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#764500 - 07/21/02 11:27 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bush cried and cried and after everything was said and done the UN agreed to give one years immunity for US soldiers in the world court...
I think its funny when Bush claims that hes doing this for the soldiers and hes protecting them from a court outside of the US spectrum when really soldiers arent often tried, its the top brass and even the president himself that gets tried for the crimes.
Anyway, Ill sleep better knowing that Bush will get away with genocide and other crimes against humanity for the next year. I feel better about my country knowing that Americans killing babies and destroying entire villages can do so without reprive.
It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling of comfort to know that weve now got a one year window of opourtunity to invaide Iraq and "by any means necissary, remove Sadam Hussain from power" (George Bush). It gives me great pride knowing that the US is the only nation to drop the big one on civilians to protect their own troops and that we can now do it again without all that messy court stuff.
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: GabbaDj]
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Well if i recall bushieys way was full imunity all the time. Forever. What he got was a year long supension on investigations of previos incedents. Comprimise you know. Fuck bush. Stop misinformation.
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: GabbaDj]
#764681 - 07/21/02 01:11 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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In reply to:
Anyway, Ill sleep better knowing that Bush will get away with genocide and other crimes against humanity for the next year.
I wasn't aware Bush commited genocide or crimes against humanity.
In reply to:
I feel better about my country knowing that Americans killing babies and destroying entire villages can do so without reprive.
Could you perhaps be just a little more dramatic?
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>>>I wasn't aware Bush commited genocide or crimes against humanity. <<<
Bush administration and the CIA is under investigation by the rest of the world for the slaughter of thousands of Afghan citizens, its not well publicised buy its true.
Only thing is that without us being involved in the world court nothing can be done short of someone wageing war on the US and sending their military over.
>>>Could you perhaps be just a little more dramatic? <<<
Yes. Yes I could.
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: GabbaDj]
#765106 - 07/21/02 03:57 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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wow..you sure are worked up... 
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: GabbaDj]
#766205 - 07/21/02 10:35 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Worked up and rather silly.
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What's silly about that?
I can't understand... Get your bits of information!!!
We've seen all this being done many other times in the last 40 years...
But all we need is another double cheeseburger... yeah... 
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: White_Widow]
#766597 - 07/22/02 05:40 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Personally I'm baffled at how George Bush could even ASK for immunity from the world court. If you have commited a crime against humanity you should pay...simple. Why should the U.S. be any different?...just because you are powerful? I call bullshit...with great power comes great reponsibility, and the U.S. is pissing off alot of countries with this "holier than thou bullshit." How much longer do you think the rest of the world is going to put up with it?...I'm wagering not for much longer.
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#766710 - 07/22/02 06:33 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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In the begining they were telling everybody about how precision bombing, and after all these villiges getting bombed, and not much else to bomb they say that it might not have been as "precise" as stated.
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: Anonymous]
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Yeah I feel for the innocents in Afghan that died. But genocide? Not even close. Bush is a big pussy, both of em, and not very smart at that. But why do soldiers need immunity? I thought it was the ones who gave the orders who got in trouble. And good lord, baby killing? Yeah, I bet they have contests to see who can kill the most babies and rape the most women in an hour. Evil soldiers! Actually I know two marines who went over there and they barely saw any action each.
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: Rono]
#766944 - 07/22/02 08:25 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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How much longer do you think the rest of the world is going to put up with it?...I'm wagering not for much longer.
I'm not trying to be antagonistic, but what do you think 'the rest of the world' will do? Will they attack the U.S.? Will they capture some U.S. army personnel and put them on trial? If so, how will they respond when U.S. Special Forces come in and rescue them?
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but what do you think 'the rest of the world' will do?
This is exactly the type of thinking that I find very dangerous...the belief that the U.S. is all-powerful. Despite the fact that yes, the U.S. is far and away the most powerful nation on earth right now, history has showed over and over that empires rise and fall and to think that America will always be the biggest, baddest bully on the block would be foolish.
for example..China probably would give the U.S. a good run for it's money by itself, just from the sheer volume of people it has in it's military...nevermind it's nuclear capabilities. Why do think that the U.S. is avoiding any kind of conflct with them?...they are sleeping a giant and the U.S. government knows it. What chance do you think the almighty U.S. Special forces have against overwhelming numbers?...I would have to say zero to none.
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: Rono]
#767287 - 07/22/02 10:19 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is exactly the type of thinking that I find very dangerous...the belief that the U.S. is all-powerful.
Rono, I prefaced my statement with "I'm not trying to be antagonistic" and I meant it. I was in no way implying nor do I believe that the U.S. is 'all-powerful.' It was a legitimate question.
What chance do you think the almighty U.S. Special forces have against overwhelming numbers?...I would have to say zero to none.
You obviously don't understand the nature of special forces and how they might rescue soldiers who were held in... say, The Hague. More than likely it would be a 'surgical strike' with overwhelming force in a very limitied area. Do you think the Dutch or U.N. forces would be able to stop them? Perhaps, but they would risk escalating a situation into a full war. So other nations will respond with overwhelming force? Do you think the European nations have the resolve to try to engage the U.S. in an all out war? I don't. Do you think the average European citizen would want this? I don't. Do you think that the Chinese would come to the aid of Europe? I don't. Do you think the Russians would jump in? I don't. Both the Chinese and Russians would find it to their advantage to let the Europeans and Americans duke it out. Where would Great Britain's support come in, on the side of the colonies or the European mainland? Hmmm...
I think it's a very unlikely scenario that the whole world would engage the U.S. in a war, which is the implication I was getting from your previous statements.
history has showed over and over that empires rise and fall and to think that America will always be the biggest, baddest bully on the block would be foolish.
I agree, but empires usually are weakened from within. It is after they start to fall apart internally that other powers may arise to fill the vacuum left by the old power. The Soviet Union fell apart without a major military conflict. This will happen to the U.S., it has already started but may take many many decades to play out. As it does, there will be no need for overwhelming numbers from other nations to do battle with it.
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I was in no way implying nor do I believe that the U.S. is 'all-powerful.' It was a legitimate question.
You're right, it was..and I apologize if you felt that I was attacking you personally. But the impression I got from your statement was "there is nothing the rest of the world can do"...
You obviously don't understand the nature of special forces
I spent 4 years in the military, trust me...I know all about special forces and what they can do...but I never stated anywhere that anybody was going to get kidnapped..you did. I have no idea what's going to happen, I'm not psychic...but I do know that good ol' G.W. is pissing alot of people off...including his own people...which would take us to your next statement...
empires usually are weakened from within
You are absolutely right when you said it is happening...and when it does happen it's gonna be ugly. Alot of innocent U.S. citizens are going to be imprisoned without a trial or right to counsel in these coming years if GW has his way...
And when do you think would be the best time for an enemy to strike?...while the U.S. is in chaos from within. I'm sure we both have similar opinions on this, but perhaps are misunderstanding eachother.
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: Rono]
#767442 - 07/22/02 11:10 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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And when do you think would be the best time for an enemy to strike?...while the U.S. is in chaos from within.
Yes it would be best to strike when the U.S. is falling apart within. I think that China would be the country to take advantage of this in their quest to dominate Asia. They may very well be able to do this without firing a shot at U.S. forces because there will come a time when the U.S. simply cannot afford to maintain a military presence all over the world and will retreat back to North America. If this doesn't happens before China feels strong enough to retake Taiwan, we will probably see a conflict in that part of the world. My hunch is that China will not be patient enough to wait for the U.S. to peacefully abandon it's outposts in Asia.
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To the topic at hand, Bush did the right thing. At least he is man enough to try to protect soldiers after he orders them to kill innocent civilians. I see no reason for U.S. citizens to be put under the world court; be they soldiers or otherwise. The world court is a slap in the face to national sovereignty. Yes, there are evil people in power that do awful, evil, dispicable things to the citizens of their country. These things are bad and should be condemed, but, outside of a war tribunal there should be no such thing as a world court.
I agree, should there be a real attack on the U.S., that it would come from China. I am not seriously concerned with having a marine protect me though; not yet at least. I still have one or two weapons that should suffice to repel any armed invasion. 
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: ]
#769333 - 07/23/02 12:38 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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How much longer do you think the rest of the world is going to put up with it?...I'm wagering not for much longer
What do you mean 'rest of the world'? UK is US's little bitch, Canada is US's bitch. France, Italy, pretty much all of Europe, Japan, Russia. All pretty much US's bitches. Most will not turn their backs to US, in fear mostly. The other countries could start something, But it wouldn't be without retaliation from pretty much all the other western countries. We have a lot more technology than them, too.
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UK is US's little bitch, Canada is US's bitch. France, Italy, pretty much all of Europe, Japan, Russia. All pretty much US's bitches.
This statement is precisely what I'm talking about...the danger of thinking the U.S. is almighty. What do you suppose would happen if G.W. used the words you just did?..calling the afore mentioned countries "Little Bitches"?...I doubt that their support of the U.S. would last much longer.
Are you aware that the U.S. get's MOST of it's natural resources from Canada?...we supply much of your country with electricity as well...how effective do you think your military would be without power? We also supply the processed plutonium for your almighty nukes...and all this is just how Canada helps the U.S. I'm sure the other countries provide much to the U.S. as well...The way I see it, the U.S. is the worlds spoiled, greedy little fat kid that needs a spanking...
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: Rono]
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That is very true, US is still not a fully developed country. Its more at its adolecent stage. Unfortunatly, the US is big, and a bully, and a brat, but I really don't see any of US's allies stepping up to them. I don't think any of these countries actually want to try to stop the US. You know.
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My point is, if the shit does come down and some country decides to go to war with the U.S...ie China. If the U.S. continues to throw it's weight around the way it does, then it's allies may very well say "fuck you"....
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: Rono]
#771225 - 07/23/02 05:02 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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The U.S. is far more vulnerable economically than militarily. Unfortunately, since
a) we have evolved into the high-consumption country we are (of fossil fuels, coffee, fossil fuels, minerals, sugar, fossil fuels, and beef, to name a few randomly);
b) for all the United States' resources, it can't possibly provide for so excessive a consumption rate without those imports;
and c) U.S. international business interests represent billions of dollars in investments, a major aspect of our economy, to be sure;
any significant freeze of these resources would constitute a "threat" to our "security" (food security, economic security, physical security, and so on, all somewhat interconnected). That would warrant military intervention, per a convoluted offspring of the Monroe Doctrine.
I'm not saying that it will go this way for sure, but I can imagine how, with a few causes here and a few effects there, that the U.S. could find itself safeguarding more and more of its foreign interests, to the degree that it becomes plain that it will justify itself in holding everyone else hostage in order to maintain its own "security".
And then who knows? We might find out who really is tougher--the U.S. (maybe throw a bitch or two in--Israel for one), or the rest of the world. It would be the end-all of Pyrrhic victories, where even the winners lose.
Edited by hongomon (07/23/02 06:01 PM)
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: hongomon]
#772258 - 07/24/02 03:57 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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excellent post.
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: Rono]
#773363 - 07/24/02 12:20 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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If these things were restricted durring a war which most Americans only know half about and understand only half of that it would be devistateing to community support for the war.
If someones favorite resturant closed or some politicians wife had to learn to bake a loaf of bread herself all while everyones bills raise by 200% and Americans are asked to conserve more We The People would shut down the war and demand that things go back to the way they were.
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: GabbaDj]
#773371 - 07/24/02 12:23 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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We The People would shut down the war and demand that things go back to the way they were.
By then it would be too late...
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: GabbaDj]
#774712 - 07/24/02 10:11 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Definitely another possible scenario. I agree with Rono though that it would probably be too late once those inconveniences reached the "more privileged". Any major radical reform will be impossible without a concerted We the People. What do you think would be an appropriate definition of "the way things were"?
I wonder if an economy is more vulnerable the more centralized it is. Any guesses? And what about nations?
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RE: ..."US is still not a fully developed country"...
uh... ok.
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: hongomon]
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>>>>"What do you think would be an appropriate definition of "the way things were"?"<<<<
Ignorant Bliss...
Best way I can describe it. Americans cant even point to a map to where the war is happening much less understand why its happening.. As long as they can still fill their SUVs for $50 and get a Big Mack Super Sized Meal for under $6 then really Americans will support whatevers going on..
Just wait untill things start getting hard on the every day person, youll see things get ugly and our truely selfish side come out.
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youll see things get ugly and our truely selfish side come out
..as opposed to the kind and generous nation you are now?
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RE: "As long as they can still fill their SUVs for $50 and get a Big Mack Super Sized Meal for under $6 then really Americans will support whatevers going on.."
This is very true... but at least the fast food industry is still mostly using American beef for there hamburgers... however they often pay minium wage for some of there jobs!! Thats a DISGRACE!!!
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: Jammer]
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...however they often pay minium wage for some of there jobs!! Thats a DISGRACE!!!
What do you propose that they pay a sixteen year old with no job history and an unproven work ethic? These are entry level jobs. If you want to pass a law that makes the wage higher, perhaps McDonalds and others will find it cost effective to increase automation, thereby eliminating multiple entry level jobs. Or, they could raise their prices enough and then their customers will find it too expensive to eat there - whoops they gotta lay off those formerly low paid workers, not enough business.
Just some thoughts on the concept of unintended consequences...
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I think that a person's salary should reflect more upon how hard they work and not much more.
The lowest paying jobs are often the ones the hardest... Sucks my highest paying job that I have ever had was also by far... the easiest job that I ever had.... The hardest work that I have done has always been for about minimum wage. (with no sitting in a chair nor air conditioning).
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: Jammer]
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I know it sucks, but generally the most physically demanding jobs require the least skill (professional athletes being one notable exception). Humans are after all, creatures of reason - our minds are our greatest assets and the market will reflect that to a great extent. I get paid a hell of a lot more programming than I ever did mopping floors or roofing, the work is much less physically demanding but more mentally precise requiring a lot more thought and the consequences of me fucking something up are economically much greater for those that pay me.
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You make a good point.
Another one of my pet-peeves is that I feel that the economy overly discounts how much common workers really do have to think. Even the lowest paid workers have to use there brains, and when they make a mistake they could cost there company many weeks worth of that employees salary (ex: production work).
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: Jammer]
#785905 - 07/30/02 08:09 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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If Im not thinking straight at work I will end up missing a few fingers...
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: GabbaDj]
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To go along with your missing marbles? 
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Well to play devil's advocate here...
If a production worker was to actualy cutt off his/her's own fingers off on the job most likely they will be drug tested before any surgery takes place. (no trust man.. )
I have seen serious injuries on the job. - it aint pretty!
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: Jammer]
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Thats why I cant smoke weed... If I get hurt on the job and I need to go to the doctor, the verry first thing they will do is test me, if I fail then I lose everything, my job, my benefits, Ill have to foot the bill for medical costs and its just not worth it for weed..
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Jammer
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: GabbaDj]
#788806 - 07/31/02 03:56 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Please dont misunderstand me. I have never worked a job while high. I find that to be way too risky. I also dont smoke weed that often any more. When I do choose to smoke it's always on my own private time- usally for a jamm session.
My problem is with urine/hair drug testing which can show pot use from many days/weeks ago. I understand that if a worker has an acident that blood samples (not urine) are used (I could be wrong) which only shows imparment at that time... not drug use from weeks ago).. In fact when someone comes into the ER bleeding it stands to reason that the blood is best used for drug testing.
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Edited by Jammer (07/31/02 08:38 PM)
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politikill
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: Jammer]
#791857 - 08/02/02 03:46 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Noam Chomsky
If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged
This statement is probably very close to the truth.
Luvdemshrooms if your reasoning was as strong as your name calling you might be worth agruing with....
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GabbaDj
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: Jammer]
#791986 - 08/02/02 05:42 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Jammer...
Depends on your union and their drug testing policy.. Mine is a urine test.. Now they wont make you pee in a bottle before stitching you up but you wil have to pee right after theyre done..
As for blood test.. It is just the same time window as urine. It is however impossible to fool. Theirs no way short of a blood transfusion to beat a blood test...
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luvdemshrooms
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: politikill]
#792554 - 08/02/02 11:06 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Name calling? Did I miss something? In this thread I have said the following that could possibly construed as name calling...
"Could you perhaps be just a little more dramatic?"
Doesn't seem like a name to me.
"Worked up and rather silly."
Seems like a horrible name to me.
Of course there was this "To go along with your missing marbles?" But perhaps you missed the smiley faces indicating I was joking around.
They look like this.....
Yes some pretty strong name calling there.
Perhaps you're just "Worked up and rather silly."
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Jammer
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Re: Bush gets his way. [Re: GabbaDj]
#794837 - 08/03/02 07:33 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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RE: "As for blood test.. It is just the same time window as urine. It is however impossible to fool. Theirs no way short of a blood transfusion to beat a blood test... "
I totaly disagree with this..... I'll try to post a link backing up my stament here soon. (I have read more than once that blood test's for thc only show intoxication at that time.. unlike urine/hair testing)
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Edited by Jammer (08/03/02 08:39 PM)
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