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Yoschie99
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Re: Spiritual experience on Mushrooms? Please take part in this study [Re: Mastamike1118]
#7646982 - 11/17/07 08:28 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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reading.. dream sequences.. trips like this one...
you want specifics?? this wouldn't be the thread to get into it in...
feel free to PM me or start a thread elsewhere for open line of communication.

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MyInnerChild
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Re: Spiritual experience on Mushrooms? Please take part in this study [Re: Mastamike1118]
#7649286 - 11/17/07 10:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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1st you have to find Shroomerites who connect their spiritual experiences to something beyond the colourful roller-coaster in their brains.
Next you have to try to lend credence to anyone saying any experience is "spiritual" and good luck defining that.
Lastly, I'd say that any study that didn't document the info face-to-face (w/names are withheld by the interviewer) would never be taken seriously in the academic world. This is b/c the mental health and credibility of anonymous responders can be and is doubted on this site every day.
We shoot the bull all the time...male bravado is a big factor here as well. You'll also get a lot of redundancy as the experience is similar under the influence and all you gotta do really is read trip reports for that info.
If you advertised on a local electronic bulletin board (or even on a real campus one.. hee hee) you'd probably get live responders. Someone admitting they "did" mushrooms in the past can't be arrested for it and I doubt they'd waste police manpower following responders around to see if they do more.
Cultivators on the others hand...beware man, oh yeah.
Good luck with your study however it comes to be...
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Re: Spiritual experience on Mushrooms? Please take part in this study [Re: MyInnerChild]
#7649338 - 11/17/07 10:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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One time I was tripping really hard, I re-dosed, turned off my lights, and around an hour felt like breathing wasn't important. I was with the Godhead, lying down on my bed. Bliss, really.
At some point around 5 am, I came to hearing my bitch breaking glass containers in the kitchen because she'd been searching for "All Spice". I mean--the kitchen floor was like that movie in "Die Hard" where he doesn't have any shoes but he has to walk all over the broken glass anyway. That was awesome. Anyway, I told her the All Spice is kept on the lazy Susan because it's retarded to keep All Spice on your spice rack because it's right in front but you've got to be gay to use it enought to validiate that position.
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Re: Spiritual experience on Mushrooms? Please take part in this study [Re: GnuBobo]
#7650381 - 11/18/07 09:40 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i think that will really help his study GnuBobo, i'm sure he will put that all spice bit right in the first few paragraphs
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Re: Spiritual experience on Mushrooms? Please take part in this study [Re: sleepy]
#7650384 - 11/18/07 09:41 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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but to the OP, take mushrooms and you will have plenty to write about, or more likely you will see its pointless to write about whats indescribable. mushrooms can take you to god, but you can't talk about it once you come down. you gotta see it for yourself.
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Re: Spiritual experience on Mushrooms? Please take part in this study [Re: sleepy]
#7650386 - 11/18/07 09:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think a outside view on the matter (at least officially) is more adequate than presenting his own experience.
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Re: Spiritual experience on Mushrooms? Please take part in this study [Re: thestaypail]
#7650398 - 11/18/07 09:47 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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thestaypail said: Hello everyone, I am a Masters student studying at Middlesex University in London, England. For my dissertation I am distributing a questionnaire to anyone who believes they have had a spiritual experience on psychedelic mushrooms.
Some of you amy already know, but there have been two major experiments that have proven in particular situations psychedelic mushrooms can occasion a mystical experience similar to those reported by saints and mystics. One is most well known as “the Good Friday Experiment” by Walter Pahnke and the other was titled “Psilocybin can occasion mystical-type experiences having substantial and sustained personal meaning and spiritual significance” by Roland Griffiths.
It is fairly well known that the mind-set of the user and the environmental setting of the trip are two of the biggest factors in shaping a drug experience. The use of psychedelics in religious ritual settings such as peyote in the Native America Church and the use of ayahuasca by Uniao do Vegetal creates religious type experiences. However, not very much is known about the set and setting being utilized by regular people to achieve spiritual experiences on psychedelics.
This questionnaire will mainly ask about your mind-set going into the experience and the setting of the experience. I want to see if I can find any similarities of set and setting amongst those who have had a spiritual experience on shrooms. Since spiritual experiences of this nature are usually positive knowing such information would be beneficial in terms of harm reduction because it may help reduce the chances of having a bad trip.
I assure that anyone who chooses to take part in this study will remain anonymous. Your names and the name of this website will not be included in the paper. When I have finished the research anyone who wants a copy of the results may receive one. Also, if you decide to participate but then change your mind you may withdraw from this study at any time.
If you have had what you consider to be a spiritual experience on shrooms and are able to take part in this study or you have any questions please either respond to this message, pm me, or email me at wzvickery@gmail.com. I will then send you a copy of the questionnaire which you may complete at any time. There are about 20-30 open ended questions and it should take about 30 minutes to complete. When you are finished with the questionnaire you may email it to me at the above address. Please try to return the questionnaire within about three weeks.
Thanks for reading and thanks in advance to anyone who is willing to participate.
Sincerely,
William
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MarkostheGnostic
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Re: Spiritual experience on Mushrooms? Please take part in this study [Re: thestaypail]
#7650518 - 11/18/07 10:49 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sorry for the harshness, and thanks for your cooperation. I live like a 1st century Roman Christian in the catacombs of The Shroomery. I might wear a Shroomery t-shirt on the weekend, but at work I'm an exemplary substance abuse counselor who makes a strong argument for adolescents to leave sunstances (including psychedelics) alone...at least until they are minimally 18 years old and have sufficient maturity. I never advocate, I just get real with them. Later is better for them, never is unrealistic.
I've used psychedelics (Entheogens, Empathogens) for 30+ years, in diminishing frequency because there are diminishing expectations and clearly diminished returns (the most profound experiences have occurred in the past, but left the 'portal' open so that the Eternal informs me in the Present). I do not need them any more and continued use, other than in showing a newbe, just seems self-indulgent to me now.
Each 'occasion' manifests aspects of experience that have become established in various religious systems as doctrines. It is like identifying the colored threads in a colorful and complex tapestry: the 'getting off' or 'blowing up' stages manifest Kundalini arousal and Zen Kensho when taking Entheogens and Empathogens, respectively. High dose Entheogens can elicit moving visions of 'Pearly Gates' against the daylight sky or with eyes closed, the kaleidoscopic visions far exceed the most exquisite cathedral rose window in color and vibrancy and surpass in detail the most intricate of Tibetan Buddhist sand mandalas. The Samadhis have been available to me and I am convinced of a onetime experience of Asamprajnata Samadhi.
Ultimately, the Reality of "The Eternal Now," to quote theologian Paul Tillich's book title, the same focus of the book BE HERE NOW in the 1970s and of The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle in the 1990s has been the single-most important revelation of Ultimate Truth through the agency of a class of neurotransmitter-tuning substances. The brain, like a radio transmitter, can be tuned to Hyper High Frequencies allowing the 'carrier wave' of Consciousness itself to be brought to Consciousness, so-to-speak. In the words of yogi Hari Das Baba: "First there is a point. The point becomes sound. The sound becomes light."
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Re: Spiritual experience on Mushrooms? Please take part in this study [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#7650768 - 11/18/07 12:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well said, Markos. 
I've never heard the term 'Empathogen'. Reading that word, I immediately thought MDMA, but then you connected it with the experience of Kensho, which is something I would associate with LSD if at all with any psychedelic compound. What is an empathogen?
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Re: Spiritual experience on Mushrooms? Please take part in this study [Re: sleepy]
#7650822 - 11/18/07 12:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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sleepy said: i think that will really help his study GnuBobo, i'm sure he will put that all spice bit right in the first few paragraphs
Shut the fuck up
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Re: Spiritual experience on Mushrooms? Please take part in this study [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7650914 - 11/18/07 12:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Chill my friends and ...keep yer spices wherever you like...k?
As long as the best spices are kept away from the children...till they're like, 17-18 or so.
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Re: Spiritual experience on Mushrooms? Please take part in this study [Re: Mastamike1118]
#7651215 - 11/18/07 02:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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It is just an email, for all he knows someone could be lying and making up the whole thing. I doubt there is any risk behind it.
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Psilocin Dreams
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Re: Spiritual experience on Mushrooms? Please take part in this study [Re: MindGorilla]
#7654121 - 11/19/07 10:19 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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shit, nvm
Edited by Psilocin Dreams (11/19/07 10:20 AM)
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Re: Spiritual experience on Mushrooms? Please take part in this study [Re: Yoschie99]
#7657458 - 11/20/07 01:07 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yoschie99 said: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5241511/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1
that's as spiritual as i think it'll ever get for me.
yos-
i wont be eating a half ounce of dried shrooms EVER.
but, one question,
u where saying, that people where with you during your trip. WHAT THEY SAY u where doin while u was going thru time in ur mind?
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Re: Spiritual experience on Mushrooms? Please take part in this study [Re: sleepy]
#7657467 - 11/20/07 01:11 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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sleepy said: but to the OP, take mushrooms and you will have plenty to write about, or more likely you will see its pointless to write about whats indescribable. mushrooms can take you to god, but you can't talk about it once you come down. you gotta see it for yourself.
you know, thats true, about not being able to explain it, i had a good good trip, but i kind of scared myself because my mind was going crazy. the first time, i went crazy literally in my mind, i thought i was going to be stuck like that forever and i insisted that the people in a mental house was the result of being on mushrooms and not being able to get out, it was VERY bad,
but the 2nd time was great because i understood it more and i was in a better environment.
the first time i was in a big room with all black walls and black and white floor. not good.
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Re: Spiritual experience on Mushrooms? Please take part in this study [Re: sleepy]
#7657672 - 11/20/07 03:04 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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sleepy said: i think that will really help his study GnuBobo, i'm sure he will put that all spice bit right in the first few paragraphs
Shut your fucking hippie goddamn mouth. I think the original poster should take around a dried ounce of shroom tea, and right before he's coming up on them, smoke a couple hits of DMT.
What kind of gayness is this? Mushrooms and spirituality. That's fag central, primo.
Go finger-fuck your gf and make her come a few times and she may mention dopamine saturation.
Original poster--if you are in any way serious about your stated "thesis", you're going to have to go undercover for any credible first-hand evidence.
You're pretty fat and have a ponytail and goatee? Smoke cloves?
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Re: Spiritual experience on Mushrooms? Please take part in this study [Re: GnuBobo]
#7657814 - 11/20/07 04:57 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Would Uncle Jerry generalize like that man? y'know...summerize another human being up in pixles? Woah... lol
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Re: Spiritual experience on Mushrooms? Please take part in this study [Re: MyInnerChild]
#7657821 - 11/20/07 05:04 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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He just wants to feel self-important, like everyone else. Not getting enough attention is crippling.
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Re: Spiritual experience on Mushrooms? Please take part in this study [Re: fireworks_god]
#7658947 - 11/20/07 12:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'll give you some magical realism attention, sloppy_anus_god.
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Re: Spiritual experience on Mushrooms? Please take part in this study [Re: GnuBobo]
#7659081 - 11/20/07 01:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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spiritual experiences 
when im tripping on high doses of mushrooms, trying to figure out if i need a shit or a haircut is as close to spirituality as i got...
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