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    #7655715 - 11/19/07 04:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I just bought what was said to be 1/8th of an ounce of shrooms for 50$. I don't have a scale, and I have never bought shrooms before so I was wondering

1. Is it really 1/8th an ounce (obviously you can't tell FOR SURE, but I was hoping for just a guess)
2. What kind of shrooms are they (I have a feeling they're cubes, but just wanted to double check)
3. Should this amount last for more than one trip.

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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
    #7655722 - 11/19/07 04:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

That looks like about an 1/8.  But 50 bucks man did you get ripped, I would not pay more than 30$ for an eighth, and yes they are cubes.  I would trip on them all at once to get a strong trip and find out what shrooms are capable of. :thumbup:


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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: Gr33nTree73]
    #7655773 - 11/19/07 04:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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That looks like about an 1/8.  But 50 bucks man did you get ripped, I would not pay more than 30$ for an eighth, and yes they are cubes.  I would trip on them all at once to get a strong trip and find out what shrooms are capable of. :thumbup:



Yeah, I know the price was pretty steep, but shrooms are nearly impossible to come by for me so I jumped on the opportunity.

I don't know much about the stems vs caps, dosage wise. Seems like most people say the caps are the most potent part, but I remember reading somewhere that the stems actually have *some*  psilocybin and psilocin. What is the deal with this exactly, do caps have that much more active compounds in them?

Basically, I'm trying to decide how I would split this little pile up, if I decided to do two trips.


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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
    #7655781 - 11/19/07 04:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Caps are more potent, but they both contain active alkaloids. Honestly, I'd eat the whole thing at once. You paid $50 so you need to get your money's worth!


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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: Ness1]
    #7655834 - 11/19/07 04:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Caps are more potent, but they both contain active alkaloids. Honestly, I'd eat the whole thing at once. You paid $50 so you need to get your money's worth!



Yeah, I was kinda thinking that too, but then I started thinking about taking some St Johns Wort so I could get two trips out of this amount. I'm still debating whether or not to do the whole thing all at once...

On the one hand, I want to get as many "trips" as possible, but then again, I really want to have one, intense trip. that's why I started thinking about the St johns wort (there was a recent thread here about it)

So hard to decide


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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
    #7655842 - 11/19/07 05:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Take the St. John's and the whole 8th. and just trip nuts. IMO, one very strong trip is better than 2 medium strength trips.


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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: Ness1]
    #7655869 - 11/19/07 05:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Take the St. John's and the whole 8th. and just trip nuts. IMO, one very strong trip is better than 2 medium strength trips.


agreed, low dose trips don't provide the insight an visuals you probably want and you'll be disappointed. Take the whole eighth and be amazed...


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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: Gr33nTree73]
    #7655884 - 11/19/07 05:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Hmmm

has anyone tried taking them with an MAOI? I wanted to know if it will deminish the psychedelic effects and enhance the emotional (euphoria), which is what I don't want.

Maybe I'll just take them with some lemon juice...so many decisions to make right now.


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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
    #7655900 - 11/19/07 05:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

the lemon juice is great for about 2 grams but for an 1/8 ounce just take them straight they will be intense enough


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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: Gr33nTree73]
    #7655964 - 11/19/07 05:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Well yeah, if I was to use the St Johns Wort and lemon juice I would do it with the split up doses (if I was to split the amount in half, and get two trips).

If I decide to take the full 1/8th I would just take the shrooms, nothing else.

Would splitting it in two, and taking lemon juice and St Johns Wort with each make it intense enough?

It would be about 1.75 grams with lemon juice and St Johns Wort...


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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
    #7655971 - 11/19/07 05:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Theres no way to tell as there is no way to tell exactly how potent your shrooms are, which is why I advocate taking the whole 8th with the lemon, to ensure you get a strong trip.


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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
    #7656024 - 11/19/07 05:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

First, I don't believe any genuine question is ever stupid.

Regarding caps vs. stems, I've never seen any statistically valid evidence to indicate a significant difference in potency between the two. And no clear trend has emerged to confirm this consensus from people. If there is a universal, generalizable difference then it isn't significant enough to bother considering.
MAOIs should potentiate all of the effects, non-sensory as well as sensory; (just remember to take the appropriate precautions if and when you take an MAOI.) Until someone establishes a psychopharmacological basis for St. John's Wort potentiating psilocybin mushrooms you should regard this as totally unproven, (though the placebo effect is very well documented.)

I'd eat the lot in one trip. I wanna say more but gotta go now...


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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: Land_Crab]
    #7656047 - 11/19/07 05:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If what Wikipedia says is true, than taking 1.75 grams with an MAOI should be about the same as 3.5g (1/8th)

"People taking MAOIs need to be careful, as psilocybin and psilocin are metabolized by the enzyme monoamine oxidase. A MAOI reduces the body's ability to handle the mushrooms (roughly doubling their potency), and can lead to an unpleasant, prolonged, or dangerously strong experience."

Who knows the validity of that though...:smirk:

Thanks for that info, I just didn't want to get flamed by some of the "veterans" who sometimes get pissed at questions like this,


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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
    #7656142 - 11/19/07 06:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe it's just me, but that doesn't look like 1/8 at all. And if this is your first time, I would recommend just eating all of those on an empty stomach without anything else. The lemon juice and maoi will both add different atmospheres to the trip, and it's nice to experience the shrooms alone, you'll be so amazed :laugh:


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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: MooshRage]
    #7656448 - 11/19/07 07:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

that doesnt look like an 8th at all, maybe a teener at best (1/16) but they are cubes. also...the caps have the same potency as stems. the whole mushroom is just as potent as any otrher part of it. unless your tolerance is freakishly low then u want to eat those all at once


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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: CubensisCutter]
    #7656588 - 11/19/07 08:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yeah u got majorly ripped off, and its maybe 2.5 grams. (i grew mushrooms i know these things) They are cubes.

Take them with maybe a vitamin c, or some orange juice... then smoke some pot whilst tripping...

That's how you ensure a strong trip.


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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: RedRainDrop]
    #7656807 - 11/19/07 09:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I was gonna say that it looked a little short too.

Take 'em all at once and invest in a scale that weighs to a tenth of a gram. That way you can at least complain about it if it happens again.


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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
    #7657612 - 11/20/07 02:21 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

So, what is your experience with hallucinogens (if any)? Is this your first time? What other drugs have you taken?


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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: Land_Crab]
    #7657959 - 11/20/07 06:49 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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So, what is your experience with hallucinogens (if any)? Is this your first time? What other drugs have you taken?



About 10-12 LSA trips, two of which I would classify as "level 4". (I know most people don't like that system, but it seems like the best way to describe it right now)

Other than that, I've tripped once on shrooms, but it was only a very small amount and I did it with a friend who basically assured me that I was getting 1.5 grams. I did trip, but not very hard...

Other than that just lots of weed a few heavy DXM "trips".


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Re: Mushroom questions (stupid?) [Re: TylerxDurden]
    #7658122 - 11/20/07 08:30 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't take MAOI w/ shrooms until you have a couple heavier shroom trips under your belt. It can easily get out of control for someone not used to the effects.

Also, MAOI potentiation works with a POTENT MAOI, such as a pharmaceutical grade one or our organic allies like Syrian Rue and B. Caapi. St. Johns Wort is no where near a significant source of an MAOI enough to significantly potentiate a trip. Although it wouldn't hurt, and may have a *slight* effect it would likely not be noticeable. I would stick with syrian rue seeds as an effective MAOI for mushrooms, but only after you have a couple 3.5g+ shroom trips under your belt.

I would take what you have w/ lemon honestly. It looks like not even an 1/8th, very short. I wouldn't split any off of that unless you want a very lackluster experience.


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