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Hotnuts
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Re: mould stimulating fruiting of eryngii [Re: YidakiMan]
#7843218 - 01/07/08 11:35 AM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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No.
Oh Yidakiman, you sell eryngii don't you?
Edited by Hotnuts (01/07/08 11:36 AM)
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YidakiMan
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Re: mould stimulating fruiting of eryngii [Re: Hotnuts]
#7843393 - 01/07/08 12:41 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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Been trying to get set up, not quite there yet.
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Hotnuts
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Re: mould stimulating fruiting of eryngii [Re: YidakiMan]
#7843436 - 01/07/08 12:57 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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You should look into composting. Compost or horse manure makes excellent and efficient substrate for the cultivation of the Pleurotus genus. Excellent and cheap.
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rungi
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Re: mould stimulating fruiting of eryngii [Re: Hotnuts]
#7844740 - 01/07/08 05:41 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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Hotnuts What substrate are you using for the mushrooms in the photo. Have you compared the taste of wood vs. manure substrates If there as good, it seems that the US commercial agaricus bisporus industry must be oblivious to it among other things. I think Eryngii mushroom are easy to market and sell,than digest shhh. They make the structure known as the word P.ostreatus seem truly inferior in both taste textue and shelf life. If one human compares flavor, texture, and shelf life than they would likely come to the same conclusion. Bugs must be excluded because they use a difficult language to translate which seems to be full of great gibberish One good reason for the bottles is contamination is easy to isolate. However, if these trays you speak of work well, Well than, I can see no bad nor good reasons to use bottles. Few, will grow cubensis in jars anymore since empirical observations of better methods have become realized and now manifested into a least one cubensis cultivation reality of recycled Peace and positivism
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Hotnuts
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Re: mould stimulating fruiting of eryngii [Re: rungi]
#7847004 - 01/08/08 07:31 AM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Those are growing from compost. I haven't grown them on wood so I can't compare the tastes. I'd think they'd be the same. I know the compost grown ones taste fantastic.
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Re: mould stimulating fruiting of eryngii [Re: Hotnuts]
#7847232 - 01/08/08 09:59 AM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Did you spawn the compost with grain spawn? How many flushes did you get from that tray? Did it contaminate? Are you still growing eryngii? Did you make the compost? Did you cover the compost substrate once inoculated and are there breathing holes anywhere on the plastic container in which you are growing these. Sorry to ask so many questions unrelated to the thread.
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Re: mould stimulating fruiting of eryngii [Re: rungi]
#7847287 - 01/08/08 10:24 AM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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They were inoculated with wbs spawn. I usually get around 4-6 flushes out of these, which is perfect for us. We do 2 at a time so we have mushrooms to eat in dinners. I don't use any filters in these containers, as they have lids that snap shut on the tops that aren't air tight. So they breath fine. I do make my own compost as well. Pasteurized for 1.5 hours @ 140 degrees. Next plan as far as bulking up with Pleurotus is to use 1 part compost to around 6 parts wheat straw. Maybe more straw. Don't know yet.
Here's Pleurotus ostreatus in the same containers.
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Edited by Hotnuts (01/08/08 10:26 AM)
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YidakiMan
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Re: mould stimulating fruiting of eryngii [Re: Hotnuts]
#7847339 - 01/08/08 10:44 AM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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So once you take the lid off, there isn't a plastic covering the substrate? One more question, do you incubate these in a humid environment?
One of the problems I've run into, is that if I wish to use pasteurized trays, I need a 2nd humidified, temperature controlled environment for incubation. Since I don't have a 2nd humidified enclosure it has forced me to use bags, which has forced me to start shopping for a 2nd and third pressure cooker.
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Re: mould stimulating fruiting of eryngii [Re: YidakiMan]
#7847460 - 01/08/08 11:20 AM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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There's the lid that has a small lid on it that opens so you can pull out wipes one at a time. I can't believe i'm talking about baby wipe containers. Hehehe. I personally would never use these containers on a commercial scale. I'd go much larger. These just work great for a personal scale.
I've never incubated self contained substrates in a humid environment. The containers themselves provide that. When using larger containers like 30qt. or even larger ones like 30-50 gallon ones, I put down sheets of foil right on top of the substrate to block light and to prevent condensation from getting on the lids and dripping onto the substrate. Just loose fitting to the sides of the bins. Then I put the lids of the bins on loose so CO2 can expel.
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Re: mould stimulating fruiting of eryngii [Re: Hotnuts]
#7848291 - 01/08/08 02:36 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Do you have anymore eryngii photos showing pinning or anything else for that matter? Did you mix or sandwich the grain spawn in the compost?
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Hotnuts
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Re: mould stimulating fruiting of eryngii [Re: rungi]
#7849088 - 01/08/08 05:06 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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No, not really. Nothing you've never seen before anyways.
I do like to layer my spawn in the compost. I layer it in the center. Sandwich style.
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