hopefully to help the anxiety, but not diminish the psychedelic effects)
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
#7660546 - 11/20/07 08:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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TylerxDurden said: I was thinking about when to take them. I'm going up with some friends to Las Vegas (from LA) and was wondering what it would be like to eat them before the trip. (I wouldn't be driving of course).
If you want to do that, then leave for Vegas in the late afternoon. Take the shrooms a couple hours after you leave L.A. This way, by the time you get to Vegas, it will be dark, and you will be able to enjoy the lights of the Vegas Strip while the effects of the shrooms are near their peak. :-)
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I was considering that, but then again, I don't exactly want to be tripping in Vegas. Call me weird, but it doesn't sound like a suitable place (for me at least). Maybe I should go into a Fear and Loathing mindset
Has anyone had any experience tripping in a moving vehicle? It sounds like a good idea to me, but then again, I don't know exactly how the shrooms will affect me. With LSA, I don't really want to move around, and there is a big body load to it which kind of keeps me "static". By the way, it wouldn't be a small car by any means. It's a large van type thing and you can fully straighten your legs and stuff, so it wouldn't be cramped (which I imagine would be one of the possible negatives...)
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
#7660809 - 11/20/07 09:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have been driven around while tripping before. It is really quite fun. However sometimes while tripping one experiences the urge to get away from people who aren't tripping and this is kind of hard in a car. However if you are with good close friends I can't imagine that it would turn into a serious problem.
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: bait_]
#7661011 - 11/20/07 10:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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The anxiety is worst for me during the come-up, and i have yet to discover the proper arrangement for what i eat before hand and when i eat it that is best for preventing it but i find that i'm super anxious when i take them up until i peak partially because i am so fucking excited to be tripping again and partially because my stomach just starts to toss and turn and get all wobbly when i start coming up.
Set and setting is the important thing, if you have any variety of music playing device (if your driving make sure you have a cd player or tape deck or something) because i find that a favourite song can save you from the depths of the most horrible trip.
Tripping in a car sounds like a fuckload of fun though, seeing everything pass by and thinking all the shit you would think, it would be like a regular trip only like 100+kmh (yeah i'm canadian, get over it)
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no way is that an eigth. i think u got ripped imo
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: bait_]
#7661024 - 11/20/07 10:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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On my first shroom trip, the car ride was the best part!! sitting in a car watching stuff fly by zoning out to music with the wind blowing in your face is the best. And if your with your friends, you'll be fine tripping by them even if they're sober for the most part, and if not they'll understand if your just doing your own thing and not really chattin it up. As for the anxiety and stuff.... the first few times I tripped, i had some mild anxiety... thinking to myself... dude, what if i get anxiety during the trip and freak out!!! but than once the trip sets in, i get to a point where i'm just like, wow, i was scared about this? This is life!! i can handle this! i bet you'll have a point like that too, where you just realize there's nothing to be afraid of. Don't over think this. Basically, have a good mindset, good friends, and you'll have a good time. tell us how it goes.
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: GigaHurtz1]
#7661035 - 11/20/07 11:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Alright, I always thought it would be fun to trip while on a trip (car trip )
Now I need to find a good movie on itunes so I can put it on my new fancy iPod... Any suggestions?
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
#7661049 - 11/20/07 11:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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TylerxDurden said: Alright, I always thought it would be fun to trip while on a trip (car trip )
Now I need to find a good movie on itunes so I can put it on my new fancy iPod... Any suggestions?
waking life, hands down especially if you havent seen it yet because it raises so many philosophical questions about the nature of life and consciousness etc, and thats perfect on shrooms because i find i always raise these sorts of questions myself. Its very trippy, animated over live-action film, and the entire movie is basically different people discussing their interesting theories on things, youtube it up if your interested.
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Personally, i'd rather just chill, think, listen to music and talk to my friends. i think i'd get bored of staring at a small ipod screen, probably distracted too hah. I have never watched a movie tripping though so i dunno
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: GigaHurtz1]
#7661112 - 11/20/07 11:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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GigaHurtz1 said: Personally, i'd rather just chill, think, listen to music and talk to my friends. i think i'd get bored of staring at a small ipod screen, probably distracted too hah. I have never watched a movie tripping though so i dunno
Yeah, after giving it another thought, I think that I will be entertained enough without a movie. The small screen sucks anyways
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: SDP]
#7661163 - 11/20/07 11:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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ya, thats about 1.5 grams give or take .2 grams, or maybe one of those stems is really dense making it at the most, 1.75 grams.
You did get ripped off heavily.
They are cubes.
St johns wort is hardly an effective maoi. Its kind of like passion flower. It can add a boost but it for the most part is utter bullshit. You cant really compare rue or caapi to passionflower.
Maois will make the trip different and more intense as long as you use enough maoi, which is not hard to figure out if you read about it and realize that rue can atleast double the effects of the mushrooms at the 3 gram range.
But ya, you got ripped off hard core.
In all seriousness, that looks like 1.5 grams at best.
That amount makes me trip balls, so have fun. I shit you not about the weight though. Its probably less than 1.5 grams if you are lucky.
Somebody fucked with you BIG TIME.
I mean, fuggin BIG TIME.
My guess is that you have less than 1.5 grams there and it cost you 50 dollars.
Im sorry, but that is much less than 1/8th and you payed 50 dollars for it.
Just look at that dime sitting next to your shrooms. Im sad to give you such an unfortunate, but true answer to your question.
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TylerxDurden
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: yageman]
#7663026 - 11/21/07 01:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Alright, that kinda makes me a little depressed, but it's all over with now and getting mad at my dealer won't solve much. It just sucks though, getting ripped off (and it's like the 5th time too with this guy)
My main question now is, Does taking a benzo such as Klonopin 4 hours before the trip effect the psychedelic nature of the trip at all? I want to be relaxed and a little euphoric going into it, but wait until after I peak on the benzo before dosing the shrooms. That way, only a smaller amount will be in my bloodstream by ther time the trip comes around. Thanks again, you've all been a great help.
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Ness1
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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
#7663049 - 11/21/07 01:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dude, if he rips you off, call him out on it, don't let him keep doing it. Don't take a benzo anywhere near when you trip, it will do little more than diminish the trip.
-------------------- I know what they'll find, it's in their mind, it's what they want to see. Spare me from the light, here comes the night and here I'll stay, waiting for darkness.
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