really enjoy tripping on lsd four days after your last 500+ mic trip, and like it better than the more colorful first day?
So this question only has to do with those who understand the dose scale, and have used 500+ mics 2-4 days apart.
I know 500 mics is actually a shitload of lsd contrary to populare belief (for a variety of reasons). I still had to ask this question.
I find that the first day(a fresh and tolerance-free mind), is more colorful, more pure feeling, more potent feeling, more perfect, more geometric, more visual in a way, more......well, full.
3+ days after the first experience, on the same dose as the first, it just gets softer and softer (less intense).
My main question, has this ever happened to you? Does it work like clockwork like it does for me?
What happens:
-The trip follows less strict psychedelic rules. - potential anxiety is cripled -Weird shit happens left and right as if you are sinking into something really fucking deep and weird that needs explanation. -The visuals become less pronounced but sort of become a part of the world around you(a trippy idea in its self). - the visuals seem to not eminate from your minds eyes, but instead seem to be projected by the objects in your feild of vision. - objects dont just shift with overlapping geometries, but they truely become alive. As if the psychedelic experience is trying to show you something new, unique and very weird. -reality becomes very new, and you naturaly gravitate toward the unspeakable. -unspeakable, like you were on your way there days before and your tolerance has given you access to a more realistic, controlled, and mind bending approach to the reality of the psychedelic mind set. -everything is synchronistic and falls into all too predictable places. -the visuals resemble what you see, but they become less psychedelic, and more like another fucking dimention(unifying the mind and external environment).
-Objects become hilarious, and seem to have a personality, both in form and visually, as if you are meeting the visuals half way now.
- You can remember the grain, or a perfect pattern of thousands of leaves on a nearby tree better than you can remember why you would care about working out internal issues if needed. - the tree near by has a fucking geometric personality, though it may not be as visual/colorful as a few days ago.
- Understanding photographic memory.
- fucking with your brain so thoroughly that you dont care about visuals, because they become a part of your reality. - the visuals somehow, and in an unspeakable way, become real. And , very useful. - you walk by a neighbors garage and the light is on and the garage door is opened. You cannot tell what the fuck he is keeping in there. It just looks like a computerized version of its former self. But not like the first night 3-4 days ago. This time It was less visual, but more meaningful and real. Ever shape became an alien tool of realization. All sharp edges were curved. The visuals were still, very real, and were projected at me, not from me(was my feeling). -------------------------------------------------------------
Anyways, this is for all the high dosers out there who wonder about the same things, and I wonder if this somewhat ambiguous post actually means something to anyone because If some one posted this I would certainly be amazed that someone else finds some value in having a high tolerance.
This is my expression of how high tolerance can be a good thing and when dealing with high doses, only makes things much more amazing for those of use who I guess you could say are uncommon.
Mushrooms work in a similare way for me, but lsd is sort of what I am talking about. Having your external environment fused with your mind is one hell of a thing, even if its a bit less visual and cognition is more calm and pliable/ordered.
This isnt even the half of it in my experience. I just wanted to know if anyone else feels the same way about making the experience real, and unspeakable BECAUSE you just took the same substance again within the reach of tolerance.
There is nothing like experiencing a new reality, and when dealing with high doses(500+mics of lsd), tolerance may not be such a bad thing when dosing in close proximity to your last trip.
Just wondering if anyone has had this sort of reverse tolerance effect although the "first trip" was visually and cognitively way more geometric and visual, and the second trip somehow had more interesting insight to provide and was actually in its own unique way, more visual, more usefull.
when the mind plays so many sides of consciousness and you see things you should not see, see things you might not want to see, and understand the implications without becoming what some might refer to as a "fucking nutter".
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Edited by yageman (11/16/07 10:41 PM)
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I have used LSD in the magnitude you speak of, during the summer. I was dosing at least every 4 days, for about a 3 months straight. The doses mainly resided in the 300 mic range, however a good handful of trips were high dosed (500+), following the prescribed dosing pattern of 3-5 days; This was when it was cheap and abundance, though---and jobless so another experiment like this one will have to wait.
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-The trip follows less strict psychedelic rules.
I'd say defiantly. It is as almost as if the "first trip" is more of an outsiders view of the trip; Like the psychedelic is trying to put on a perfectly performed play, to get its point across to you (would you say Axiom?) "The second trip" (after the 3+ days) is more like the play is over, everyone is going home, packing up for the night. There are very different points after the stage show.
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- potential anxiety is crippled
I don't get anxiety on LSD (or shrooms) from 150 mics to 1500 mics. I cannot relate to that one.
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-Weird shit happens left and right as if you are sinking into something really fucking deep and weird that needs explanation.
The best I can relate to this, is that the weird shit is maybe mostly subjective...your weird might be my normal and vice-versa. I can empathize however, as I have my own definitions of what this weird shit is, and it has happened to me from out in the woods, to the comfort of my own home. Again, I think the weirdness quality is due to a lack of separatism between "you" and "the drug" In other words, new areas of LSD are opened up to you once you become aware of the merging that can take place. It is how I can recall psychedelic mind states, in a way.
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-The visuals become less pronounced but sort of become a part of the world around you(a trippy idea in its self). - the visuals seem to not emanate from your minds eyes, but instead seem to be projected by the objects in your Field of vision.
When reading these two parts, I get the idea that there is some sort of acceptance of the visuals. Absolutely no expectations; At this point not even expecting to accept.
To me, visuals are simultaneously amazing, and high valued (at least with the psyches I have done so far) and worthless. To be honest, Dungeons and Dragons have set the standard for my psychedelic experience. I have seen, felt, and done things (unspeakable things as well, and not related to the game itself, but within the game) in Active Group Meditation/Quantum Linear Storytelling (how I describe a good D&D session) that rival any psychedelic experience I have.
As far as the visuals emanating, I have had that quality before psychedelics took hold of me. I also see words (yes, conversational synesthia) Words look like bricks to me. Objects have always spoke to me in ways I cannot relate to most people. Artists and Musicians resonate relation to me most often.
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- objects dint just shift with overlapping geometries, but they truly become alive. As if the psychedelic experience is trying to show you something new, unique and very weird.
Are you trying to say there is a forced, extroverted anthropomorphizing of objects? Is this available after experiencing the above effect, for re visitation, during sobriety and later dosing? If so, then yes, although there may have to be further clarifications necessary in order for me to more easily meet you half way on this; for the most part, yes.
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- fucking with your brain so thoroughly that you don't care about visuals, because they become a part of your reality.
YES! There is great benefit to practicing psychedelics so that visuals can take a ride on the back burner to take care of other issues and/or find new stuff, both inner and outer. This comment also resonates with how I feel about psychedelics in general, because of D&D.
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Just wondering if anyone has had this sort of reverse tolerance effect although the "first trip" was visually and cognitively way more geometric and visual, and the second trip somehow had more interesting insight to provide and was actually in its own unique way, more visual, more usefully.
when the mind plays so many sides of consciousness and you see things you should not see, see things you might not want to see, and understand the implications without becoming what some might refer to as a "fucking nutter".
I'd say I do, to sum up my response (I could go on for a while, about this, but I am strapped for time---I only have a little while:-) Revisiting a place over and over is waaaay different than living there. Many people who do psychedelics primarily visit....sometimes often (week to week) however to high dose again A.S.A.P is living there. I have a timeshare in LSD space, actually.<<Joke?......
I'd say it is more useful though, BECAUSE of its strangeness, difference in relativity to the "clean" trip. LSD has many sides to it, some of which is very un-LSD like, which can make sense, depending on how you want to define LSD. It is fun to go against the grain, in some cases.
Anyway, more for ya later, (Psycho)-naut.<<Joke. Definately. Not funny, though.
Good post, also! I love talking in extreme depth about these things; Something I feel I don't get to do nearly often enough.
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