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Alan Rockefeller
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ID request
#7637777 - 11/14/07 11:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Habitat: In a lawn near some pine trees. Gills: White to cream color, staining brown in age. Stem: 1 - 2 cm, brown, fibrous. Cap: Reddish brown to leather brown, dry, not hygrophanous. Spore print color: white. Bruising: None Location: California Smell: mild Taste: farinaceous
The last two shots are a gill edge under 1000x, one has methylene blue stain. Many spores can be seen in both shots, they are small, smooth and round.





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Looks like Tricholoma batschii. I've found them in the East Bay under pine. Are these photos from this weekend??
Could also be T. pessundatum(= T. muricatum), which does actually have a stonger scent, but does not have the dark annular ring on the lower part of the stipe.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: ID request [Re: CureCat]
#7637966 - 11/15/07 12:17 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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> Looks like Tricholoma batschii. I've found them in the East Bay under pine. Are these photos from this weekend??
The photos are from today. T. batschii looks like a good id. It also looks like T. fracticum.
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T. batschii is the current nomenclature for the synonym T. fracticum . http://indexfungorum.org/Names/SynSpecies.asp?RecordID=324913
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Re: ID request [Re: CureCat]
#7638133 - 11/15/07 01:28 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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nice , i was thinking tricholoma , but then i see cc has take over, well done ,  i never get to see those speciemn around here.
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  cuando una rafaga del pensamiento nos pasa al lado se puede sentir que valio la pena haber vivido, y cuando ese pensamiento se convierte en sueño no paramos de soñar hasta realizarlo
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said: I meant this T. fracticum:
http://indexfungorum.org/Names/NamesRecord.asp?RecordID=105838
I think that the Tricholoma you linked to on Mykoweb is now T. batschii.
The link above appears to be one of those pages that is not complete or up to date, but seems to suggest that that T. fracticum is now Agaricus fracticus.
I could be wrong, but that is my interpretation of the text.
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Re: ID request [Re: CureCat]
#7639339 - 11/15/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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> I could be wrong, but that is my interpretation of the text.
I think you got it right, both entries have the same basonym.
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Alan Rockefeller
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> I could be wrong, but that is my interpretation of the text.
Nathan Wilson interprets it a different way:
http://mushroomobserver.org/4931
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That is also a fair assumption.
However, I'm not sure how to interpret the results of searches such as "Clitocybe nuda":
Pages: 1 of 1 records. Clitocybe nuda (Fr.) H.E. Bigelow & A.H. Sm. (1969); Tricholomataceae
Record Details:
Clitocybe nuda (Fr.) H.E. Bigelow & A.H. Sm., Brittonia 21(1): 52 (1969)
Sanctioning author: Fr.
Basionym: Agaricus nudus Bull. 1790
Citations in published lists: Index of Fungi 3: 525; 4: 161. Page Image in Published List
Position in classification: Tricholomataceae, Agaricales, Agaricomycetidae, Agaricomycetes, Basidiomycota, Fungi
Index Fungorum LSID: urn:lsid:indexfungorum.org:names:282967;
http://indexfungorum.org/Names/NamesRecord.asp?RecordID=282967
That is just a random example. So, based on Nathans interpretation, there exists two distinct species- Lepista nuda and Clitocybe nuda, right?? I could be over looking something... But if that confuses you as it does me, you might mind asking him to explain.
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