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TERRARIUM: air exchange vs. heat keeping
    #7653366 - 11/19/07 01:57 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I am about to fruit my myceliums in a large plastic container.

I heard some people say to only drill a few holes on the bottom of the box sides about 3 inches high. Some others say one should make as many as he can holes in it.

The temperatures around here are getting lower and lower, and will be ranging from 50 to about 65. I am thinking about heating the terrarium using the heatbomb tek to heat it.

Problem is I read this heat will come out from the tiniest cracks in the terrarium.

Say I have the luxuries of ventilating 3 times a day, should I drill at all? drill only few holes in the bottom? drill many?


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Re: TERRARIUM: air exchange vs. heat keeping [Re: Schilderij]
    #7653375 - 11/19/07 02:03 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You cant heat the room? Not even with a portable space heater?


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Re: TERRARIUM: air exchange vs. heat keeping [Re: Mojo]
    #7653378 - 11/19/07 02:07 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Heating a terrarium from the inside is a bad idea. It leads to condensation on the inside of your FC because the outside temps are lower, and standing water is a magnet for all kinds of contaminations.

Your best bet is to invest in a small space heater that you can run directly at your FC without affecting humidity too much and without driving the temperature too high inside it.


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Re: TERRARIUM: air exchange vs. heat keeping [Re: Mojo]
    #7653405 - 11/19/07 02:28 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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You cant heat the room? Not even with a portable space heater?




no... it's a real bad insulated house. as a poor student I cannot afford to heat the street.

It will be hotter though when I'm here and not at uni.


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Re: TERRARIUM: air exchange vs. heat keeping [Re: Schilderij]
    #7653425 - 11/19/07 02:52 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Hey man Happy Birthday!

Do you have a closet you could throw it in along with a little $14 space heater from wall Mart?

I know im dodging your original questions, but it’s because what you’re describing would be an absolute last resort for me.


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Re: TERRARIUM: air exchange vs. heat keeping [Re: Mojo]
    #7653428 - 11/19/07 02:56 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

thanks man.

Putting it in the closet won't let any light it, and we don't want that, right?

A space heater is a heated fan or a radiator?

Anyways I'm a bit worried about heating the closet, especially when I'm not around, it doesn't sound like the safest thing to do.


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Why do people always stop and ask me
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It followed me home

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Re: TERRARIUM: air exchange vs. heat keeping [Re: Schilderij]
    #7653438 - 11/19/07 03:08 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If you can put your heater up on the shelf, point it to the furthest wall, and set her at 75-ish than I think you’d be fine and safe.

I recommend getting a decent heater; AFOAF has a GE model with a digi thermostat that can keep a closet accurate to the nearest degree. It’s the most consistent and hassle free method of heating AFOAF has ever done.

I’ve heard of people buying cheaper heaters and still having great results.

I’m pretty sure the one AFOAF has is a “ceramic” heater, its just a little cute mini desk top heater.

Since your routing power in the closet any way, you can throw a light in there while you’re at it.

I’ll let some others chime in on the safety issue. I’m not really sure what the general consensus is on it. But I have seen a lot of people do it, and feel perfectly safe doing it.


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Re: TERRARIUM: air exchange vs. heat keeping [Re: Schilderij]
    #7653444 - 11/19/07 03:14 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Anyways I'm a bit worried about heating the closet, especially when I'm not around, it doesn't sound like the safest thing to do.





i have had a small electric radiater type heater on in my closet for 3 months continuos but thats for incubation my room stays at the moment around 70f which is fruiting fine but i also have a blow type heater which im not so keen to leave on as its old but an hour with that on in my room of an evening keeps the room warm enough for the night stops it dropping below 70f
if your room is not much under 70f then i would leave em to fruit in that temp fae is the key more than the temprature so drill a few holes not too many along the top of the fc or i just have a few in the lid and all the others are taped up i also have a bubble stone in a pot of water for 10% more humidity and fae and as a added bonus when the pump from the bubble stone heats up it pushes warm air to rais it 2f which aint much but every little helps :thumbup:


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Re: TERRARIUM: air exchange vs. heat keeping [Re: grandesign]
    #7653454 - 11/19/07 03:20 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

what are your temperatures without heating?


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Re: TERRARIUM: air exchange vs. heat keeping [Re: Nibin]
    #7653490 - 11/19/07 03:54 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

my temps without heating stays around 70f which fruits fine i just sometimes if the room feels cold turns my second heater on to warm it up a bit the heat stays in the room for some time !


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Re: TERRARIUM: air exchange vs. heat keeping [Re: grandesign]
    #7653496 - 11/19/07 03:57 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Gah, hit reply to the wrong post. Sorry, I meant the Original Poster, lol


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Re: TERRARIUM: air exchange vs. heat keeping [Re: Nibin]
    #7653505 - 11/19/07 04:16 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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what are your temperatures without heating?




my temps are ranging from 50 to 68 i'd say... daytime is ok I guess.
I'm afraid about nighttime.

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i have had a small electric radiater type heater on in my closet for 3 months continuos but thats for incubation my room stays at the moment around 70f which is fruiting fine but i also have a blow type heater which im not so keen to leave on as its old but an hour with that on in my room of an evening keeps the room warm enough for the night stops it dropping below 70f
if your room is not much under 70f then i would leave em to fruit in that temp fae is the key more than the temprature so drill a few holes not too many along the top of the fc or i just have a few in the lid and all the others are taped up i also have a bubble stone in a pot of water for 10% more humidity and fae and as a added bonus when the pump from the bubble stone heats up it pushes warm air to rais it 2f which aint much but every little helps :thumbup:





Thanks for the advice.

I think I'll lay off the closet thing. It's a small closet. Not so usable for this whole setup.

I will drill some holes on the bottom, and some on the top, and hope the air exchange will do the job.

I intent to dunk and roll and spray, double end case and use a thick layer of perlite in my FC.

The Bubble Stone sounds interesting, what's that?


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When I´m riding my little red tricycle
Why do people always stop and ask me
"Why must you ride on that little red tricycle?
Act your age, you know you´re forty-three."


I didn´t really steal the tricycle from my grandmother
It followed me home

hahahahaaaaaaaaa


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Re: TERRARIUM: air exchange vs. heat keeping [Re: Schilderij]
    #7653690 - 11/19/07 07:17 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

im sure you will be fine its just tweaking it untill you get it perfect
a bubble stone is basically a fishtank pump with just the stone on the end of a hose you can submerse this in a beaker or glass filled with water and let it bubble away i leave mine on all day and turn off at night it gives me the fae and also raises humidity a little and stops my substrate from dryin out :thumbup:
Good luck Growing, GD


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Re: TERRARIUM: air exchange vs. heat keeping [Re: grandesign]
    #7653845 - 11/19/07 08:34 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yeah thats what im about to do, guess what though, i bought 2 air curtains from ebay, then when they came found out that they came with no air pump, so need to buy a damn air pipe.


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Re: TERRARIUM: air exchange vs. heat keeping [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7653871 - 11/19/07 08:44 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

what is a air curtain ? never heard of one of them !


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Re: TERRARIUM: air exchange vs. heat keeping [Re: grandesign]
    #7653898 - 11/19/07 08:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The air curtain is this



Its basicaly a flexible pipe with lots of holes in it with foam around it.


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Re: TERRARIUM: air exchange vs. heat keeping [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7653902 - 11/19/07 08:55 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

cool, so your not gonna use it in water just to put air into the fc
say under the perlite?


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Re: TERRARIUM: air exchange vs. heat keeping [Re: grandesign]
    #7653909 - 11/19/07 08:57 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think im gonna switch to using hydroton instead of perlite, with the hydroton i thin u use about 5 inches of it with 2 inches of water, ill sit the curtains in water :smile:.

Im sure i can get better results if i have more regular FAE


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Re: TERRARIUM: air exchange vs. heat keeping [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7653924 - 11/19/07 09:01 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

ok too much fae can hinder you as well though depends on the size of your fc ive got two 9 cake fc's which are small compared to what most use


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Re: TERRARIUM: air exchange vs. heat keeping [Re: grandesign]
    #7653932 - 11/19/07 09:03 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah mines pretty small too, 30 litre container, houses 6 cakes.

I have to leave my FC for about 10 hours on its own without any FAE. So the air curtain should make a big difference/>


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