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Re: happy thanksgiving? [Re: Shroomism]
    #7653799 - 11/19/07 08:06 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Let's not forget the true meaning of thanksgiving: The slaughter and genocide of the Native Americans.


Why is that the true meaning of thanksgiving? Of course that was the most unjust, evil and oppressive thing that this nation has ever done. But what does that have to do with thanksgiving? Is it because the pilgrims ate with natives that somehow the meaning of thanksgiving is genocide? I have to say, that doesnt make sense at all...


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Re: happy thanksgiving? [Re: Shroomism]
    #7654052 - 11/19/07 09:54 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Let's not forget the true meaning of thanksgiving: The slaughter and genocide of the Native Americans.



I tend to associate that more with Columbus Day.


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Re: happy thanksgiving? [Re: WordlessNature]
    #7654105 - 11/19/07 10:14 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Isn't it interesting how this works... So many hate-laden words of separation, yet not a single taste of peace. Middleman, I respect your posts greatly for the incredible wealth of information you continue to present here. Jonathan, I am also very appreciative of the information you put forward in support of your truth. My truth is neither of yours, nor will any amount of data provided ever change that. Yet I still find enrichment in the ideas you present, whether I personally deem them wise or spurious. The opportunity to analyze a dissenting opinion is a golden one that leads to greater wisdom. Do not become so verbally combative that you lalala upon your own house of cards. To do so is certainly without merit... Personally, I believe that your views espouse separation, Jonathan; if you believe in God, I would expect your posts to foster understanding, compassion, and reconciliation. As it stands, they seem to breed dissent, chaos, and mindless bickering. What Christian purpose is there in bringing sinister tones to a simple, family-oriented and largely secular holiday? Think of your Mission before you speak, Christian. Otherwise your very presence shall further slander your religion.




You say "peace, peace", but there is no peace. I do support seperation, seperation from the filth of this world. I also work to
encourage understanding,compassion, and reconciliation, all which can be found in Christ.

if it was a harmless holiday, then I might not be sharing this . Like I said, there's nothing wrong with giving thanks to God for the harvest, and the hebrews had such a celebration also.

It's about a system that is working to deceive you all. It's about an adoltarous church that is working to destroy you. This is not a joke. Please wake up.You don't walk into a battle saying "peace, peace you seperatists".

Do you hate war? This power is a greedy warmonger.
Do you hate corruption? This is the power that corrupts the whole earth.
Do you despise the policies of bush? This is the power behind bush, the nwo, and in fact is the real power that formed the american government.
Do you hate oppression? This power crushes the earth and all it's living things.

This is serious, and this is real, this is evident for anyone to see.

Learn symbolism and you will see it everywhere.

Learn history, the history they don't want you to know.


Edited by jonathan_206 (11/19/07 11:30 AM)


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Re: happy thanksgiving? [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7655046 - 11/19/07 02:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

History? You clearly were not there when the Three Islands fell. I'm guessing you think that what you call the Tower of Babel wasn't a good thing? And I suppose that you still blame long dead leaders, some turned into gods by time, for what is happening today? In doing so you pick on dead men, some of them corrupt, some friends. The trident was not perfect, but we are not responsible for any world dominating master plan... As above, so below...


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Re: happy thanksgiving? [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7655882 - 11/19/07 05:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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jonathan_206 said:
I do support seperation, seperation from the filth of this world.




Spoken like a true Xtian.

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This is not a joke.




Yes, it is.

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Please wake up.




Ok, I will.


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Re: happy thanksgiving? [Re: WordlessNature]
    #7660590 - 11/20/07 08:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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History? You clearly were not there when the Three Islands fell. I'm guessing you think that what you call the Tower of Babel wasn't a good thing? And I suppose that you still blame long dead leaders, some turned into gods by time, for what is happening today? In doing so you pick on dead men, some of them corrupt, some friends. The trident was not perfect, but we are not responsible for any world dominating master plan... As above, so below...




You're referring to Atlantis right? Atlantis as it's depicted in mythology is a total myth..but first let me state I do not see how it is relevent to what I was talking about at all. But you mentioned it so I think I'll go over it.

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It is remarkable that there is a syllable with the consonant value "M*R" which is found everywhere in connection with the planet Mars, the god of Mars, and its associated emblem, the dragon. The source of all these words is to be found in the Semitic roof "marah" (M*R) which in Hebrew means bitterness as well as disobedience. From this roof is derived "marad" (M*R*D), or rebellion, which is the original both of Nimrod (the Babylonian Nin-Mir-Rud), or (N*M*R*D), as well as Marduk/Merodach (M*R*D*K). The Bible tells us that Nimrod was the founder of Ninevah, and Nineveh's own half-legendary history ascribes that honor to one Ninur or Nimur (N*M*R).

Marduk was the original in both name and character of the gods Mercury (M*R*K*R) and Mars (M*R*TS) from which of course we derive the current names of these planets. It is notable that Mercury, like Mars, is also "battle-scarred".

Under the name Apsu (P*S), Marduk became Poseidon (P*S*D*N) who founded Atlantis which was named after his son Atlas (T*L*S), the Babylonian Astalluhi (S*T*L*). Atlantis was overthrown in the throes of a great war bringing destruction and dissolution upon the land. The only remnant of Atlantis was the island Hesperus (S*P*R) upon which lived a dragon in possession of the fruit of the tree of life (immortality). This fruit was stolen by the god Hercules/Melkarth (M*L*K*R*T), a pseudonym of Marduk (M*R*D*K). The people of Atlantis, called Merodes (M*R*D) were descendants of Merou (M*R) or Merod (M*R*D).




This account of Atlantis is just mythology, it's very likely based partially upon history with mythology intertwined.


No the tower of babel, or the ziggurat there was not a good thing, I don't know what you make of it.

But I really want to address this statement:

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And I suppose that you still blame long dead leaders, some turned into gods by time, for what is happening today?




Nimrod and semiramis were not turned into gods over time, that is deified long over time.. Nimrod and Semiramis deified themselves while they were still alive.

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After establishing his kingdom in the Tigris/Euphrates region Nimrod consolidated his power by establishing a state religion. He constructed a religion that included deification and worship of the emperor (himself), worship of Satan and his demons, and star-worship (corrupted from a pure antediluvian astronomy). A key unifying factor in his religion was to be an astronomical/astrological observatory built upon the pinnacle of a pyramid, or tower, at Babel. It has been suggested that Nimrod spent some time in Egypt before moving up to Mesopotamia and that while in Egypt he studied the Egyptian mystery religion perpetuated there from before the flood by the wife of Ham, whom tradition takes to be a descendant of Cain.

The building of this pyramid (or ziggurat) was interrupted by God himself in order to prevent Nimrod from extending his sway over all of the inhabited earth, according to Genesis. God halted the work by confusing their language so they could no longer cooperate easily with one another, nor indeed easily inhabit the same region together. As a consequence the human race was dispersed, and as men scattered they carried with them remnants of primeval revelation from God, and Satan/hero worship which Nimrod had invented as well. This system of muddled half-truths is known today to Bible scholars as the "Babylonian Mystery Religion." From a biblical point of view this religious system is described as the well-spring for all subsequent false religion and endless mythological systems, (For example see Isaiah 47 and revelation Chapters 17 and 18).

After their deaths, Nimrod and his wife Semiramis (the ancient "queen of heaven") were confirmed by their priests as gods and given homage as Marduk and Astarte. The name Marduk was not revealed to the masses but his attributes were set forth under pseudonyms of various gods constructed for the public interest.




I don't honestly know what you're talking about "the trident", but as to your statement of not being responsible, we are all responsible for our actions. We are responsible if we support an evil system. We are responsible if we give allegiance to that evil system. We are also responsible for ourselves to not be decieved. That is yours and mine responsibilities.

It's not that there is some oppresive system out there that you can just live your daily lives in ignorance of it's workings and whereabouts and still be fine.

This system could not hold so much power except it were given power and support by the common people. If you recognized this power, you would hate it (probably) but yet the whole world supports this power.

The jesuits established their power in Europe, and when they were finally exposed (willingly, but that's another story) and put out of (open) practice in Europe, a lawyer that had inspected constitutions, the jesuit manual, he said that was a handbook of "every known form of heresy,idolatry,and superstition [which] provides tutelage in suicide, legicide, blasphemy, and every kind of impurity, usury,sorcery, murder, cruelty, hatred, vendetta, insurrection, and treason"

And yet they had had total control of Europe for many many years. And they couldn't had flourished so greatly had not the general populace supported them.

But now they are back and thriving in Europe, and especially so in America. Consider then your responsibility concerning these deceivers, and remember that ignorance is no excuse.


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Re: happy thanksgiving? [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7661086 - 11/20/07 11:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think your post reveals exactly what it was expected to.


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Re: happy thanksgiving? [Re: WordlessNature]
    #7661146 - 11/20/07 11:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

which is?


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Re: happy thanksgiving? [Re: Veritas]
    #7666717 - 11/22/07 11:50 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Happy Thanksgiving Veritas to you, Ice and the family!

And a Grateful Thanksgiving to all in the Name of the Great Spirit no matter what Names you use. God is ONE.


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Re: happy thanksgiving? [Re: WordlessNature]
    #7684952 - 11/27/07 08:32 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Because my family is made up of so many different beliefs...from Christian's to Buddhists, we decided to make Thanksgiving a day that we all get together and eat.Period.
Before dinner we bow our heads in silence and say our prayers in silence.
During dinner we take turns talking about all of the things we are Thankful for.
No more religious or political arguments to ruin the day.

PEACE,
Zendragon


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