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Offlinegreystealth
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Stage 1 on the first growth
    #7648681 - 11/17/07 07:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Hey everyone, yet another noob on his first growth.

Here are the items I was able to obtain:
10 QT. Stainless Steel Pressure Cooker
Ecuador Syringe
Cambodian Syringe
Distilled Water
Disinfectant spray
Anti-bacterial soap
3 pounds of organic brown rice
1 pound of organic flax seed(for added nutrition)
24, 1/2 pint mason canning jars

Is this everything I need for stage one? How full should I fill the 1/2 pint jars with brown rice, and how much flax seed should I put? Also....how long do I PC for?


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OfflineTripleTree3
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Re: Stage 1 on the first growth [Re: greystealth]
    #7648694 - 11/17/07 07:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Offlinegreystealth
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Re: Stage 1 on the first growth [Re: TripleTree3]
    #7648716 - 11/17/07 07:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If I can't get vermiculite, can I just spray water onto the sterilized cans of brown rice?


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Invisiblethedefone
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Re: Stage 1 on the first growth [Re: greystealth]
    #7648726 - 11/17/07 07:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You want brown rice FLOUR for the PFtek, and it seems that you read somewhere to get flax and use that somehow, so I suggest that you go back to that source and do what it is they are telling you to do. I don't know about flax... I'm on vtunnel, otherwise I'd whip up a link that sent you to the Basic Cultivation Guides under the Grow Mushrooms section of the site, which is where all of the PFTeks are listed. There's a new FAQ there too it seems.

Oh yeah. You need Vermiculite.

You have a PC, learn about Rye. It's easier.


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Invisiblethedefone
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Re: Stage 1 on the first growth [Re: thedefone]
    #7648765 - 11/17/07 07:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

No.

You need Vermiculite for PFtek.

You know where I found it? It was at Home depot in the artificial fireplace section where they use it for fake embers/ashes. It's out there, you just have to find it.


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Re: Stage 1 on the first growth [Re: thedefone]
    #7648771 - 11/17/07 07:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I just bought all this organic brown rice, a little disorganized of me I agree-but don't want it to go to waste.

This sucks...so I can't start PC'ing tonight without that damned vermiculite, hunh? Also don't have brown rice flour. Does it have to be organic?


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Invisiblethedefone
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Re: Stage 1 on the first growth [Re: greystealth]
    #7648813 - 11/17/07 08:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Did you find the teks? You can use a coffee grinder to grind it all up, and as far as it being orgainic.... you'd probably be fine, the non-organic stuff may have some fungicides or other equally "spore-icidal" stuff on it preventing it from working for you.

And sorrrrrry, but no. you need verm not only to mix into your BRF to make it more airy and suitable for the mycelium to colonize, but you need some to put on the top of your substrate material in the jars to help prevent contamination. That's a fundamental part of PF Tek.

You know, you can eat that rice, too. Do your PF tek, and learn about what you're actually doing but also, while youre waiting that interminable month for your jars to finish colonizing, read up on 50/50 casings, Grain Spawn, like Wild Bird Seed (WBS) or Rye, and Bulk spawning, because I told you to... and because they're more fun.


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Re: Stage 1 on the first growth [Re: greystealth]
    #7648854 - 11/17/07 08:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

thanks for the home depot, do i absolutely need brown rice flour in combo with the organic brown rice?

Also, does it have to be organic?


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Re: Stage 1 on the first growth [Re: greystealth]
    #7648882 - 11/17/07 08:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

ive always used brown rice and just used a blender to turn it into flour.. so you don't have to let that go to waste. Just make sure when you blend it that you make sure it is a very fine powder (like flour) otherwise the small chunks may expand when PC'd. Other than that.. get verm and you should be good to go.


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Invisiblethedefone
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Re: Stage 1 on the first growth [Re: greystealth]
    #7648884 - 11/17/07 08:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You don't actually use Brown rice for anything at all, whatsoever. Except to make Brown rice FLOUR.

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the non-organic stuff may have some fungicides or other equally "spore-icidal" stuff on it preventing it from working for you.




What you have already is organic, grind it into flour and use it. But the one thing that you can do to help yourself more than anything is READ THE TEK! Go up to the top of the page and type "pf tek" in the search bar (under either forums, or site, mind you) and rejoice in the miracle of the search engine. Seriously. That is the one thing.

p.s. I think it was actually Lowe's


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Re: Stage 1 on the first growth [Re: Her0]
    #7648888 - 11/17/07 08:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

cool, about to go over to home depot and get the verm. *crosses fingers*

Unfortunately I do not have a blender, but organic brown rice flour is so hard to find.......Can I not use anything else?


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Re: Stage 1 on the first growth [Re: greystealth]
    #7648894 - 11/17/07 08:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

borrow a friends blender? or coffee grinder? otherwise your gonna have to buy it at a store unless you plan on using another tek like WBS etc


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Re: Stage 1 on the first growth [Re: Her0]
    #7648898 - 11/17/07 08:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

gotcha, I'll go look for a blender. =P Thanks for your help. So I take it you've had success grinding the organic brown rice flour? Good yields?


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Re: Stage 1 on the first growth [Re: greystealth]
    #7648918 - 11/17/07 08:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Do you drink coffee? Go buy a coffee grinder, and some fresh beans and drink some good coffee while you grind your flour.

Ground hulled millet supposedly works well, too. The Albertson's in my town has a organic aisle in it. That's where I got my BRF. They had tons of organic crap there.

Again, I typed BRF substitute in the search engine..............


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Re: Stage 1 on the first growth [Re: thedefone]
    #7648996 - 11/17/07 08:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

this is the cake i have goin right now spawned from brown rice that i blended (BRF) and verm.. just followed pf tek. Blending it wont make any difference imo... in the end its the same stuff

[image]http://www.shroomery.org/forums/files/07-46/533715924-pins.jpg]


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Re: Stage 1 on the first growth [Re: Her0]
    #7649318 - 11/17/07 10:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

nice pic!

Well, I just wanted to give special thanks to Hero and thedefone for giving me such quick advice! I went to Home Depot, and they were out of verm. Fortunately, there was an OSH right across the street that was well stocked on verm.

Also, went to Whole Foods and got Organic Brown Rice flour-so looks like I am all good to go! Going to start the proj. tonight after I finish my business law quiz online.

Also, wtf does tek stand for? Does it just mean 'guide'?


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Re: Stage 1 on the first growth [Re: greystealth]
    #7649410 - 11/17/07 10:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Technical Documentation For the Furtherance of Psychedelic Substance Cultivation........So most of us just shorten to tek.


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Re: Stage 1 on the first growth [Re: BlargIAmDead]
    #7649589 - 11/17/07 11:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I have been told on the board that the fireplace verm. is not suitable for BRF cakes, and that you need the horticulture type.


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Re: Stage 1 on the first growth [Re: ShRm22]
    #7649594 - 11/17/07 11:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

hopefully I got the right kind.


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Re: Stage 1 on the first growth [Re: greystealth]
    #7650051 - 11/18/07 05:04 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yup try and get medium fine grade verm.


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Re: Stage 1 on the first growth [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7650259 - 11/18/07 08:31 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Fireplace verm works fine.


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