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NWDude
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YEaahhhhh!!!!
#7645258 - 11/16/07 06:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well today i found my first real haul of mushrooms.. I have been on a active mushroom hunting mission for 5 years now and have finaly found them! I was walking along and looked down and they wer. just chillen in a little patch of grass. I felt like a buck hunter coming up on a moose


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ganjapoi
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: NWDude]
#7645274 - 11/16/07 06:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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sweet! i had my first finds today too. its a good day
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: ganjapoi]
#7645296 - 11/16/07 06:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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thats a good little haul for a few nice doses. those are cyanescens right?
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: ganjapoi]
#7645322 - 11/16/07 06:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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if you had really been on an "active mushroom hunt for 5 YEARS", you would've took initiative for the simple task of actually researching what hell you were doing, what mushrooms your looking for and HOW TO GO ABOUT IT (ie: how to pic the mushrooms)
if you did this(which its obvious you didnt) it would've been obvious to you that you should use scissors to pick the mushrooms, not fucking just rip the mushrooms out of the ground tearing up the mycelia...duh
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NWDude
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ok sorry man:( ill cut them next time find them
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hoopershroomer said: if you had really been on an "active mushroom hunt for 5 YEARS", you would've took initiative for the simple task of actually researching what hell you were doing, what mushrooms your looking for and HOW TO GO ABOUT IT (ie: how to pic the mushrooms)
if you did this(which its obvious you didnt) it would've been obvious to you that you should use scissors to pick the mushrooms, not fucking just rip the mushrooms out of the ground tearing up the mycelia...duh
if you were blah blah blah
dude did you know that the roots of the grass hold down the substrate and prevent most damage?
mushrooms that are growing in grass dont need scissors, but woodchip ones do. if you were really newbie pwning material, you would have done your research 
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: eyefyndum]
#7645466 - 11/16/07 07:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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No. You don't need scissors, as long as you are gentle plucking them so as not to damage the patch, and you put the stem bases to good use (start new patches!).
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scout24
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: CureCat]
#7645959 - 11/16/07 09:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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CureCat said: No. You don't need scissors, as long as you are gentle plucking them so as not to damage the patch, and you put the stem bases to good use (start new patches!).
Why use scissors?
It's amazing how fast mycelium grows! I can't imagine that pulling up a chip or two in order to obtain a whole specimen damages a healthy patch. I believe cactu is of the opinion that some damage to the mycelium actually encourages growth, and I believe it.
Scissors on the other hand are: 1) suspicious and; 2) leave a portion of the specimen behind. It's easy to believe that the remaining stem butts rot and open the mycelium to infection.
And the best part of removing whole specimens is that the base material is easily cultivated. 
The choice is clear to me.
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: scout24]
#7646045 - 11/16/07 10:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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men you are in the very top of my list( the list of people that are going to change the world) ,scout24 , since the beginning .
the world is changing let´s change with it.....
let´s go back to the beginning . i´ll leave you with this to think about , who was first the hand or the scissors?
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Edited by cactu (11/16/07 10:13 PM)
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: cactu]
#7646111 - 11/16/07 10:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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who was first the hand or the scissors?
cactu has a good point there. haha funny.
The shrooms are here on this earth for humans to do whatever they want with them.
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: scout24]
#7646140 - 11/16/07 10:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's easy to believe that the remaining stem butts rot and open the mycelium to infection.
Mycelium deals with rotting FULL-BODIED mushrooms all the time. A little stem butt shouldn't hurt it or leave it open to any kind of infection.
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: Drewwyann]
#7646187 - 11/16/07 11:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Drewwyann said:
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It's easy to believe that the remaining stem butts rot and open the mycelium to infection.
Mycelium deals with rotting FULL-BODIED mushrooms all the time. A little stem butt shouldn't hurt it or leave it open to any kind of infection.
Yes, but a FULL-BODIED mushroom is not a SLICED-OPEN mushroom stem. Admittedly, I have no direct evidence that it causes infection, but is there any direct evidence that pulling a mushroom out with some mycelium intact damages the organism?
If not, then pulling is better than cutting.
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: scout24]
#7646215 - 11/16/07 11:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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The mushroom stem would dry up and die. Nothing would spread to the mycelium. I would think yanking a mushroom out of the ground, and exposing the mycelium would pose a greater threat. There's two ways to look at this argument, so i don't think it's fair to say which one is correct, seeing as there is no scientific basis for either claim. Simply saying that pulling is better than cutting, or cutting is better than pulling would be merely opinion.

Edit: Though in argument for the cutting method, when you pull out mycelium, you are pulling out more of the organism than you really need to, which leads me to believe that cutting is better. I don't know though. But if you take out a lot of mushrooms from a certain patch with the pulling method, you can be sure that you've hurt the fungus.
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scout24
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: Drewwyann]
#7646267 - 11/16/07 11:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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How can you be sure that you've hurt the fungus? As you stated in the same post, there is no scientific evidence for either position.
There is no doubt, however, that using scissors is: 1) suspicious, and; 2) yields a partial specimen.
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scout24
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: Drewwyann]
#7646460 - 11/17/07 12:32 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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double post
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Edited by scout24 (11/17/07 12:33 AM)
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EdSloan
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: scout24]
#7647309 - 11/17/07 11:17 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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many people have witnessed the evidence that it harms the patch.
on a cultivated cake of dung lovers u can easily pluck them off with a bit of substrate attatched to the mushroom, no problem. but wood lovers are a bit different and yield is definitely hurt when u pluck woodchips up with the mushroom.
I once had 7 patches in santa cruz, CA
showed 6 of them to friends, kept my largest
the next year I had 1 patch, cause the others had mushrooms pulled from them leaving little pockets in the ground. most of the mycelium was still there but it was so shocked that it died back and no mushrooms have fruited there to this day.
pulling out mycelium has shown me that it can reduce the next flush to as low as 30% of the previous flush, either that or it just stops fruiting. sometimes it keeps growing, but more than half the time its quite hurt or shocked by losing so much of its mycelial structure.
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: EdSloan]
#7647415 - 11/17/07 12:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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EdSloan : all you said is absolute true that why i guess people begging(the old ones) long time ago to use scissor , obviously someone that leave a hole in the patch and don´t cut all rhizomorphs that go long and may pull lot of woodchipps, of course they rape the patch , the suggestion is to remove the fruit body, sometimes twisting until all connection loose and then you gently pull , it take some patience and time and love, you understand when is hurting and where is not, then any hole of course should be replenish with more substrate ,from where? from around ¡ ,leaves, more wood chips not colonize, i don´t know any thing to help the mycelium not be in contact with the light, air,and heat or cold, that pretty basic, when i go to my patches i take care of then i hide the next generation with leaves i gathered around , so people cannot look at it, you would not believe how many places are to public view even is in the forest.well the flushes all mushrooms have , well are spaced some how with some days of rest, you should recognize all the stages of your patch to do a correct picking ,is not only that you use or not use scissor, is also how are the fructification going, big, strong, fat , meaty , all count and tell you the health of the mycelium few poor small fruit body tell you the mycelium is dying, so you all should take care of your patch it does not matter where you are picking primary decomposer of wood or second decomposer the rule apply to any mushrooms, when you pick mushrooms of course you hurt the mycelium , but some how the mycelium know is mean to be, so , what you do? , you say i did this Small damage , but will replenish it with more food more humid habitat and more dark light for you , what the mycelium do well he said since i lost my fruit body but i have more food, more humid, and more space to grow i will take some time growing , and will have the desire to fruit when i need to. i´m not saying scissor are bad it can be use in some situations, but also i guess will be the best for perdokers , since is foolproof . not saying is bad just i say is that is not bad to pull some mycelium nicely and replenish with some more food , and not cut all mushrooms at once, this really effect the mycelium the pin should stay until they developed most of his maturity, then cut , and so on, leave few to rot and spread spores , or Root ones you found put then in some place else you see favorable, can´t hurt, all my best .. when you Begin to understand the mushrooms he will tell you all his secrets, we are only playing..........................
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Re: YEaahhhhh!!!! [Re: eyefyndum]
#7647436 - 11/17/07 12:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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eyefyndum said:
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hoopershroomer said: if you had really been on an "active mushroom hunt for 5 YEARS", you would've took initiative for the simple task of actually researching what hell you were doing, what mushrooms your looking for and HOW TO GO ABOUT IT (ie: how to pic the mushrooms)
if you did this(which its obvious you didnt) it would've been obvious to you that you should use scissors to pick the mushrooms, not fucking just rip the mushrooms out of the ground tearing up the mycelia...duh
if you were blah blah blah
dude did you know that the roots of the grass hold down the substrate and prevent most damage?
mushrooms that are growing in grass dont need scissors, but woodchip ones do. if you were really newbie pwning material, you would have done your research 
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 first of all thats a completely false statement that mushrooms growing out of woodchips 'need' scissors. i've picked mushrooms from woodchips with my hands many times, and the patch continued to prosper......so get your shit strait on that  and because of the simple fact that grass roots hold down the substrate does not justify ripping the mushrooms out of the ground like that. it is clear that the mushrooms this guy picked uprooted mycelia along with the mushroom and that certaintly wouldnt be healthy for the patch
and next time you try to pwn someone using a smiley, u might wanna make sure it works to get the full effect, with your newbie 15 post count 
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omg i just t0taly pwned you in mushrooming lawlz!!1
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OregonBluesGil
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pick by hand,some spots are in area were u have to move fast cutting with scirrors isn't possible,A little root ball of the shroom can be spawned onto cardboard,to make mother patches,and when I've done this patches if anything increase the yield,one patch this week has exploded since I hand picked last week,The Mycleium is a huge oraganizism,over decent size area,The mushrooms are just the fruit of the oraganizism,
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