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OfflineTurntableJunky
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Joints are a waste.
    #7653449 - 11/19/07 03:17 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Of Weed:crankey:


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: TurntableJunky]
    #7653452 - 11/19/07 03:19 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Agreed!


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #7653453 - 11/19/07 03:19 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Even with making one with a big roach in it, it's still a waste. It's burning when you're not toking it. And if I was to use the weed I have now, a joint would be too much.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: TurntableJunky]
    #7653470 - 11/19/07 03:41 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

:nonono:


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7653565 - 11/19/07 05:40 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

:yesnod:


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: TurntableJunky]
    #7653608 - 11/19/07 06:24 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

true. but still fun to roll/smoke occasionally


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: demiu5]
    #7653612 - 11/19/07 06:27 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah. There's something about a nicely rolled joint that you just can't get from any other smoking utensil!


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: TurntableJunky]
    #7653632 - 11/19/07 06:39 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Although they are a waste, it's a different experience to smoke them. They're much more casual than a pipe or bong, as you only have to light it once (if it's well rolled) and can pass it easily. Also because of that they're much nicer for those winters when you need to smoke outside, they prevent your thumbs from becoming blocks of ice when trying to light a bowl for an hour.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: demiu5]
    #7654455 - 11/19/07 12:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

demius said:
true. but still fun to roll/smoke occasionally




Agreed


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7654489 - 11/19/07 12:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Gastronomicus said:
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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: TurntableJunky]
    #7654520 - 11/19/07 12:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

this post inspired me to roll a fat j of some og kush...

:potleaf::rainbowcloud:


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: MistaUNGA]
    #7654591 - 11/19/07 12:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Alot of my mates enjoy smoking bongs and pipes. I enjoy a bong everynow and then but there is nothing like just sitting back and chillin out with a joint!  :grin:


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: gENERIX]
    #7654611 - 11/19/07 12:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i am a spliff addict


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: TurntableJunky]
    #7654616 - 11/19/07 12:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

if you have a good amount of weed it really doesn't matter that they are a waste.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: gENERIX]
    #7654621 - 11/19/07 12:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i wanted to do a research experiment one time.


It involved rolling 3 blunts of equal weight:
-Blunt 1 would be smoked CONSISTENTLY (and timed via stopwatch). It would be smoked in a circle of people, with as much downtime eliminated as possible (pass EXTREMELY QUICKLY, dont wait inbetween hits), essentially, a constantly smoked blunt.
-Blunt 2 would be the idle blunt. It would be rolled and lit (someone would have to puff it to get it lit), but once it was lit, it would just sit there with a breeze blowing on it (from a fan or something of the sort) until it went out (timed with a stopwatch).
-Blunt 3 would be smoked normally by a group of individuals, with normal passing and breaks inbetween hits. Someone with two stopwatches would count the amount of time the blunt was being hit and the amount of time it was idle inbetween puffs/passes whatever.

I think if we could calculate the rate of burn for each of the first two blunts, we could calculate the inefficiencies of smoking a blunt based off the observation of the 3rd.

Now - i thought of this when i was high one day, and i'm a business management/econ major (not science related at all, so im' not good with setting up the scientific method).

Basically, i'm really intrigued to find out the percentage of a blunt/joint that is wasted by sitting idle.

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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: aDoS]
    #7654624 - 11/19/07 12:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yeah i want a spliff sooo bad now.
i liek em cus it helps you cut back on a little bit of weed, and if you dont smoke tobbacoo like me you still get a monster head rush frm the mary jane backy combo :smile:


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: TurntableJunky]
    #7654721 - 11/19/07 01:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

TurntableJunky said:
Of Weed:crankey:




Anyone who requires an entire joint to get high ...

1: Has a very high tolerance - it's time for them to take a break
2: Is using rather crappy marijuana. Dump that shit
3: Only takes a couple of hits off the entire thing.

If you get decent quality stuff, a couple of hits from a good bong will get you loaded.
I would never roll a joint myself. Just not efficient.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7654736 - 11/19/07 01:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

joints are the most relaxing form of smoking pot. It doesn't feel right passing a bag of vapor around a circle. My personal fav though is bong, my good ol' bong!


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: quiksilver98]
    #7654781 - 11/19/07 01:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Joints are a waste, but man I can get an ounce of midies for like $100. The same amount of money only gets 7 grams of good shit.

Sometimes it's nice to be a gluton and just roll a fat ass joint. Plus with mids, it's not that big of a deal.

Joints are real nice to bring to shows and such. I'm really attached to my pipe and would be quite devastated if it were confiscated. Having to pitch a joint is not nearly as big a deal to me as if I were to lose my pipe, which I've had for years.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: circularvortex]
    #7654840 - 11/19/07 01:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I love joints.... big fat joints of afgahnixnorthernlights man... mmmmmmmmmm


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: TurntableJunky]
    #7654880 - 11/19/07 02:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You're right, they usually are a waste (as stated because of the constant burning, etc.), however, they are indeed quite convient for concerts.. and if you're ever about to be searched, you can just swallow the joint whereas you probably would not be able to do the same with a bowl...


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: ThePeruvianTorch]
    #7655023 - 11/19/07 02:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Blunts are much less of a waste, if you can roll any good. I love blunts. A lot of smoke comes off of your bowl that you don't inhale too buddy, unless you're a jew about it and cap it with something haha. Plus most people don't think about this, but the resin builds up in the joint/blunt as you smoke it and then it gets burned up giving you a different (better, imo) high. With a bowl the resin just sticks to the glass, think about how much that wastes if you don't scrape your bowl. And even if you do there's still a ton of shit inside. Blunts are more convenient if you have to be sneaky or if you want to smoke in public. Plus rolling is part of my life haha.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7655232 - 11/19/07 03:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

you can smoke resinated bowl by pulling the flame through wityh mouth

cigarette smokers if switch to hand rolling can playce nug in end of cigareete and inhale all of the smoke without wasting any and then enjoy thei tobacco afterwards

sublingual/oral administration nice


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: machination]
    #7655400 - 11/19/07 03:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

not really you have to scrape it so it will burn, the resin on my bowl doesn't just burn.. otherwise when you smoke a bowl it would burn, duh. Everyone on this forum is too good to smoke resin anyway.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7655437 - 11/19/07 03:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

With joints even though you loose some smoke your still getting all of the resin, where with glass your inhaling more smoke but not all of the resin. So it probably isn't as much of a waste as you think:gethigh:


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: ThePeruvianTorch]
    #7656346 - 11/19/07 07:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

the kids right, joints do burn the quickest. i find the snobby people on this site funny trying to tell other people what n how much they should b smoking or doing. alls im sayin is i love relaxin and puffin thats why you roll blunts theyre quite chill.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: ThePeruvianTorch]
    #7656391 - 11/19/07 07:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I don't mind a joint if I'm smoking with another person but the problem is most people do not know how to smoke a joint. For example my brother no matter how many times you tell him to take it easy on it, he will take the biggest loudest hits off it and hand you back a limp smashed piece of shit roach.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: PeterGriffin467]
    #7656444 - 11/19/07 07:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Joints are subtle.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: TurntableJunky]
    #7656450 - 11/19/07 07:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Joints are good for when you're driving. That way you don't have to drive with your knees or have someone hold the wheel.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Silversoul]
    #7656519 - 11/19/07 07:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I fuckin hate it when people lip a j and get it all soggy! Inexcusable behavior.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: circularvortex]
    #7656538 - 11/19/07 07:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yea and he'll sit there and watch me roll it up taking my time to make it perfect and then just ruin it.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Silversoul]
    #7656550 - 11/19/07 07:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Agreed^. I'll state that when dealing with a group of smokers, a joint can actually be more efficient than a bong as far too many people are wasteful when dealing with bongs. Over torching, not clearing the overfilled chamber, etc. But joints definitely have their place, especially for a reflective solo toke. Tightly packed with a fine dry bud composition, and efficiency is'nt too bad. Also, most of the smoke you see coming off the tip of a j is paper, not bud(really!). However, my favorite smoking implement will always be the short pipe.
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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: lavod]
    #7656574 - 11/19/07 08:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yea pipes are great. Nothing beats smoking good dank out of a CLEAN pipe.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: PeterGriffin467]
    #7656615 - 11/19/07 08:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i enjoy smoking in all its forms
but now i need to roll a spliff in honor of this thread


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: PeterGriffin467]
    #7656616 - 11/19/07 08:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'm a big fan of smokin bowls and what not, but every once and awhile a j is fucken amazing. While shroomin, joints are the best, i could sit there for hours and smoke joint after joint, personal favourite of mine.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: PeterGriffin467]
    #7656674 - 11/19/07 08:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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Yea pipes are great. Nothing beats smoking good dank out of a CLEAN pipe.




No way! Let those beasts gunk up! Makes the smoke so much smoother...


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: circularvortex]
    #7656810 - 11/19/07 09:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I only smoke joints unless i'm smoking someone else's bong or pipe.

I'm always on the run and a pipe is a real liability. If you have a joint in a cigarette pack, its easy to throw away and its easy to pull it out and light it.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: circularvortex]
    #7656825 - 11/19/07 09:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

circularvortex said:
Quote:

PeterGriffin467 said:
Yea pipes are great.  Nothing beats smoking good dank out of a CLEAN pipe.




No way!  Let those beasts gunk up!  Makes the smoke so much smoother...


  :puke:  I used to think that when i was like 15....


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Nephlyte]
    #7656828 - 11/19/07 09:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

hell yea bout to roll me up a nice zigzag


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Mastamike1118]
    #7656865 - 11/19/07 09:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

joints are quick and beautiful :thumbup::peace:


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Mastamike1118]
    #7656879 - 11/19/07 09:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Agreed, i love joints. They are my favorite way to smoke weed, while it might not be the most economically sound. A perfectly rolled joint or spliff is the most enjoyable way to smoke weed for me personally. Blunts aren't bad either, i love rolling up a nice blunt once in a while.

But joints hold a very special place in my heart.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: opensaysme]
    #7656887 - 11/19/07 09:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

didn't read through the whole thread but I only smoke joints when with 2-3 people
a joint to the dome gets me too high

because I love smoking via paper the perfect solution for me are spliffs
put the amount of weed I want to smoke in and then fill the rest with tobacco
that way I can smoke the whole thing, it gives me the most chill buzz, plus I dont have to suck on the thing for my life so I dont waste weed

spliffs FTW!


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: mikeytro]
    #7656903 - 11/19/07 09:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I like blunts.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: ThePeruvianTorch]
    #7657329 - 11/20/07 12:16 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

joints are my fav. spliff suck, because i feel like the tobacco takes away the high a bit. oh goodness... joints :smile:


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Zoo]
    #7657383 - 11/20/07 12:39 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I smoke joints because the high for me is alot different and much better. Bongs make me dopey and tired, joints make me really happy and content. Nothing better than a joint after work on a really good day whilst driving home.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: DepthToTheCore]
    #7657398 - 11/20/07 12:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

time and a place for all

joints are mainly for stealth smoking in public where im from


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: alphabeatu]
    #7657426 - 11/20/07 12:51 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i'd rather smoke a joint than a bluntwrap. my buddy likes to roll those things all the time and it ruins the taste of his killer buds, imo. rolling a joint, smoking your creation, and getting high from it is a fantastic ritual.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
    #7657505 - 11/20/07 01:33 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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i'd rather smoke a joint than a bluntwrap. my buddy likes to roll those things all the time and it ruins the taste of his killer buds, imo. rolling a joint, smoking your creation, and getting high from it is a fantastic ritual.



Fuck I hate the taste of blunts. A couple I know gets the best bud in town and waste the taste by rolling blunts. A joint in a group is just nice ambiance. But if it's less than three people smoking, you can't beat the power of a bong.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: circularvortex]
    #7674208 - 11/24/07 11:24 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I fuckin hate it when people lip a j and get it all soggy!  Inexcusable behavior.




I call that camel lipping.  Gross, indeed. :argh:


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: vitadura]
    #7674227 - 11/24/07 11:31 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I fuckin hate it when people lip a j and get it all soggy!  Inexcusable behavior.



I call that camel lipping.  Gross, indeed. :argh:




In cases like that, I would hold the joint myself under their face and they would have to breathe in as much smoke coming from the joint as they can, without letting their lips ever touch it. Then maybe, they will get the hint.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: TurntableJunky]
    #7676724 - 11/25/07 02:30 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I keep hearing people say joints are inneficent. I don't think they are much less efficient than pipes, if not more efficient. Just keep hittingthe joint, then you'll loose hardly any smoke. The temp of the cherry is lower than a lighter flame so it vaporizes more cannabanoids. In my experience with joints, they seem to be more stimulating than smoking with a pipe. Smoking out of a pipe seems to be more relaxed. I don't know why, but I'm pretty sure. I would smoke a j and then I would get paranoid and overstimulated, it was wierd.

I also think smoking a regular j is too much for one person that's why I've been rolling pinners.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7676747 - 11/25/07 02:39 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I fucking hate this lame ass bullshti about "joints are a waste"

if that's your fuckign attitude, then fucking give up drinking beer from a bottle, that's a fuckging waste. beer bong every single beer you will ever drink you fucking lame-o's

joints for the win, much more leisurely than a stinking ass faggoty fucking filthy bong


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: indica]
    #7676824 - 11/25/07 03:15 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think you need a joint.  :rastamon:


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: DepthToTheCore]
    #7677429 - 11/25/07 10:29 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If you think joints and blunts are a waste you can't even call yourself a pothead, you don't always carry a piece on you DUMB FUCKS. Bowls let off almost just as much smoke, AND a lot more resin sticks to the sides of the glass than your weak mind can even imagine.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7677490 - 11/25/07 10:46 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

joints arent a waste most people cant roll good ones so its only going around one time. Roll it right.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: AtPeace]
    #7677672 - 11/25/07 12:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

who cares if its waisted the shit grows on trees.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Legoulash]
    #7677687 - 11/25/07 12:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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who cares if its waisted the shit grows on trees.


So does paper money. Do you waste that as well?


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: DieCommie]
    #7677701 - 11/25/07 12:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yea, id rather spend cash on a french maid with a fat ass than rent and insurance.

who uses paper money anyway.. even dealers of mine take bank transfers.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Legoulash]
    #7677733 - 11/25/07 12:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

haha thats real smart, bank transfers with your dealer. ever hear of a paper trail?

cash is the way to go when buying drugs im sorry to break it to you. especially if its a large amount which you kinda allude to because i can't see a dealer taking a 20$ bank transfer for a gram or two lol.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: AtPeace]
    #7678083 - 11/25/07 02:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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joints arent a waste most people cant roll good ones so its only going around one time. Roll it right.




EXACTLY. Nobody can roll a tight joint, so it burns too fast and they cry.

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haha thats real smart, bank transfers with your dealer. ever hear of a paper trail?

cash is the way to go when buying drugs im sorry to break it to you. especially if its a large amount which you kinda allude to because i can't see a dealer taking a 20$ bank transfer for a gram or two lol.




Yeah, I'm sorry but if you're transferring money to your dealer's account you must have down syndrome. That's the most retarded shit I've read all day.

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who cares if its waisted the shit grows on trees.




Money paper doesn't grow on trees :rolleyes:


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7678111 - 11/25/07 02:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

My hus doesn't allow rolling of his stash at all.

He says pipe or bong only and we have no bong so it's the pipe. Homemade from wood cut on band-saw drilled on drill-press w/screen insert. Nice having a wood-worker in the family with stash..who shares :wink:

Could one feasibly roll a joint with small ammts of bud at intervals so it doesn't burn bud but only paper in between concert/party-attenders (or others who are skipping math back of the school building)? just being silly here. But seriously, is that possible?


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7678158 - 11/25/07 02:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Money paper doesn't grow on trees :rolleyes:




Come on people!
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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7678286 - 11/25/07 02:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: trendal]
    #7678354 - 11/25/07 02:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah. There's something about a nicely rolled joint that you just can't get from any other smoking utensil!




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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: GWAR]
    #7678360 - 11/25/07 02:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think it all depends on how good you can roll, people who suck at it get pissed and say "joints suck". But when you can roll your own perfect joint or blunt, it's just an amazing feeling and it actually doesn't turn out to be a waste.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: opensaysme]
    #7678383 - 11/25/07 02:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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haha thats real smart, bank transfers with your dealer. ever hear of a paper trail?

cash is the way to go when buying drugs im sorry to break it to you. especially if its a large amount which you kinda allude to because i can't see a dealer taking a 20$ bank transfer for a gram or two lol.




paper trail of what? were not international drug kingpins,were not watched.



But yes joints are wastefull... so is 600 dollars for an "efficiant" volcano. So is buying a hemi so is fine wine... Yet here we all are.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Tangerines]
    #7678387 - 11/25/07 02:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I like blunts.




nothin better than a blunt, vanilla dutch


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: boomer q]
    #7679150 - 11/25/07 05:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

So if this dealer of yours gets busted one day how the fuck is he gonna explain all these bank transfers from your account to his? I'm not trying to be an asshole or anything and yea i know your not "being watched" but using a bank transfer to pay for drugs is ridiculous.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: opensaysme]
    #7679233 - 11/25/07 06:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

aw man didnt think id have to head outside again tonight, but seems like now i have to. i also just go for pinners, i just couldn't finish a joint to myself.

i prefer the buzz of smoking joints to any other means though. Even if i wouldn't i probably would still roll joints, just because i always seem to have a barely working lighter, so just a quick light and drag, and you'Re on your way with a joint. anything else and i'd be getting frustrated since i'd be wasting so much, barely getting i lit but slowly charring it down anyway.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: SapphireCat]
    #7679241 - 11/25/07 06:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i like game greens for blunts


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: SapphireCat]
    #7679260 - 11/25/07 06:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah it's definitely a different high, I have thought about this a lot and here's my theory. When you smoke a bowl the smoke makes contact with the glass, and resin sticks to it.. and usually you never smoke those wonderful cannaboids (unless you clean it with alcohol and then evaporate it). When you smoke a blunt or joint, the smoke only makes contact with the rest of the weed and sticks to it, this is why the roach gets soggy when it's almost gone. Well when you smoke this you get a much different high. And that's why the second half of a blunt or joint will gay you way higher than the first half (espsecially if you let it dry). My bowl lets off just as smoke as one of my joints too, so I don't see how you people think they're a waste, unless you can't roll. Blunts also burn much slower than joints, I'm not too into joints.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7682084 - 11/26/07 02:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Could one feasibly roll a joint with small ammts of bud at intervals so it doesn't burn bud but only paper in between concert/party-attenders (or others who are skipping math back of the school building)? just being silly here. But seriously, is that possible?




Quoting myself here...can someone cover this question if you please...? :thanx:


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7682116 - 11/26/07 02:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Not sure what you're asking with that..


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Shroomism]
    #7682141 - 11/26/07 02:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

spliffs are what smoking weed is all about, slowly chilling out, with bongs you dont get the relaxing gradual sinking into the stoned frame of mind, just doesnt cut it for me, i love joints:)


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7682182 - 11/26/07 03:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Could one feasibly roll a joint with small ammts of bud at intervals so it doesn't burn bud but only paper in between concert/party-attenders (or others who are skipping math back of the school building)? just being silly here. But seriously, is that possible?






Quoting myself here...can someone cover this question if you please...? :thanx:




That's a really strange question.  if what you're asking is whether you can roll a joint so it burns weed and then burns nothing but paper and then burns weed, no you can't. That would be one terrible joint. The joint would probably run big time, and the weed would be loose and moving around.. It would probably not even fully burn the weed.I would imagine the weed would probably be mostly unburned and fall out after  a big run  burns past it.

What is your intended purpose?  It sounds like you want to smoke only little portions of the joint at intervals. If you really want, you can just put out the joint after you take a few hits. Get one of those plastic single cigarette containers (they sell them at 7-11) (edit: I can't support buying/smoking  cigarettes, but you could probably find one in front of the store in the ashtray or just buy something thatlooks like it) and put it in there. Or you can just roll pinners, once you practice rolling them you can roll them all the time. I highly suggest everyone who smokes weed get a weed grinder or even a pollinator if you want to save kief. You don't HAVE to have it if you smoke out of a pipe, but it's still helpful. And you should definitely get one for rolling joints. There's so much sticky dense indica these days you should really have one.

The last idea I have is not really a good one but you could put some other herb in between the portions of weed but this is not good because it's just more damage to your lungs and you'll have to put the joint out anyways. Although it's not a terrible idea to put some herb like mint in the roach end , that way you don't have to worry about smoking the roach and the mint collects the tar and nasties. That's one of the best reasons to smoke joints, it makes it more healthy.

Use good rolling papers helps make good joints. I suggest hemp papers.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7682428 - 11/26/07 04:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yeah that's crazy talk


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7682495 - 11/26/07 04:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

How much weed do all of you throw down for a joint?


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    #7682667 - 11/26/07 04:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'd say a good joint is about a half gram, but blunts are better. I usually roll .7 or .8 into a rillo.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7683130 - 11/26/07 07:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

depends on the amount of people smoking it and how high we want to get. i like to roll a spliff with around a gram for three people when we wanna have a nice smoke sesh. i use king size zig zags for those. but if i just wanna burn one to the dome i usually put like .3-.4 mixed with some tobacky.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7683718 - 11/26/07 10:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Re: Quoting myself here...can someone cover this question if you please...? :thanx: :

That's a really strange question.  if what you're asking is whether you can roll a joint so it burns weed and then burns nothing but paper and then burns weed, no you can't. That would be one terrible joint. The joint would probably run big time, and the weed would be loose and moving around.. It would probably not even fully burn the weed.I would imagine the weed would probably be mostly unburned and fall out after  a big run  burns past it.

What is your intended purpose?  It sounds like you want to smoke only little portions of the joint at intervals. If you really want, you can just put out the joint after you take a few hits. Get one of those plastic single cigarette containers (they sell them at 7-11) (edit: I can't support buying/smoking  cigarettes, but you could probably find one in front of the store in the ashtray or just buy something thatlooks like it) and put it in there. Or you can just roll pinners, once you practice rolling them you can roll them all the time. I highly suggest everyone who smokes weed get a weed grinder or even a pollinator if you want to save kief. You don't HAVE to have it if you smoke out of a pipe, but it's still helpful. And you should definitely get one for rolling joints. There's so much sticky dense indica these days you should really have one.

The last idea I have is not really a good one but you could put some other herb in between the portions of weed but this is not good because it's just more damage to your lungs and you'll have to put the joint out anyways. Although it's not a terrible idea to put some herb like mint in the roach end , that way you don't have to worry about smoking the roach and the mint collects the tar and nasties. That's one of the best reasons to smoke joints, it makes it more healthy.

Use good rolling papers helps make good joints. I suggest hemp papers.

Thank you SO much for taking all that time and thought to answer so thoroughly. :thumbup:

It was a real edu.com! lol I have a degree now B.S.-T.H.C. :laugh:

But seriously, I can see smoking some dried mint in the bowl of our pipe after the weed, just pull it into my mouth, not down into the lungs and see if it eliminates ashy-tray breath w/o brushing teeth though, I must say, my gums are good and healthy for all the extra bushings I've brushed b/c of weed being the self-medication of choice to cure the common mid-life crisis around here. (Run-on sentence...ouch!)  :wink:

I asked the orig. query to see if one could save on weed in between intakes when alone and not passing it from hand to hand. I know I could twist the paper between drops of bus to hold it in place if it's a flexible "woven" rolling paper. Thanx again! MIC tips her hat.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: aDoS]
    #7683729 - 11/26/07 10:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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if you have a good amount of weed it really doesn't matter that they are a waste.




yeah, what are you gonna shove your weed up your ass cuz any other way is a waste?! Smoke that shit, nukka!


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: ThePeruvianTorch]
    #7683782 - 11/26/07 10:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Totally agree, I prefer a nice small pipe myself... Made of glass with a glass jack screen.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: TurntableJunky]
    #7683869 - 11/26/07 10:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Joints are great. Any efficiency issues are minimal in my experience. And it's not always about efficiency. There's something fun about passing a joint. It's an enjoyable experience. If you're smoking alone a piece is fine. I find a tightly rolled joint, in slow burn paper like Zig Zags or those clear cellulose ones work best. And it's perfect for two people, providing you have good bud.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7683937 - 11/26/07 11:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Rolling it is half the fun, especially if you're good at it


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7683953 - 11/26/07 11:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

J's are great cuz when you run out you still got the roaches.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Cheezit]
    #7686454 - 11/27/07 03:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I swallow roaches...the paper kind...the other type gets a shoe over the head. :wink:


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7687153 - 11/27/07 05:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I swallow roaches...the paper kind.




You eat them? ew


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Tangerines]
    #7687205 - 11/27/07 05:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

That's not only disgusting, but also pointless.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7687485 - 11/27/07 06:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

you gotta swallow them while they're still lit, thats how you get fucked up for real


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: opensaysme]
    #7687819 - 11/27/07 07:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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you gotta swallow them while they're still lit, thats how you get fucked up for real




rotfl! :laugh:


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Tangerines]
    #7687857 - 11/27/07 07:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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MyInnerChild said:
I swallow roaches...the paper kind.




You eat them? ew




I only use a pipe now...no rolling paper in my house at all...thought tampon paper (not plastic type needless to say) works I found out when in desperate need one time. :wink:

In the days when I smoked joints...sometimes you had to do like it says in Pre-Road Downs by CSNY...."Be sure to hide the roaches".

What better way when my parents might find 'em cuz I was too stoned to stash 'em properly. I didn't want to wait till the cleaning lady would alert my Mum.

I was a Middle class stoner...who spent her monthly bus ticket allowance $$$ from Dad on weed then asked Mum for it when Dad was at work and Mum was still too sleepy/unsuspecting to question me.


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Edited by MyInnerChild (11/27/07 07:46 PM)


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7687968 - 11/27/07 08:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Joints are good for three people MAX and the joint has to be rolled to perfection and the mj a good consistency/moistness....A fat ass blunt of  NL however is more forgiving and 2.3 grams of bud will get 6 people stoned as hell :rastamon:


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Hotsauce72]
    #7687995 - 11/27/07 08:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

just wondering, why did you choose 2.3 grams and say not 2.4?
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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: mikeytro]
    #7688074 - 11/27/07 08:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Well if you get the right papers and aren't a moron you can get six people real high off a joint just as you can a blunt.

I roll excellent joints i have to say, and on 4/20 i was the designated joint/blunt roller for the biggest dealer at my college as he knows my skill and we're great friends. Most of the pieces i rolled that day were made to get around six people high, and they certainly did the trick for all the visitors coming into my friends room.

I do have a problem rolling stupidly large blunts (3g plus) so i let my friend do the eighth blunt we burned directly at 4:20 with a hookah packed with a shitload of weed in with the shisha. Ahh great 4/20 last year.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: opensaysme]
    #7688091 - 11/27/07 08:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I just can't understand how someone couldn't roll a huge blunt it just seems so forgiving. Joints on the other hand are do or die if you don't have the technique down.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: opensaysme]
    #7688108 - 11/27/07 08:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

420 parties FTW
one of my friends have people come and go all day
while I was there there were probably 2 bongs going around, a blunt and a few pieces
we all go out to smoke a cigarette (probably 10 people or so) and some random chick just passes out and falls on me :lol:
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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: opensaysme]
    #7688109 - 11/27/07 08:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

fat blunts suck. Skinny blunts are where its at


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: Tangerines]
    #7688152 - 11/27/07 08:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I completely agree, i prefer a long skinny blunt to a fat one any day.

The fat ones are such a waste cus they burn so much weed at once. I prefer to take an average hit and hold it in forever rather than a massive hit that i cough out a few seconds later.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: opensaysme]
    #7688156 - 11/27/07 08:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

my personal view (not that there arent enough already) is that all forms of smoking deserve their own place. i smoke mostly blunts because they burn slowest and well because i have to smoke a lot and blunts are easily fattened up. theyre a lot more forgiving to roll than joints and a bit hardier too.

a pack of skins in your wallet is an absolute must though. never hurts to always be able to smoke wherever you go. joints would have to be my least favorite of the main three though as its the hardest way to get high for me.

bowls/bongs are definitely more efficient when it comes down to it for me. when it comes to getting the most out of what youve got a bowl will make you much happier. a gravity bong would probably be the best example of this as im sure (or at least hope) most of you already know. however sometimes i dont have the patience or am just plain too lazy to sit there with a bowl in hand and light it over and over and over again bowl after bowl after bowl.

you shouldnt just limit yourself exclusively to your favorite though. i find that after a while smoking in the same form it gets pretty old and when you switch up to something else you start getting a lot higher.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: ThePeruvianTorch]
    #7688204 - 11/27/07 09:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I enjoy smoking joints so I do, no one is being clever telling anyone else how to smoke they are just treating their opinion as more important than that of their audience. I get a bit put off coming on these forums when I see some peoples attitude to really petty things like smoking methods


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: bobty]
    #7688505 - 11/27/07 10:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i didnt really see much of an argument being passed around

nothing petty about discussing personal opinions on the finer points of smoking.


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Re: Joints are a waste. [Re: mikeytro]
    #7695524 - 11/29/07 04:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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420 parties FTW
one of my friends have people come and go all day
while I was there there were probably 2 bongs going around, a blunt and a few pieces
we all go out to smoke a cigarette (probably 10 people or so) and some random chick just passes out and falls on me :lol:
lightweightzzz




???
I am to understand that she passed out from weed? Maybe she thought you were SO cute that she got light-headed. :wink:


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