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InvisibleIcelander
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How to save America
    #7655408 - 11/19/07 03:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Don't allow anyone over 50 to vote or run for political office. After that age most Americans are consumed with fear of death and safety issues. This makes them want to control everything they can and to hoard wealth. Younger people are more concerned with experience and living and have faith and trust in life. Think about this and you might agree. Tired fearful old men are in control.


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Re: How to save America [Re: Icelander]
    #7655430 - 11/19/07 03:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Not only that, but old timers tend to stick with what they've voted for in the past without really pausing to ask themselves if things have changed. If you've been voting Liberal (in Canada) for your whole life chances are a change of vote will be difficult. I think this is part of the reason why parties like the Green Party aren't getting as many votes as they should be, imo.


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Re: How to save America [Re: Icelander]
    #7655489 - 11/19/07 03:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Damn you, seniors! :hissyfit:


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Re: How to save America [Re: WScott]
    #7655491 - 11/19/07 03:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Personally, I think they should be allowed to vote. Every demographic needs to be represented equally. If it weren't for the old people, who would bring up issues like nursing home abuse and overpriced medications? The real problem is that older people are over-represented because the younger people don't come out to vote. People should get voting day as a paid holiday from work provided that they show their employer proof that they voted. The biggest reason no one else votes is because everyone else has to go to work and has shit to do, while old people have retirement money and nothing else to do, so they vote.


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Re: How to save America [Re: WScott]
    #7655514 - 11/19/07 04:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

we don't vote for a party

we vote for a representative

that is one of the few advantages of a fptp electoral system, the guarantee of regional representation ... a real person

when you vote for a party you are voting for an organization without human values

i would never vote green just for the sake of green, i would vote green because the representative who is affiliated with the green party is the best person for the job

but most people don't think this way and i clearly see the negative results of this in canada


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Re: How to save America [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #7655547 - 11/19/07 04:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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adjust said:
we don't vote for a party

we vote for a representative

that is one of the few advantages of a fptp electoral system, the guarantee of regional representation ... a real person

when you vote for a party you are voting for an organization without human values

i would never vote green just for the sake of green, i would vote green because the representative who is affiliated with the green party is the best person for the job

but most people don't think this way and i clearly see the negative results of this in canada




You're right, the best guy for the job in america right now is Ron Paul and he is a republican oddly enough.


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Re: How to save America [Re: Psilocin Dreams]
    #7655565 - 11/19/07 04:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You mean "in your completely subjective opinion the best person who is running for election is RP don't you.


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Re: How to save America [Re: Psilocin Dreams]
    #7655681 - 11/19/07 04:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yay! Ru Paul for president.



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Re: How to save America [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7655706 - 11/19/07 04:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

wage a personal psyop campaign of every moment, the mass movement of control deserve the whimsically calculated flick of the forked tongue. really, its like the mustard seed parable. weeners away


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Re: How to save America [Re: Icelander]
    #7655759 - 11/19/07 04:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

How about don't let anybody run for office...that seems more sensible.


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Re: How to save America [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7655767 - 11/19/07 04:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Nobody for president! If nobody wins, then nobody loses.


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Re: How to save America [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7656158 - 11/19/07 06:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
How about don't let anybody run for office...that seems more sensible.




I think you may be on to something...


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Re: How to save America [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #7656948 - 11/19/07 09:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Damn, very good point. The more I think about it, the more bullshit it is that people in their 50's or older are in control.


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Re: How to save America [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7658416 - 11/20/07 10:40 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
How about don't let anybody run for office...that seems more sensible.




Unfortunately that won't work. Humans mostly want to be lead. So we should make the best of a bad situation.


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Re: How to save America [Re: Icelander]
    #7658448 - 11/20/07 10:48 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds good. But how do u go about bringing it to reality. The older 'uns would be difficult to dislodge.


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Re: How to save America [Re: shakercee]
    #7658499 - 11/20/07 11:00 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Can't do it. It's just a mind game. Just noticing where the problem lies.


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Edited by Icelander (11/20/07 11:00 AM)


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Re: How to save America [Re: Icelander]
    #7658587 - 11/20/07 11:13 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Icelander said:
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Huehuecoyotl said:
How about don't let anybody run for office...that seems more sensible.




Unfortunately that won't work. Humans mostly want to be lead. So we should make the best of a bad situation.




i love the idea hue puts forth, but i see ice's point too.
unfortunately american youth are largely brainwashed by the ignorance of their forebears. look at the emotional "maturity" of so called adults... is there something that makes you think their progeny are going to do any better?


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Re: How to save America [Re: Icelander]
    #7658635 - 11/20/07 11:19 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Soilent Green !


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Re: How to save America [Re: Clean]
    #7658664 - 11/20/07 11:26 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

is there something that makes you think their progeny are going to do any better?

Well my real view on the subject is quite dark and without too much hope for current civilization.

But still it's a fact IMO that youth is less unhealthy then the old ossified curmudgeons.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: How to save America [Re: Icelander]
    #7658766 - 11/20/07 11:43 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Don't allow anyone over 50 to vote or run for political office. After that age most Americans are consumed with fear of death and safety issues. This makes them want to control everything they can and to hoard wealth. Younger people are more concerned with experience and living and have faith and trust in life. Think about this and you might agree. Tired fearful old men are in control.




Purdy much:thumbup:

Moving the capital to the west coast couldn't hurt either :rasta:


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