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Offlinezappaisgod
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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: Redstorm]
    #7638380 - 11/15/07 05:17 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Redstorm said:
Show me one poll that shows a majority of respondents favoring the war.




Why? You said this:

Quote:

You're forgetting that everyone hates the war.




I can assume you understand the reason why I highlighted the word above.


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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7638383 - 11/15/07 05:20 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It was an exaggeration, but not far off. I haven't seen one poll which showed a majority of favorable opinion about the war.


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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: Redstorm]
    #7638654 - 11/15/07 09:00 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Which is drastically different from "everybody" isn't it.  Funny about those polls, isn't it?  People go on the information they are given.  The Iraq war has almost been driven completely off the front page of the NYTimes.  Must be going well, because you know if it wasn't they would be all over it.:cool:


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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7638817 - 11/15/07 09:48 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
The Iraq war has almost been driven completely off the front page of the NYTimes.  Must be going well, because you know if it wasn't they would be all over it.:cool:




The media has two choices on Iraq at the moment:

Report good news or
Don't talk about Iraq at all.....


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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7638830 - 11/15/07 09:56 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Fuck polloganda. Show me a poll that reflects a properly diversified group of people as data.


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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: Crasher]
    #7639062 - 11/15/07 10:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hasn't there actually been a pretty big dip in violence in Iraq lately?

I'm not in favor of the war and I guess I consider myself a pretty liberal person.. but even I admit that the media tends to ignore the good and only reports the bad.


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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: BrAiN]
    #7639163 - 11/15/07 11:07 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

not entirely, CNN had an article on the front page yesterday about the
sinking american death tolls.

I'm not sure what other measures of success they can report.

have there been major infrastructural improvements in iraq that haven't
been reported?


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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: afoaf]
    #7639172 - 11/15/07 11:08 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

(shrugs)


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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: BrAiN]
    #7639388 - 11/15/07 11:46 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

> Hasn't there actually been a pretty big dip in violence in Iraq lately?

Short term trends mean littler. This year, so far, has had more US troop deaths than any other year in Iraq.


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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: Seuss]
    #7639400 - 11/15/07 11:48 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I'm talking more of the overall deaths.... not just U.S. soldiers but everyone.. civilians mostly. It just seems like the past few months has seen less bombings in pulic places..

at least ... i havent' seen them reported much


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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: BrAiN]
    #7639888 - 11/15/07 01:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Seuss is correct about the whole year but the results of the surge, which has only been in effect for half of the year, have been impressive. Bombings in Baghdad overall and civilian murders are way down and life is getting back to normal.


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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7639932 - 11/15/07 02:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Again.. not I'm for the war but..

Iraq may end up being a semi-normal state within the next couple of years... who knows.

Lebanon was a mess in the early 80's and ended up having a descent amount of stability for 20 years until Hariri(sp?) got blown to pieces... shit and Lebanon is STILL the only place in the mid east i'd probably ever wanting to visit.

It would be interesting if Iraq decided to finally settle down a bit JUST in time for the next election.


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Re: CNN warned to be gentle [Re: BrAiN]
    #7644622 - 11/16/07 03:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

looks like CNN/Wolf got the message...


CNN screened and gave out questions at the debate

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/11/diamond_v_pearl_student_blasts_1.php

"Diamond v. Pearl" Student Blasts CNN (Updated With CNN Response)
16 Nov 2007 11:21 am

Maria Luisa, the UNLV student who asked Hillary Clinton whether she preferred "diamonds or pearls" at last night's debate wrote on her MySpace page this morning that CNN forced her to ask the frilly question instead of a pre-approved query about the Yucca Mountain nuclear waste repository.


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