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EdSloan
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hoopershroomer said: if you had really been on an "active mushroom hunt for 5 YEARS", you would've took initiative for the simple task of actually researching what hell you were doing, what mushrooms your looking for and HOW TO GO ABOUT IT (ie: how to pic the mushrooms)
if you did this(which its obvious you didnt) it would've been obvious to you that you should use scissors to pick the mushrooms, not fucking just rip the mushrooms out of the ground tearing up the mycelia...duh
if you were blah blah blah
dude did you know that the roots of the grass hold down the substrate and prevent most damage?
mushrooms that are growing in grass dont need scissors, but woodchip ones do. if you were really newbie pwning material, you would have done your research 
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 first of all thats a completely false statement that mushrooms growing out of woodchips 'need' scissors. i've picked mushrooms from woodchips with my hands many times, and the patch continued to prosper......so get your shit strait on that  and because of the simple fact that grass roots hold down the substrate does not justify ripping the mushrooms out of the ground like that. it is clear that the mushrooms this guy picked uprooted mycelia along with the mushroom and that certaintly wouldnt be healthy for the patch
and next time you try to pwn someone using a smiley, u might wanna make sure it works to get the full effect, with your newbie 15 post count 
eyefyndum has been around since 02
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NWDude
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OregonBluesGil, what type of card bord did you use and dose it mater? like is there any kind that will just kill the root ball because it hase some glue that acts like a fungicide?
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: EdSloan]
#7648512 - 11/17/07 06:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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hoopershroomer said: if you had really been on an "active mushroom hunt for 5 YEARS", you would've took initiative for the simple task of actually researching what hell you were doing, what mushrooms your looking for and HOW TO GO ABOUT IT (ie: how to pic the mushrooms)
if you did this(which its obvious you didnt) it would've been obvious to you that you should use scissors to pick the mushrooms, not fucking just rip the mushrooms out of the ground tearing up the mycelia...duh
if you were blah blah blah
dude did you know that the roots of the grass hold down the substrate and prevent most damage?
mushrooms that are growing in grass dont need scissors, but woodchip ones do. if you were really newbie pwning material, you would have done your research 
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 first of all thats a completely false statement that mushrooms growing out of woodchips 'need' scissors. i've picked mushrooms from woodchips with my hands many times, and the patch continued to prosper......so get your shit strait on that  and because of the simple fact that grass roots hold down the substrate does not justify ripping the mushrooms out of the ground like that. it is clear that the mushrooms this guy picked uprooted mycelia along with the mushroom and that certaintly wouldnt be healthy for the patch
and next time you try to pwn someone using a smiley, u might wanna make sure it works to get the full effect, with your newbie 15 post count 
eyefyndum has been around since 02
maybe in birthdate terms but whoa who is this guy!? trying to defend someone with a higher post count than you?
you also need to get your shit strait.
if you look at his info, it says he registered 9/8/07, not in 02', bud. even if he WAS around since 02' that still doesnt have anything to do with my comment towards his postcount. 
i am actually really quite curious as to what made you say something that dumb anyway....
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EdSloan
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some people make new names every hunting season, so they cant/arent tracked, or just for the hell of it.
eyefyndum has been here since 2002. he showed me this site in 2005. i have been here since 2005. just because you like to say your real name and your friends real names globally on this site doesnt mean other have to either. the day you get busted is the day i will wonder why you said anything that dumb anyway also.
i have been busted before by posting pics online and giving away too much info such as my name and town i live in. be it not on the shroomery, but im living proof that its possible.
dont make the same mistake, and dont be such a hardass cause you have your own patch of mushrooms that puts out alot.
your name is in a thread or two, your friends name is in a thread or two, your town location is in a thread or two also, which parks you skate at and harvest from are in the same threads also, and you brag about harvesting a dry pound worth of mushrooms and selling some of them. sounds a lot more stupid than me telling you that eyefyndum has been here longer than you have.
and for the record, a websters dictionary description for scissors is two blades intersecting to make a cut, meaning fingernails could be a prime example.
no need to be so exact and hardass about it, and for the record, pulling them is fine as long as u hold the substrate down and dont let it rise up and tear away mycelium, and dont put too much pressure on the woodchips with your hands causing "trampling" which also tears mycelium by pulling the substrate apart to hold the weight.
take it from someone whos learned from one of the best, and who has changed his ways to keep himself safe and anonymous in this cyber-space. i used to be a stupid kid myself, JUST LIKE YOU, took me getting my ass hauled in with 3lbs of mushrooms before i decided maybe i was doing the wrong thing and saying too much. all it took to get chapped was everything u have already said son.
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: EdSloan]
#7649200 - 11/17/07 09:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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oh snap nukkaz
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snoot
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what came first the spore or the fungaloids. ":":" ??????
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: snoot]
#7649297 - 11/17/07 10:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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that´s an easy one the oraganizism
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: EdSloan]
#7650647 - 11/18/07 11:40 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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EdSloan said: some people make new names every hunting season, so they cant/arent tracked, or just for the hell of it.
eyefyndum has been here since 2002. he showed me this site in 2005. i have been here since 2005. just because you like to say your real name and your friends real names globally on this site doesnt mean other have to either. Quote:
ok that is pretty understandable. im thinking i might want to change my name soon here too. neway, can you please direct me to any post i've made that I stated mine or any of my friends name, because idk wtf your talking about saying i've said my name on this site. to my knowledge, and unless i smoke too much weed, i have never said my name on this site.
also if you dont mind i woulod appreciate if you please pm telling me just how you got caught, and possibly what happened when you were caught.....i am quite curious about this thanx
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notapillow
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no dude you have said your name. i dont remember where. but it was in a post about basket ball. some other hunter knew you and you both said your name small world  i get parinoid too. but thankfully i dont ever eat mushrooms.
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theyre very nice cyans, id love to find a patch.
i just pick em, with a lil twist so it removes only the slightest (if any) mycelium.
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: scout24]
#7650966 - 11/18/07 12:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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scout24 said: How can you be sure that you've hurt the fungus? As you stated in the same post, there is no scientific evidence for either position.
There is no doubt, however, that using scissors is: 1) suspicious, and; 2) yields a partial specimen.
When you tear mycelium, it has to recover, and cyans are a fall fruiter, and it is cold, so their mycelium growth is much slower. When you tear the shroom from the mycelium, it will have a very slow recovery, probably till next year, and this damage is felt through the patch.
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EdSloan
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: budmanman]
#7651246 - 11/18/07 02:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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im not an artist of paint, but this is best i can elaborate.
say u pulled any of the mushrooms in the photos while holdng down the chips, the entire patch would still be connected by the highway of strands, yes?
say u pulled the center mushroom out with the chips and all, well u just severed the whole structure in half, causing a big loss in teamwork and nutrient uptake throughout the patch.
its not often that u sever the patch from itself, but it does happen, and if u are tugging them all up, its going to happen sooner or later and u will lose much yield. holding the substrate down and just pulling the hyphal knot and stem butt up does not tear these highways of nutrients and information.
cutting them and leaving behind a stem-butt is ok, and most woodlovers will actually coat their damaged stembutts with their own mycelium and re-digest themselves.
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: EdSloan]
#7651640 - 11/18/07 05:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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> say u pulled the center mushroom out with the chips and all, well u just severed the whole structure in half, causing a big loss in teamwork and nutrient uptake throughout the patch.
Mycellial mats are 3d networks of strands, pulling out a few of them will not separate the rest of the network.
Mycelium is like the internet - it treats censorship (broken strands) as a network outage and routes around it.
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EdSloan
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yes alan it does grow around and reconnect lost ends, but when the mushrooms mycelium colonizes around 65deg F, and fruits at 50deg F, then when fruiting is happening like budmanman says, its not optimal for mycelial regrowth, and it usually recovers by next season and not within' the following flushes, which is why yield will be changed for that season. its also not common for temps in the PNW to go back to 65deg during the fruiting season, it usually gets colder and colder until the season stops.
like i said, its not usual that this happends - the patch severage, but when your pulling them up with chips and all, eventually your going to hit a spot where you rip up a bunch of important and wider strands that transfer a lot of information, causing a slowth or stop of information and nutrients. even 5-10 mushrooms with chips may be a deadly mistake.
what u quoted of me was only a description of my diagram, and my diagram was not exact but made to make a point and explain what happends to a patch when u pull out important freeways of information and the patch all of a sudden stops fruiting or slows its production.
the temperature statistics and fact that most woodlovers redigest their stem-butts are things ive read in stamets.
all this to make a point in saying that when u hold the substrate down its ok to pull out the fruit bodies stem-butts and all.
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Edited by EdSloan (11/18/07 05:30 PM)
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NWDude
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: EdSloan]
#7651855 - 11/18/07 06:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think the patch is going to be ok because i left alot of them in there. also i took one of the stem buts and put it in papar cup full of moist shreded card bord kinda like planing a seed in a pot except it was more like transplanting the stump of the mushroom into it. then i beried the cup in a woodchip mulchpile that already has mushrooms growing from it except there lookalikes of these ones. i think that they will be ok and i dont plan on uprooting them any more if i do go out there to pick them again.
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: EdSloan]
#7653488 - 11/19/07 03:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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EdSloan said:
even 5-10 mushrooms with chips may be a deadly mistake.
Ouch, really? I think I may have done a bit of damage...Thats ok. This find is in an awful, very public place. Not ideal for anyone to enjoy. I have spawned chips going right now, so, I'll do my duties and spread them as far and wide as I can this spring.
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NWDude
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: akb112211]
#7656193 - 11/19/07 06:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Check it out.. I put one of end peaces on a soaked, torn up toilet paper tube then berried it just barley under the surface of the ground. that was 3 days ago that I did this. then just a few minutes ago i decided to dig it up and examine it and to my surprise its getting all fuzzy and looking like its about to accelerate and engulf the entire peace of card bord! its the coolest thing i have ever seen!!
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: NWDude]
#7656596 - 11/19/07 08:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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There's no need to bury the cardboard if you're going to dig it up. Curecat has a simple guide for coffecup cardboard.
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EdSloan
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: scout24]
#7656736 - 11/19/07 08:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah coffee sleeves work great all staples up and soaked with the stembutts in em, u can leave em outside or in your cupboard it dont matter much. they like 65deg F for colonization mostly, but will colonize slower at other temps though it WILL colonize.
u dont need to bury em, just dont let it get frozen when the 32deg F temps come!!!
and dont overbake them in the sun.
best to put them in a shoebox under your house or porch, airing them out every weekend or so, best results doing this!!!\
SPREAD THE MYCELIUM!!!! yeaaahhhh, totally awesome of you!!! when i get enough posts i will give u 5 shroom rating for your awesomeness and love for fungi!!
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