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    #7637777 - 11/14/07 11:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Habitat: In a lawn near some pine trees.
Gills: White to cream color, staining brown in age.
Stem: 1 - 2 cm, brown, fibrous.
Cap: Reddish brown to leather brown, dry, not hygrophanous.
Spore print color: white.
Bruising: None
Location: California
Smell: mild
Taste: farinaceous

The last two shots are a gill edge under 1000x, one has methylene blue stain. Many spores can be seen in both shots, they are small, smooth and round.













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Re: ID request [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7637781 - 11/14/07 11:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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    #7637814 - 11/14/07 11:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Looks like Tricholoma batschii. I've found them in the East Bay under pine. Are these photos from this weekend??

Could also be T. pessundatum(= T. muricatum), which does actually have a stonger scent, but does not have the dark annular ring on the lower part of the stipe.


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    #7637966 - 11/15/07 12:17 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

> Looks like Tricholoma batschii. I've found them in the East Bay under pine. Are these photos from this weekend??

The photos are from today. T. batschii looks like a good id. It also looks like T. fracticum.


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    #7637984 - 11/15/07 12:23 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

T. batschii is the current nomenclature for the synonym T. fracticum .
http://indexfungorum.org/Names/SynSpecies.asp?RecordID=324913


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    #7638133 - 11/15/07 01:28 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: ID request [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7638857 - 11/15/07 10:04 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

nice , i was thinking tricholoma , but then i see cc has take over, well done , :thumbup:
i never get to see those speciemn around here. :smile:


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cuando una rafaga del pensamiento nos pasa  al lado se puede sentir  que valio  la pena  haber vivido, y cuando ese pensamiento se  convierte en sueño no paramos de soñar hasta realizarlo


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Re: ID request [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7639182 - 11/15/07 11:09 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Alan Rockefeller said:
I meant this T. fracticum:

http://indexfungorum.org/Names/NamesRecord.asp?RecordID=105838



I think that the Tricholoma you linked to on Mykoweb is now T. batschii.

The link above appears to be one of those pages that is not complete or up to date, but seems to suggest that that T. fracticum is now Agaricus fracticus.

I could be wrong, but that is my interpretation of the text.  :ohwell:


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    #7639339 - 11/15/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

> I could be wrong, but that is my interpretation of the text. :ohwell:

I think you got it right, both entries have the same basonym.


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    #7642657 - 11/16/07 12:51 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

> I could be wrong, but that is my interpretation of the text. :ohwell:

Nathan Wilson interprets it a different way:

http://mushroomobserver.org/4931


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    #7642701 - 11/16/07 01:14 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

That is also a fair assumption. 

However, I'm not sure how to interpret the results of searches such as "Clitocybe nuda":

Pages: 1 of 1 records.
Clitocybe nuda (Fr.) H.E. Bigelow & A.H. Sm. (1969); Tricholomataceae


Record Details:

Clitocybe nuda (Fr.) H.E. Bigelow & A.H. Sm., Brittonia 21(1): 52 (1969)

Sanctioning author:
Fr.

Basionym:
Agaricus nudus Bull. 1790

Citations in published lists:
Index of Fungi 3: 525; 4: 161. Page Image in Published List

Position in classification:
Tricholomataceae, Agaricales, Agaricomycetidae, Agaricomycetes, Basidiomycota, Fungi

Index Fungorum LSID: urn:lsid:indexfungorum.org:names:282967;


http://indexfungorum.org/Names/NamesRecord.asp?RecordID=282967

That is just a random example.
So, based on Nathans interpretation, there exists two distinct species- Lepista nuda and Clitocybe nuda, right??
I could be over looking something... But if that confuses you as it does me, you might mind asking him to explain.  :confused:


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