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starting a juice fast. need pointers.
#7641242 - 11/15/07 06:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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my girlfriend wants to get rid of some excess body fat, and I've been wanting to try out fasting after i read up on it. So we agreed we are going to fast together.
It's going to be until the day before thanksgiving, because this is my first fast, and I don't want anything too long for this time around. Maybe in the future.
I've gone a day and a half without food at the longest before, and I am a food addict more or less. I can't stop eating. I have a very good metabolism, otherwise i would be extremely fat.
I don't really want too many people to know, because i don't want them to feel like I'm saying I'm better than them, and I also don't want the negative reaction that i know I'm going to get if i tell people. So i'm keeping it on the down low. Plus it's a personal thing, so I don't really have a reason to tell other people about it.
So a 5.5 day fast for my first time. enough time to get past the first few days of pain, and the get onto the actual cleansing. Then, a feast the day after I'm done. I guess it's so I enjoy thanksgiving more, as well as a spiritual/mental/physical challenge for me to overcome.
My concerns are: -That i might lose too much fat -That my body won't be ready to eat food come thanksgiving day -That I won't be able to function well
My hopes are: -I will learn more about myself -I will obtain more self control -I will learn discipline -Some cleansing
Any tips for my first fast would be greatly appreciated. Hopefully tomorrow morning i don't forget and eat something. (I am very forgetful)
I've heard yoga and meditation are an awesome way to get through fasts, and to help ease the pain or the hunger.
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Re: starting a juice fast. need pointers. [Re: Drewwyann]
#7641300 - 11/15/07 07:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey there - nice work, it'll be very good for you to do a juice fast. Just a few things to remember:
Keep normal eating regimes - just replace meals with, say, half a quart of juice/s. Keeping your eating regime will also mean you will only have minimal, if any, problems when you have a solid-food meal again. If you do not eat or drink anything of nutritional value, you will have a bit of a problem since your stomach lining will have shrunk and will take time to recover - eating a lot will make you sick.
Drink a lot of water during the day - this will have the effect of decreasing hunger and satisfying bodily needs for thirst when fat breakdown is occuring.
Try to be active during the day, dont just sit around - this will mean that you do not lose muscle mass, just fat. Remember, if you don't use it you'll lose it. Also being active will take your mind of hunger.
Thats about it from my end of the court...just one more thing: limit apple juice intake on any one day to 1 quart, as you will probably get the runs if you dont, especially if you drink more than a quart of it in one sitting.
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Re: starting a juice fast. need pointers. [Re: Drewwyann]
#7641378 - 11/15/07 07:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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- You generally don't want to mix fruit and vegetable drinks in the same general time period/meal - Use citrusy fruits on their own (IE, if you drink orange/lemon/grapefruit juice, don't down some carrot juice with it) - Generally I would advise you give yourself at least 3-4 days to readjust to normal food after a juice fast. Coming off your fast, start off with lighter, easier to digest foods and slowly work your way to richer, more heartier foods. You definitely DO NOT want to come straight out of a fast and into thanksgiving where you will probably be stuffing yourself full of all sort of different things. Give your body time to readjust.
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Re: starting a juice fast. need pointers. [Re: Shroomism]
#7641439 - 11/15/07 07:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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hmm... So make the fast shorter is what you're saying? but then the first three days will be over, and then I'll have to start eating again for thanksgiving.
Believe me, my extended family on my dad's side (which is the one's I'm eating thanksgiving with) would NEVER understand me fasting. They would see it as stupid, alien, dangerous, and weird. Maybe i should start after thanksgiving? Because i don't want to get passed the first three days of hunger just to start eating again. I want to feel my body using itself for energy.
Hmmm...
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Re: starting a juice fast. need pointers. [Re: Drewwyann]
#7641486 - 11/15/07 07:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Drewwyann said: Maybe i should start after thanksgiving? Hmmm...
Definitely a good idea.
Fasting to lose weight may not be wise. Healthy eating and exercise would be a better option for your girlfriend imo.
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Re: starting a juice fast. need pointers. [Re: Drewwyann]
#7641492 - 11/15/07 07:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah based on what you've said I think you should start after Thanksgiving. You'll have much less fast anxiety that way and you won't be around any relatives.
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Re: starting a juice fast. need pointers. [Re: Drewwyann]
#7641511 - 11/15/07 07:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I would start your fast after thanksgiving. Give it at least 3 days, up to a week. Don't extend your fast beyond a week.
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Re: starting a juice fast. need pointers. [Re: Bikerfool]
#7641518 - 11/15/07 07:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Although a little long and intense compared to the idea of a juice fast, I've heard a lot of good things about the "lemonade fast", where you drink a mixture of lemon juice, water, and a little bit of maple syrup and cayenne pepper for 7+ days. There are dozens of resources about this online, here is one of them. http://www.ehow.com/how_12683_lemonade-fast.html
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Re: starting a juice fast. need pointers. [Re: Drewwyann]
#7641533 - 11/15/07 07:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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make sure you eat plenty of steak while fasting, meat is good for energy.
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Re: starting a juice fast. need pointers. [Re: aDoS]
#7641598 - 11/15/07 08:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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All this fasting talk is making me more hungry! I hate going without food, I would change my diet to eat healthier, but I wouldn't go on a fast, well not anytime soon.
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Re: starting a juice fast. need pointers. [Re: Skunk420]
#7641628 - 11/15/07 08:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fasting is a bad way to lose bodyfat. Don't expect good results.
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Re: starting a juice fast. need pointers. [Re: PyroBurns]
#7641745 - 11/15/07 08:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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It isn't to lose body fat for me. That's what my girlfriend is using it for. I am making her eat healthy, and pressing her to do it without fasting on a normal basis.
We decided to support each other in the fast we are going into.
I guess after thanksgiving is when it'll be then. I'm aiming for 6 days, give or take one. Based on that, I'll fast longer the next time. Or maybe a different type of fasting. I'll see.
I forgot to mention, I've already taken meat out of my diet. I've been vegetarian since June 2007. If that makes any difference that is...
But my girlfriend isn't just using it for weight-loss. (at least i hope so). It's a bonding thing for us. When we go through something together, it's just another thing that strengthens our relationship.
But fasting uses body fatfor energy. So why would it not be a good option if some one were to want to lose fat? Obviously if that is the only reason you are fasting, it might short-change the spiritual reasons, and use it for more shallow reasons, but I don't think the reason you are fasting would affect it being healthy or not. (physically i mean)
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Re: starting a juice fast. need pointers. [Re: Drewwyann]
#7641753 - 11/15/07 08:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Right;)
well if youre only drinking juice and stuff, i say you drink some apple cider vinegar. its a bad taste but good for the body
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Re: starting a juice fast. need pointers. [Re: thoughts]
#7641779 - 11/15/07 08:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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apple cider vinegar is nasty...
I'll give it a try though. Just cause i like to put myself through hell though.
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Re: starting a juice fast. need pointers. [Re: Drewwyann]
#7641796 - 11/15/07 08:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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It helps you lose weight by uhh..kind of breakign down sugar and fat molecules/cells and i guess getting rid of them faster before they become harmful.
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Re: starting a juice fast. need pointers. [Re: Drewwyann]
#7641915 - 11/15/07 09:17 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I say go for water fasting for immediate detox of bodily tissues. A water fast is a true fast; your stomach shuts itself down, whereas for juice your stomach is still digesting sugers. I find water fasting easier then juice fasting personally, although I started with juice fasting back in July. It's a good way to train yourself to detach from your senses and fleshly experiences. You definitely start to feel cleaner, with greater focus and energy then you thought possible. If you start to feel cravings during your fast, redirect your attention to raw fruits, nuts or healthy stuff that you'd like to train yourself to eat when your fast is over. Don't focus too deeply on it; direct your energy upwards. I like to focus on my third eye or just focus on breathing. I don't drink much water; I don't find it necessary. I only drink as much as I need, perhaps a pint or or two a day, and I function normally. I may drink more at other times; it just depends on what I need based on my activity level.
Anyway, I'd just like to encourage you. A juice fast is a good idea if you are new to fasting...that's how I started. Eventually you may find that even juice is too heavy for you during a fast, and switch to water. But until that time, enjoy your fresh, raw juices. Drink deep and well...fasting is truly natures cure. I am a believer in it because I have experienced the benefits of cleansing in this way. Good luck.
By the way, here's some excellant information on fasting for anyone who is interested: http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020127shelton.III/020127.toc.htm
Oh yeah...after thanksgiving. I am breaking my water fast a few days before and switching to juices so that hopefully I will be ready for fresh fruits and vegetables by Thanksgiving weekend.
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Re: starting a juice fast. need pointers. [Re: MOTH]
#7641979 - 11/15/07 09:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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By the way...totally don't tell people that you're fasting. They may shove their own fear onto your experience, and you don't need that. Like, I'm feeling weird about saying that I'm fasting right now in this thread. A fast, in my opinion, is only between you and your spirit, or GOD, or whatever source of power you hold within yourself. It's an incredibly personal experience. 
Anyway, safe journey.
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Re: starting a juice fast. need pointers. [Re: Drewwyann]
#7643110 - 11/16/07 06:49 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Drewwyann said: But fasting uses body fatfor energy. So why would it not be a good option if some one were to want to lose fat? Obviously if that is the only reason you are fasting, it might short-change the spiritual reasons, and use it for more shallow reasons, but I don't think the reason you are fasting would affect it being healthy or not. (physically i mean)
Wrong. You are using glucose. Whenever you drink that juice you are getting lots and lots of sugars. So your body uses those up, then when that's gone it begins converting muscle into glucose and uses that.
Very little if any bodyfat is utilized. Especially because you constantly aren't letting yourself into ketosis (fat burning state) by supplying yourself with sugars, and because you are constantly spiking insulin which negates fatty acid breakdown.
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Re: starting a juice fast. need pointers. [Re: PyroBurns]
#7643187 - 11/16/07 07:43 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cranberry juice == very cleansing
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