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I.V. injection of LSD
    #7639077 - 11/15/07 10:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

So these days if you find any it is very very expensive, far too much for a full on psychedelic experience anyways. So I am going try iv administration. Since it is a very water soluable compound I was thinking that just letting it soak in a cc or so of water in a cool dark place for a good while would do the trick. Any thoughts or suggestions?


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7639121 - 11/15/07 11:00 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Since it is absorbed through the lining of the mouth, I wouldn't bother.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: badchad]
    #7639133 - 11/15/07 11:01 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like finding a new source would go farther


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7639136 - 11/15/07 11:01 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Even if you use sterile saline solution in a sterile container with clean needles, you don't know WHAT the drug actually is, if it's even real LSD nor do you know how clean it is, nor do you know what germs are on the blotter that will go through the IV. Even if you managed to do it sterile, you risk contaminating your saline during the soak and shooting yourself up with bacterialized LSD\DOM saline. Gross!

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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: badchad]
    #7639137 - 11/15/07 11:02 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Acid isn't really hard to find or that expensive..... i'm very interested in what the IV experience would be like; onset time, duration, intensity. if anyone on here has tried it i'd love to hear about it. Crystal G maybe? lol


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: opensaysme]
    #7639199 - 11/15/07 11:13 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

IV LSD doesn't make the experience any more intense. I've talked to several people who have tried it. When you take acid you have to wait for an hour or so for the come up to start. IV basically skips that hour wait and you start to come up immediately. Other than that, theres no benefit.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7639216 - 11/15/07 11:16 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Really? Only in the lining of your mouth? Tell that to the guy who shot 320mg thinking it was speed and croaked. Look I am not trying to have a good time with my friends. I am not trying to get "fucked up". If you have a problem with needles keep it to yourself. I understand that what I am suggesting is shooting what is essentially a street drug. I am okay with that. I am not looking for a bunch of kids who don't understand where I am coming from to tell me that they don't think that this is a good idea. I came here looking for real information about something that I am going to attempt. Look Siberian shaman can get over themselves enough to drink urine for a sacred experience. I've done this. Native people in the amazon will have huge amounts of powdered organic material blow-gunned into their nose for the same. I have also done this about a dozen times. All I am saying is that a pin prick ain't shit. I have a sterile 3cc iv rig and a hit and a half of some strong clean blotter. I am going to go all the way. I am also looking for any helpful tips or info.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: Ness1]
    #7639232 - 11/15/07 11:19 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Do you think that maybe they just didn't give enough time for the LSD to transfer into solution and that the incomplete dosing coupled with the iv administration made it seem like they were dosing at the same level?


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7639240 - 11/15/07 11:20 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Why shoot it up, I enjoyed the "slow" come up of lsd... was pretty cool to have it creep up :smile:


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: andrewss]
    #7639245 - 11/15/07 11:21 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It isn't about the onset.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7639258 - 11/15/07 11:23 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

ive heard different things about i.v. lsd.... some say little difference in onset others say quick peak that you would expect. ive also heard snorting microdots doesnt make it hit much quicker.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7639262 - 11/15/07 11:23 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

so you already have a hit and a half of strong clean blotter, so it doesnt really seem to have anything to do with you not having enough, you just have a jonesin to shoot up LSD.. youll get a better experience just eatin the blotter, imo, let us know how it goes


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: 2859558484]
    #7639264 - 11/15/07 11:24 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I've never even seen a microdot in person. Do people still get these in the US?


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7639269 - 11/15/07 11:24 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Like I said, I've talked to several people. Same story from all of them, quicker onset and that's it.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: opensaysme]
    #7639274 - 11/15/07 11:25 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

microdots will awlays be around man.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: 2859558484]
    #7639300 - 11/15/07 11:30 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Well i realize that they can always be made, what i'm saying is it must only run in really specific circles. I've been to a lot of shows and a couple festivals and i have never even seen one, i also have friends that are big into the acid scene and they've never seen one. Bought from many different sources and seen liquid, gels, and blotter but no one i've even gotten from has even seen/used a microdot. An older guy i know who used to be big into psychedelics back in the day talks about how he used to get great microdots, thats all i've even heard.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: boomer q]
    #7639316 - 11/15/07 11:34 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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so you already have a hit and a half of strong clean blotter, so it doesnt really seem to have anything to do with you not having enough, you just have a jonesin to shoot up LSD.. youll get a better experience just eatin the blotter, imo, let us know how it goes




Okay look kid I have what is about 150 MAYBE 200 micrograms of acid. THAT IS NOT A PSYCHEDELIC DOSE. The best experience I've ever had was with about 3mg of silver liquid. That would be 3,000 micrograms. Do you see the difference? Anything under 500 mics is a waste of time I can not afford that at $8-10 a hit with no price break. So far all I've gotten is second hand hear-say. I'd really like to get a response from some one with first hand info. Also microdots aren't inherently anything special. I've had some that were better than some blotter or liquid. It varies though batch to batch with any of it. Form doesn't always define function.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7639334 - 11/15/07 11:37 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

wtf "Anything under 500 mics is a waste of time" get a fucking life


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: opensaysme]
    #7639338 - 11/15/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

In one of the only documented, scientific, and published reports of IV LSD administration, peak effecs occurred about 30 min after administration.

Other than that, open a pharmacology textbook, and read the section on "routes of administration". A substance can be absorbed across the lining of the mouth in minutes (think of chewing tobacco). An IV push enters the bloodstream in seconds. So the difference of introducing a substance into the blood would be on the order of minutes, and not significant.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: 2859558484]
    #7639343 - 11/15/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Are you really going to flame me because I feel like it is more worthwhile to dose higher than you do? Take your own advise.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: 2859558484]
    #7639346 - 11/15/07 11:39 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I highly doubt if acid is so tough to find for you, meaning you don't do it often, that 500ug would be a waste of time lol. I would like to see you eat 500 mics and then tell me its not doing anything for you hahaha.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: opensaysme]
    #7639359 - 11/15/07 11:41 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

sorry for the flame, that was harsh. but i disagree with you! 3-400 micrograms is intense as hell for me man. and most other people on this planet.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7639364 - 11/15/07 11:41 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I've had a good time on 200mic. not earth shattering but it made for a great bonding experiance with my friends


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7639366 - 11/15/07 11:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

well, for most of the world 200 ug is a decent dose, not too many folks are looking for a 3000 ug dose, and ive never heard of anyone saying that anything under 500 ug is a waste of time, so why dont you just slow your fuckin role you little bitch, just cause you have different standards than the rest of the world on what a good dose is doesnt mean you can get snippy with me, have fun wasting your time sticking a needle in your arm for nothin


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: ThePeruvianTorch]
    #7639368 - 11/15/07 11:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Dude, the saturation point with LSD is between 500 and 1,000 mics. 3,000 mics is a waste.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: 2859558484]
    #7639372 - 11/15/07 11:43 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If you honestly need to dose that heavily, then just go mushroom picking and eat all the good ones you find until you can no longer even see the mushrooms past all the visuals exploding in front of your eyes, ya cunt


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: Ness1]
    #7639380 - 11/15/07 11:44 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Dude, the saturation point with LSD is between 500 and 1,000 mics. 3,000 mics is a waste.




I see you visit Erowid as well ha.
This figure is somewhat bullshit because anyone who has done large doses will tell you that the intensity DOES increase after 1000mics, but at a much slower clip. The duration of the trip will also increase vastly.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: 2859558484]
    #7639382 - 11/15/07 11:45 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I believe that you've eaten 3 mg of liquid, but I do not believe that it was even close to pure LSD. 150-200mcg IS a psychedelic dose. It may not be as strong as most people like, but that's why we eat more than one hit most of the time. The doses that Owsley made in San Francisco in the mid 1960's were exactly 250mcg, and they are legendary.

If you only like to take huge doses of acid, and don't have a reliable source, or money for that many doses, then I feel sorry for you.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: opensaysme]
    #7639395 - 11/15/07 11:47 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Dude, the saturation point with LSD is between 500 and 1,000 mics. 3,000 mics is a waste.




I see you visit Erowid as well ha.
This figure is somewhat bullshit because anyone who has done large doses will tell you that the intensity DOES increase after 1000mics, but at a much slower clip. The duration of the trip will also increase vastly.




That figure is also derived from talking to lots of people. Many experienced psychonauts I've talked to has said that the difference between 1mg and 2mg is essentially negligible. There IS a difference, but hardly enough to warrant wasting a milligram of LSD.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: Jeebies]
    #7639401 - 11/15/07 11:48 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I.M is better :laugh:

Fuck that though..

I.V DMT or psilocybin would blatantly be better :grin:


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: badchad]
    #7639404 - 11/15/07 11:49 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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In one of the only documented, scientific, and published reports of IV LSD administration, peak effecs occurred about 30 min after administration.

Other than that, open a pharmacology textbook, and read the section on "routes of administration". A substance can be absorbed across the lining of the mouth in minutes (think of chewing tobacco). An IV push enters the bloodstream in seconds. So the difference of introducing a substance into the blood would be on the order of minutes, and not significant.




I am vary familiar with sublingual administration. I think that there is room for some to be lost or maybe absorbed in the g.i. tract. Not that the small loss wouldn't happen in the process of getting it into the rig and injecting it. Look I'm not trying to argue with anyone I am just trying to see if I can get some sort of first hand account. So please do not post if your input doesn't fit this criteria as it has no relevance. I really don't understand why I am getting so much resistance in wanting to try something different. I'm not asking for dosage info of a tropane. I didn't come in and say "can I get fucked up on acid by slamming it" or some stupid shit like that. Back in the day injecting mescaline or DMT wasn't seen as being wrong. I think that this might be worthwhile. If you don't agree with me that is great but keep it to yourself unless you have first-hand solid evidence to back it up. Thanks


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7639422 - 11/15/07 11:54 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7639424 - 11/15/07 11:55 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

don't do it dude......just eat he freakin things. :goodluck:


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7639429 - 11/15/07 11:56 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

im guessing it you would start to feel it very quickly but still have the same 30 min long comeup to the peak/platuea.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7639432 - 11/15/07 11:56 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Man, with all due respect, I think that a lot of these people were trying to help. I don't think I need first hand experience to know that a lot of the acid floating around the black market is bad. Not to mention the bacteria that will be present on the blotter and in the syringe, which could potentially cause serious harm to you.

Also, in the sixties and early seventies, injecting acid was common, but only because almost pharm. grade LSD was in circulation. Some of it was CIA acid, and some was Sandoz. Besides those two major players, a lot of smaller players were also manufacturing pure LSD that could be injected.

I'm just saying, if you don't know the guy that manufactured the LSD, then you're taking a huge risk that doesn't come close to justifying
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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: Jeebies]
    #7639453 - 11/15/07 12:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

^I think the OP is just angry/disappointed that 200ug LSD IV isn't going to be 3,000ug sublingual and is looking for some sort of validation to try this.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: Jeebies]
    #7639474 - 11/15/07 12:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yea, i was just givin him an opinion and i get called a kid cause i think that having a 2-500 mic acid trip is fun, what a douche

if all you have is 200 mics its not gonna do too much even IV if you think that even double that dose is a complete waste of time...i dont understand what your trying to get out of this


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: Jeebies]
    #7639475 - 11/15/07 12:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I understand where you are coming from, but at the same time please understand that what I am talking about is fairly safe compared to some of the shit that i.v. addicts I have known have tried. I understand that some of the people who posted had the best intentions in mind, but that doesn't constitute an informative or enlightening post. My best friend shot speed for about a year before he kicked. What do you think that has in it. People shoot pill filler, questionable water, small amounts of fruit juice, and all manner of nasty cutting agents and by-products of shitty precursors every day. Some with more success than others. I am not looking at this as part of my daily routine. I am not into recreational drugs (besides herb and the occasional beer) I am an extremely experienced psychonaut, I am in very good physical health, and I feel like I will more than likely be okay if I do this. I still don't feel like I have gotten any real answers yet.


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    #7639480 - 11/15/07 12:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

^Have you been paying any attention? Hell, read the link I sent you. Theres first hand accounts there if you absolutely refuse to believe that I am reliable.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: Ness1]
    #7639513 - 11/15/07 12:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I go rock climbing, mountain biking, snowboarding, hiking, or snowshoeing for fun. I eat LSD for self exploration and for that off chance that I might see past myself for just a split second in time. I am not calling you a douche or telling you to get a fucking life. If you don't like me leave me alone. Ness I didn't see your link. Don't be so quick to judge.


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    #7639531 - 11/15/07 12:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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^Have you been paying any attention? Hell, read the link I sent you. Theres first hand accounts there if you absolutely refuse to believe that I am reliable.




So we are looking at one guy who was apparently abusing it and another guy who did it once for bragging rights. I know that LSD seems to build a faster tolerance than any other psychedelic that I've used. So I don't know how much stock to put in that entry. The other guy only let it sit in solution for 10 min. If I were making pretty much any extract with pretty much any solvent I would give it more time than that.


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    #7639533 - 11/15/07 12:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

^People are being hostile to you, because everyone is telling you that you won't gain anything from IVing but you're completely discounting everything everyone is saying because it isn't a first hand account. First hand accounts aren't the only way to know something.


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    #7639536 - 11/15/07 12:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Any thoughts or suggestions?





"I still don't feel like I have gotten any real answers yet. "


i think the problem is that no one knows what your looking for, you asked for poeple to give you thoughts and suggestions, and everyone offered thoughts and suggestions, and advice and links, and you acted like they shouldnt have wasted their time because you already know so much more than us, if all you wanted was first hand reports you should have said it in the original post, and i wouldnt have wasted my time


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: boomer q]
    #7639579 - 11/15/07 12:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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mr_minds_eye said:
Any thoughts or suggestions?





"I still don't feel like I have gotten any real answers yet. "


i think the problem is that no one knows what your looking for, you asked for poeple to give you thoughts and suggestions, and everyone offered thoughts and suggestions, and advice and links, and you acted like they shouldnt have wasted their time because you already know so much more than us, if all you wanted was first hand reports you should have said it in the original post, and i wouldnt have wasted my time




After the first wave of posts I did. I just remember a time when I would have gotten better responses than "I don't think that sounds like a good idea". I'm not saying I know more than you, but your post didn't tell me anything new. It was interesting to hear that most reports seem to suggest no increase in intensity. However I'd still like to hear from some one I feel is reliable who has first hand experience. Why is that so wrong? Isn't that what The Shroomery is about? It used to be if its not any more. I'm sorry you feel like I slighted you somehow.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7639622 - 11/15/07 12:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

okay kid look, why dont you shoot your negligible 200 mic dose, and like i said at first, why dont ya tell us how it goes


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    #7639631 - 11/15/07 12:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Isn't it possible that everyone here is reliable, and that you want us to tell you how to do something we know isn't worth the time/risk?

This is what the Shroomery is about; helping others make informed decisions about what they put in their bodies.

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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: Jeebies]
    #7639719 - 11/15/07 01:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Isn't it possible that everyone here is reliable, and that you want us to tell you how to do something we know isn't worth the time/risk?

This is what the Shroomery is about; helping others make informed decisions about what they put in their bodies.

consider yourself informed.




Okay maybe you are right. If this is true though why doesn't the other guy recognise that anything under 500 mics is genenerally considered recreational. Just because most people dose low doesn't make it any sort of golden rule. most people want something to help them have a good time. I am not. Most people will tell you for an example to be care full and not do too much ketamine because you will go into a k hole. I like the effects of 200-250mg of K. You wake up disembodied in an alien plane and then wake up from it only to realise that it was a sort of dream (am I a man dreaming I am a butterfly or a butterfly dreaming I am a man) I recognised that there is an amount of inherent risk in what I'm discussing. You said your two cents worth I appreciate your time and information. This however doesn't change the fact that no one with personal experience, which is what I'm looking for, has posted. I enjoyed reading your link, but that wasn't quite it either.


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    #7639742 - 11/15/07 01:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I've never had an acid trip I didn't consider recreational, including the ones that blew my mind. We'll see how high dose goes next time I trip.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: Ness1]
    #7639764 - 11/15/07 01:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Good luck. If you do decide to mix it up a bit for a higher intensity trip fungus has in my experience had the best synergy. Try not smoking any herb and spend your time alone. This will make for a more lucid experience which you can pay more attention to. I really enjoyed talking to you. I have to got work now so have a good day.


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    #7639840 - 11/15/07 01:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

how much lsd would it take to kill someone?


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: milkman]
    #7639863 - 11/15/07 01:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

To actually die from LSD toxicity, a hell of a lot. More then most people could ever get their hands on.

But you could die from being a moron and doing something stupid on even a light dose.


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    #7639972 - 11/15/07 02:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Are you really going to flame me because I feel like it is more worthwhile to dose higher than you do? Take your own advise.




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    #7640024 - 11/15/07 02:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I know chinacat on here once shot up acid and if I remember correctly, he didn't really like it.

It hit him immediately and didn't give him anytime to let the trip sink in. Chinacat has done thumbprints, so I think he knows what he's talking about.


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    #7640060 - 11/15/07 02:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I have been monitoring this closely and i will tell you that the end of this discussion is this.

#1 you have already come to grips with the obvious risks so thats not an issue

#2 The ammount of LSD that you are talking about is around 200ug. SO the effects will be that of a 200ug dose no mater what the method of delivery.

#3 the come up will be marginally shorter as the delivery will be quicker.

#4 you will NOT have an experience that is abnormal or more intense compared to standard sub lingual delivery.

#5 there realy is no more to say. all the information and scientific facts have been considered.

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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: Slimz]
    #7640237 - 11/15/07 03:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i want him to, i was interested to see how it turned out from the beginning, i wanna see how long he leaves the blotter to soak in the water before injecting, and i wanna see how fast it hits, if its instant like chinacat experienced or if it stil takes a while.. and whether or not he thinks all of the LSD gets absorbed into the water or not

im not sure how itl turn out, considering that he thinks this dose is worthless anyway... he should just buy some more acid


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: boomer q]
    #7642095 - 11/15/07 09:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I don't have first hand experience so this may not be what you're looking for but from people I know who have tried it the come up is not significantly faster and the effects are about the same as sublingual administration.

This would make sense as the bioavailibility for LSD is upwards of 90% sublingually (so I have heard) and most of the LSD should be absorbed this way within a few minutes. Unlike a lot of drugs that are frequently IV'd (opiates for example), there is no "rush" with IV LSD, only a slightly faster onset, and because of the high sublingual bioavailibility, overall effects will not be increased that much either.

That being said, if you are comfortable with what you are planning on, by all means go for it. As you said earlier, in comparison to most things you could IV, LSD is about as safe as you're going to get. If you wanted to be really anal about bacteria and whatnot you could use a micron filter but honestly it shouldn't be an issue.

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    #7642117 - 11/15/07 10:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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wtf "Anything under 500 mics is a waste of time" get a fucking life




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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7642156 - 11/15/07 10:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I've taken 500 mics. I'm probably going to try 1000-1200 someday, when I get a good, consistent source and the perfect time/place.

I've found LSD is less about the size of your dose and more where you choose to take the trip. If you have the discipline, you can go pretty damn far on 200 mics.


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    #7642201 - 11/15/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Didn't Aldous Huxley have his wife administer IV LSD to him the day he died (Same day as Kennedy assassination?)?


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    #7642266 - 11/15/07 10:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, probably for the rapid come-up. It would be a total bummer if he ate a blotter and then died before it took effect.

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    #7643611 - 11/16/07 10:38 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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mr_minds_eye said:
Are you really going to flame me because I feel like it is more worthwhile to dose higher than you do? Take your own advise.




I won't flame you for that but I will flame you for being a lying faggot.  :tongue2:




Thats right I love the cock. Anyways I don't think it is worth it since I don't particularly like needles and no one seems to have any experiences that would justify it. I will just dose a little higher and throw a little something else in the mix. I don't see why experimentation is so looked down upon here though.

What exactly am I lying about? What evidence do you have to back it up? If you haven't done it, it must not be real?

I'm not saying that you can't get some personal insight from lower doses. You can definitely tune in to things that you might not have been able to otherwise. However psychedelics are taken at recreational doses because most people are not mentally hardwired to take the experience. I get a lot of good out of it though. I eat as well as I do, don't smoke, listen to many more types of music, am as open minded about food as I am, and really EXPERIENCE nature as being alive because of psychedelics. LSD in particular. They make me feel more in tune with my body and help clean out all of that negative energy. I have had a really tough last couple of years and need something powerful to straighten my head out. This stuff is a significant part of my spiritual practice. To me, these substances really are sacraments. I cringe every time I hear some one say how "fucked up" they got on some acid. I don't know if the name is in use where you live but people call mushrooms "boomers" here. Such a stupid name for such a special thing. Anyways if you think I was being rude I'm sorry. I just wanted more info and I felt like I was mostly just getting static. I do appreciate the posts those of you made which were informational. Thanks for the bluelight links. I've got a trash bag full of caapi and about 150 mg of DMT so I think I'll just dose at the end of that. Fasting and meditation can definitely add a lot to the experience but nothing replaces a full on authentic level 5 experience. I'm not going to be able to partake until early next month. On a side note I can't fucking wait to trade my schoolbooks for my snowboard. I hope God sends us some snow this year.


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    #7643633 - 11/16/07 10:45 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

^Out of curiosity have you tried ibogaine? For some reason, it jumps out at me as a very spiritual psychedelic. Or at least potentially so.


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    #7643643 - 11/16/07 10:47 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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    #7643674 - 11/16/07 10:56 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I would absolutely love to but no. I think that the duration would make it a more integratable experience. Some of the best trips I have ever had have actually been on DXM. I think that it worked well for me because of the duration. Fucking Olney's Lesions though right? I am sure I would prefer Ibogaine. I've seen different companies offer seeds from time to time. Do you know anyone who has successfully grown it? V. africana doesn't seem to be much of a substitute. I have to admit that I haven't tried it though. Do you have anything to say about that?


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    #7643691 - 11/16/07 11:00 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I haven't had the pleasure either, though I hope to some day. I'm sure we'll both find a way some day.


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    #7643697 - 11/16/07 11:02 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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If you have a problem with needles keep it to yourself. I understand that what I am suggesting is shooting what is essentially a street drug. I am okay with that. I am not looking for a bunch of kids who don't understand where I am coming from to tell me that they don't think that this is a good idea. I came here looking for real information about something that I am going to attempt. Look Siberian shaman can get over themselves enough to drink urine for a sacred experience. I've done this. Native people in the amazon will have huge amounts of powdered organic material blow-gunned into their nose for the same. I have also done this about a dozen times. All I am saying is that a pin prick ain't shit. I have a sterile 3cc iv rig and a hit and a half of some strong clean blotter. I am going to go all the way. I am also looking for any helpful tips or info.





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Anyways I don't think it is worth it since I don't particularly like needles and no one seems to have any experiences that would justify it.




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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: boomer q]
    #7643724 - 11/16/07 11:10 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If the experience warranted the means then I would go for it. I'm not trying to stick myself for fun.

You know you never said anything useful and only seem to be negative. I don't know what you are trying to compensate for by ragging on me but keep it to yourself. You are a very close minded person to be frequenting a community set up for the discussion of mind expanding substances which are generally thought to make a person more open minded. Go away. Also Rasta is all about tolerance and respecting other people you should really take that Bob Marley picture down. The colors of the Ethiopian flag and the ideals of Rasta are more than just symbols to sell t-shirts to pot heads.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: 2859558484]
    #7643894 - 11/16/07 12:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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wowitch17 said:
wtf "Anything under 500 mics is a waste of time" get a fucking life




totally immature.

i understand his point. either have a psychedelic experience or don't; don't hang out in this limbo of semi-connection to soberierty/reality.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7644095 - 11/16/07 12:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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mr_minds_eye said:

You know you never said anything useful and only seem to be negative.





i told you what everyone else told you, that its a bad idea and you would probably have a better time just eating the blotter, if anything and that i wanted to see your results, at which point you called me a kid and went on to rant about how 500 mics is a waste of time, and low and behold, you came to the same conclusion as me and everyone else about your idea, so how useful are you expecting me to be?

if you dont want people to be negative towards you, then done talk down to people, so why dont you chill the fuck out about teaching tolerance, and next time think about how dumb you sound to other people before you get all holier than thou about how great you are at psychedelic experiences and dosage


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