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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: 2859558484]
    #7639346 - 11/15/07 11:39 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I highly doubt if acid is so tough to find for you, meaning you don't do it often, that 500ug would be a waste of time lol. I would like to see you eat 500 mics and then tell me its not doing anything for you hahaha.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: opensaysme]
    #7639359 - 11/15/07 11:41 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

sorry for the flame, that was harsh. but i disagree with you! 3-400 micrograms is intense as hell for me man. and most other people on this planet.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7639364 - 11/15/07 11:41 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I've had a good time on 200mic. not earth shattering but it made for a great bonding experiance with my friends


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7639366 - 11/15/07 11:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

well, for most of the world 200 ug is a decent dose, not too many folks are looking for a 3000 ug dose, and ive never heard of anyone saying that anything under 500 ug is a waste of time, so why dont you just slow your fuckin role you little bitch, just cause you have different standards than the rest of the world on what a good dose is doesnt mean you can get snippy with me, have fun wasting your time sticking a needle in your arm for nothin


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: ThePeruvianTorch]
    #7639368 - 11/15/07 11:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Dude, the saturation point with LSD is between 500 and 1,000 mics. 3,000 mics is a waste.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: 2859558484]
    #7639372 - 11/15/07 11:43 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If you honestly need to dose that heavily, then just go mushroom picking and eat all the good ones you find until you can no longer even see the mushrooms past all the visuals exploding in front of your eyes, ya cunt


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: Ness1]
    #7639380 - 11/15/07 11:44 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Dude, the saturation point with LSD is between 500 and 1,000 mics. 3,000 mics is a waste.




I see you visit Erowid as well ha.
This figure is somewhat bullshit because anyone who has done large doses will tell you that the intensity DOES increase after 1000mics, but at a much slower clip. The duration of the trip will also increase vastly.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: 2859558484]
    #7639382 - 11/15/07 11:45 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I believe that you've eaten 3 mg of liquid, but I do not believe that it was even close to pure LSD. 150-200mcg IS a psychedelic dose. It may not be as strong as most people like, but that's why we eat more than one hit most of the time. The doses that Owsley made in San Francisco in the mid 1960's were exactly 250mcg, and they are legendary.

If you only like to take huge doses of acid, and don't have a reliable source, or money for that many doses, then I feel sorry for you.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: opensaysme]
    #7639395 - 11/15/07 11:47 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Ness1 said:
Dude, the saturation point with LSD is between 500 and 1,000 mics. 3,000 mics is a waste.




I see you visit Erowid as well ha.
This figure is somewhat bullshit because anyone who has done large doses will tell you that the intensity DOES increase after 1000mics, but at a much slower clip. The duration of the trip will also increase vastly.




That figure is also derived from talking to lots of people. Many experienced psychonauts I've talked to has said that the difference between 1mg and 2mg is essentially negligible. There IS a difference, but hardly enough to warrant wasting a milligram of LSD.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: Jeebies]
    #7639401 - 11/15/07 11:48 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I.M is better :laugh:

Fuck that though..

I.V DMT or psilocybin would blatantly be better :grin:


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: badchad]
    #7639404 - 11/15/07 11:49 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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In one of the only documented, scientific, and published reports of IV LSD administration, peak effecs occurred about 30 min after administration.

Other than that, open a pharmacology textbook, and read the section on "routes of administration". A substance can be absorbed across the lining of the mouth in minutes (think of chewing tobacco). An IV push enters the bloodstream in seconds. So the difference of introducing a substance into the blood would be on the order of minutes, and not significant.




I am vary familiar with sublingual administration. I think that there is room for some to be lost or maybe absorbed in the g.i. tract. Not that the small loss wouldn't happen in the process of getting it into the rig and injecting it. Look I'm not trying to argue with anyone I am just trying to see if I can get some sort of first hand account. So please do not post if your input doesn't fit this criteria as it has no relevance. I really don't understand why I am getting so much resistance in wanting to try something different. I'm not asking for dosage info of a tropane. I didn't come in and say "can I get fucked up on acid by slamming it" or some stupid shit like that. Back in the day injecting mescaline or DMT wasn't seen as being wrong. I think that this might be worthwhile. If you don't agree with me that is great but keep it to yourself unless you have first-hand solid evidence to back it up. Thanks


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7639422 - 11/15/07 11:54 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7639424 - 11/15/07 11:55 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

don't do it dude......just eat he freakin things. :goodluck:


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7639429 - 11/15/07 11:56 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

im guessing it you would start to feel it very quickly but still have the same 30 min long comeup to the peak/platuea.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7639432 - 11/15/07 11:56 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Man, with all due respect, I think that a lot of these people were trying to help. I don't think I need first hand experience to know that a lot of the acid floating around the black market is bad. Not to mention the bacteria that will be present on the blotter and in the syringe, which could potentially cause serious harm to you.

Also, in the sixties and early seventies, injecting acid was common, but only because almost pharm. grade LSD was in circulation. Some of it was CIA acid, and some was Sandoz. Besides those two major players, a lot of smaller players were also manufacturing pure LSD that could be injected.

I'm just saying, if you don't know the guy that manufactured the LSD, then you're taking a huge risk that doesn't come close to justifying
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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: Jeebies]
    #7639453 - 11/15/07 12:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

^I think the OP is just angry/disappointed that 200ug LSD IV isn't going to be 3,000ug sublingual and is looking for some sort of validation to try this.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: Jeebies]
    #7639474 - 11/15/07 12:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yea, i was just givin him an opinion and i get called a kid cause i think that having a 2-500 mic acid trip is fun, what a douche

if all you have is 200 mics its not gonna do too much even IV if you think that even double that dose is a complete waste of time...i dont understand what your trying to get out of this


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: Jeebies]
    #7639475 - 11/15/07 12:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I understand where you are coming from, but at the same time please understand that what I am talking about is fairly safe compared to some of the shit that i.v. addicts I have known have tried. I understand that some of the people who posted had the best intentions in mind, but that doesn't constitute an informative or enlightening post. My best friend shot speed for about a year before he kicked. What do you think that has in it. People shoot pill filler, questionable water, small amounts of fruit juice, and all manner of nasty cutting agents and by-products of shitty precursors every day. Some with more success than others. I am not looking at this as part of my daily routine. I am not into recreational drugs (besides herb and the occasional beer) I am an extremely experienced psychonaut, I am in very good physical health, and I feel like I will more than likely be okay if I do this. I still don't feel like I have gotten any real answers yet.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7639480 - 11/15/07 12:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

^Have you been paying any attention? Hell, read the link I sent you. Theres first hand accounts there if you absolutely refuse to believe that I am reliable.


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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: Ness1]
    #7639513 - 11/15/07 12:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I go rock climbing, mountain biking, snowboarding, hiking, or snowshoeing for fun. I eat LSD for self exploration and for that off chance that I might see past myself for just a split second in time. I am not calling you a douche or telling you to get a fucking life. If you don't like me leave me alone. Ness I didn't see your link. Don't be so quick to judge.


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