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OfflineVisionsToReality
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Uh oh..pinning initiated before casing..
    #7646988 - 11/17/07 08:32 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Well, looks like this should be kicked into full fruiting mode, I suppose, without casing, this time. Damn.

I guess it's not so bad, considering the substrate is too moist anyways (tons of metabolites and water droplets on surface of mycelium, and it has been 3 days short of two weeks since spawning, and the mycel is not snow white, signifying a way too wet substrate =(. Live n learn

ANyways, these ARE pins, correct? There are these and a few others that look similar. They look werid, what will be the caps are soooo tiny compared to the stalk.


Now: Why did this happen?
Possibilities:

-Polyfil holes were covered with saran wrap, which was duct taped. The saran wrap may have not be an airtight seal.

-The tubs were taken out off a shelf mabe 5 times total, which could have flexed the tub and sucked in fresh air, and along with the light these were exposed to when taken out, this could have caused pinning?

What do you think? It'd be nice to avoid premature pinning next time =(

I thought pinning wasn't so easily triggered as long as you seal up the tub somewhat. On the top of the tub was saran wrap with micropore tape covering 5 holes.

Damn! O well, this will still kick ass. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.



Pic is taken with a flash, so water droplets are more easily visible and mycelium looks whiter than it is.


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Re: Uh oh..pinning initiated before casing.. [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7647019 - 11/17/07 08:59 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Dunno really why this would happen. Does a monotub during colonization need to be 100% sealed up, excluding micropore tape holes? It seems like these things are very sensitive to CO2 concentration. I mean, the tub was sealed, somewhat, but definitely was not airtight. I think the problem may be a combination of disturbing the tub, bringing it into the light multiple times, and moving it which caused fresh air in there, multiple times. Be more patient next time, maybe? Ok, I'll stop responding to my own post now. LOL!


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Re: Uh oh..pinning initiated before casing.. [Re: VisionsToReality]
    #7647110 - 11/17/07 09:49 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

That does look quite wet, have you tried fanning it heavily to try and remove some of that moisture.

I think those pins look ok, when heads should start growing bigger soon, on all my grows on cakes, the head started prettymuch the same size as the stalks then grew big.

I think when its colinising it just needs gas exchange, lid on the tub with the polyfill holes for gass exchange.

Since its already pinning, i think it would be best to leave it fruit, then once the first flush is complelty rehydrate it and case it.

But i have never done monotubs, just what i think i would do.,


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Re: Uh oh..pinning initiated before casing.. [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7647139 - 11/17/07 10:10 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

hmm.. well looks like fruiting begins today, will last until weds, then the thing will be UNATTENDED with a fan blowing on it (either in the window light or with timed flouros) from weds-sunday.

will most likely come home to a mess of spores but whatever, shit happens, twas unplanned.

yeah definitely too moist, and the weird part is that it seemed to be at field capacity. it was squeezed rather toughly until a drop came out

so this leads me to believe straw may have helped
it was 2-3 year old decomposed horse poop, with a few worms in it (taken out, of course) with maybe 30-40% coco coir added and 10% coffee grounds.

it seems like depending on the structure/texture of the substrate, field capacity may or may not be a good thing

if there was straw mixed in, maybe it'd be more aerated, and maybe the moisture would therefore not be such an issue? but it didn't seem too aerated, seeing as it was pretty decomposed. eh, who knows. either way, it's good to know that moisture will (hopefully) not be lacking. better too moist than too dry, i suppose


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