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mr_minds_eye
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I.V. injection of LSD
#7639077 - 11/15/07 10:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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So these days if you find any it is very very expensive, far too much for a full on psychedelic experience anyways. So I am going try iv administration. Since it is a very water soluable compound I was thinking that just letting it soak in a cc or so of water in a cool dark place for a good while would do the trick. Any thoughts or suggestions?
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badchad
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Since it is absorbed through the lining of the mouth, I wouldn't bother.
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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: badchad]
#7639133 - 11/15/07 11:01 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sounds like finding a new source would go farther
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Even if you use sterile saline solution in a sterile container with clean needles, you don't know WHAT the drug actually is, if it's even real LSD nor do you know how clean it is, nor do you know what germs are on the blotter that will go through the IV. Even if you managed to do it sterile, you risk contaminating your saline during the soak and shooting yourself up with bacterialized LSD\DOM saline. Gross!
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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: badchad]
#7639137 - 11/15/07 11:02 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Acid isn't really hard to find or that expensive..... i'm very interested in what the IV experience would be like; onset time, duration, intensity. if anyone on here has tried it i'd love to hear about it. Crystal G maybe? lol
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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: opensaysme]
#7639199 - 11/15/07 11:13 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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IV LSD doesn't make the experience any more intense. I've talked to several people who have tried it. When you take acid you have to wait for an hour or so for the come up to start. IV basically skips that hour wait and you start to come up immediately. Other than that, theres no benefit.
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Really? Only in the lining of your mouth? Tell that to the guy who shot 320mg thinking it was speed and croaked. Look I am not trying to have a good time with my friends. I am not trying to get "fucked up". If you have a problem with needles keep it to yourself. I understand that what I am suggesting is shooting what is essentially a street drug. I am okay with that. I am not looking for a bunch of kids who don't understand where I am coming from to tell me that they don't think that this is a good idea. I came here looking for real information about something that I am going to attempt. Look Siberian shaman can get over themselves enough to drink urine for a sacred experience. I've done this. Native people in the amazon will have huge amounts of powdered organic material blow-gunned into their nose for the same. I have also done this about a dozen times. All I am saying is that a pin prick ain't shit. I have a sterile 3cc iv rig and a hit and a half of some strong clean blotter. I am going to go all the way. I am also looking for any helpful tips or info.
-------------------- Our quest for discovery fuels our creativity in all fields, not just science. If we reached the end of the line, the human spirit would shrivel and die. But I don't think we will ever stand still: we shall increase in complexity, if not in depth, and shall always be the center on an expanding horizon of possibilities. -Stephen Hawking
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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: Ness1]
#7639232 - 11/15/07 11:19 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do you think that maybe they just didn't give enough time for the LSD to transfer into solution and that the incomplete dosing coupled with the iv administration made it seem like they were dosing at the same level?
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Why shoot it up, I enjoyed the "slow" come up of lsd... was pretty cool to have it creep up
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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: andrewss]
#7639245 - 11/15/07 11:21 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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It isn't about the onset.
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ive heard different things about i.v. lsd.... some say little difference in onset others say quick peak that you would expect. ive also heard snorting microdots doesnt make it hit much quicker.
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so you already have a hit and a half of strong clean blotter, so it doesnt really seem to have anything to do with you not having enough, you just have a jonesin to shoot up LSD.. youll get a better experience just eatin the blotter, imo, let us know how it goes
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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: 2859558484]
#7639264 - 11/15/07 11:24 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've never even seen a microdot in person. Do people still get these in the US?
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Ness1
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Like I said, I've talked to several people. Same story from all of them, quicker onset and that's it.
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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: opensaysme]
#7639274 - 11/15/07 11:25 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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microdots will awlays be around man.
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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: 2859558484]
#7639300 - 11/15/07 11:30 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well i realize that they can always be made, what i'm saying is it must only run in really specific circles. I've been to a lot of shows and a couple festivals and i have never even seen one, i also have friends that are big into the acid scene and they've never seen one. Bought from many different sources and seen liquid, gels, and blotter but no one i've even gotten from has even seen/used a microdot. An older guy i know who used to be big into psychedelics back in the day talks about how he used to get great microdots, thats all i've even heard.
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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: boomer q]
#7639316 - 11/15/07 11:34 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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boomer q said: so you already have a hit and a half of strong clean blotter, so it doesnt really seem to have anything to do with you not having enough, you just have a jonesin to shoot up LSD.. youll get a better experience just eatin the blotter, imo, let us know how it goes
Okay look kid I have what is about 150 MAYBE 200 micrograms of acid. THAT IS NOT A PSYCHEDELIC DOSE. The best experience I've ever had was with about 3mg of silver liquid. That would be 3,000 micrograms. Do you see the difference? Anything under 500 mics is a waste of time I can not afford that at $8-10 a hit with no price break. So far all I've gotten is second hand hear-say. I'd really like to get a response from some one with first hand info. Also microdots aren't inherently anything special. I've had some that were better than some blotter or liquid. It varies though batch to batch with any of it. Form doesn't always define function.
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2859558484
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wtf "Anything under 500 mics is a waste of time" get a fucking life
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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: opensaysme]
#7639338 - 11/15/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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In one of the only documented, scientific, and published reports of IV LSD administration, peak effecs occurred about 30 min after administration.
Other than that, open a pharmacology textbook, and read the section on "routes of administration". A substance can be absorbed across the lining of the mouth in minutes (think of chewing tobacco). An IV push enters the bloodstream in seconds. So the difference of introducing a substance into the blood would be on the order of minutes, and not significant.
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Re: I.V. injection of LSD [Re: 2859558484]
#7639343 - 11/15/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Are you really going to flame me because I feel like it is more worthwhile to dose higher than you do? Take your own advise.
-------------------- Our quest for discovery fuels our creativity in all fields, not just science. If we reached the end of the line, the human spirit would shrivel and die. But I don't think we will ever stand still: we shall increase in complexity, if not in depth, and shall always be the center on an expanding horizon of possibilities. -Stephen Hawking
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